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I like the looks of it. It might not do much of anything but it does look cool. Good job.
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Mainly to keep other people from making the same mistakes!!!
Let those other people make those mistakes. What does it matter to you if somebody wants to do that to thier truck? As long as it doesnt effect you what does it matter?
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Wait till summer time, or take a trip to Florida......

There is a good reason the intake OEM (or K&N) tube isn't metal!!!!

Just another example of how to screw something up......and the funny part, the OEM intake & filter isn't what limits the
amount of air flow into the engine!!!!

So, you basically have a HAI and noise maker!!!!
Exactly, nice work on the intake, but a little research on here would have shown you that your Hot air intake is going to be a big power loser come spring/summer.
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Let those other people make those mistakes. What does it matter to you if somebody wants to do that to thier truck? As long as it doesnt effect you what does it matter?

Unlike you, I try to help people on these forums, so I do care!!!
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WOW must have had a visit from aunt flow...

There wont be a whole lot of improvment, but it is his truck, you dont have to be a d-bag about it. You made your point, now everyone can read it, and now is the time you stop.
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I can only add this...I work at local speed shop...we tune a few cars...I use to do some work out west...Cars run alot different in different parts of the country. What doesnt work in one place, may not effect another ride in another part of the country the same way. Another thing I have noticed over the years is this...It is hard to get two people to think exactly the same way. If everybody just agreed with me all the time I figure I would be alot happier...But it just doesnt happen...The bottom line is this...He is probably goin to be okay with the mod he did...right? He probably isnt goin to drive to florida in his ride....Some people just wanna argue for the sake of arguing...Not everyone is going to think exactly like you do....Its just all Im sayin..
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Exactly, nice work on the intake, but a little research on here would have shown you that your Hot air intake is going to be a big power loser come spring/summer.
Look where he is from. Manitoba, Winipeg to be exact. I think heat is the last thing to worry about. In the summer it MIGHT get up to 30C, not enough to worry about.
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Unlike you, I try to help people on these forums, so I do care!!!
OK i help people also. But the OP was kinda excited about his new mod and you totally just ruined it for him. All im saying is just let him have his moment. Dont ruin it for him.
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Takeda shut your damn trap! People like to mod their trucks! Its a fact of life, like Christian said, "Thy shalt not preach oem on a modding site."
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I can only add this...I work at local speed shop...we tune a few cars...I use to do some work out west...Cars run alot different in different parts of the country. What doesnt work in one place, may not effect another ride in another part of the country the same way. Another thing I have noticed over the years is this...It is hard to get two people to think exactly the same way. If everybody just agreed with me all the time I figure I would be alot happier...But it just doesnt happen...The bottom line is this...He is probably goin to be okay with the mod he did...right? He probably isnt goin to drive to florida in his ride....Some people just wanna argue for the sake of arguing...Not everyone is going to think exactly like you do....Its just all Im sayin..
yeah dude u just runied it for me :( and it is my truck! have u driven it no?? i drive it everyday to and from work and where i need to go.. the pipe stays ice cold!! and the truck picks up alot fast and has increased my low end torque! I have noticed all my friends have noticed! i think i win! lol
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sorry didnt answer to my thread sooner guys . just bin busy with work. and the g/f havent bin home much l8ley
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I can only add this...I work at local speed shop...we tune a few cars...I use to do some work out west...Cars run alot different in different parts of the country. What doesnt work in one place, may not effect another ride in another part of the country the same way. Another thing I have noticed over the years is this...It is hard to get two people to think exactly the same way. If everybody just agreed with me all the time I figure I would be alot happier...But it just doesnt happen...The bottom line is this...He is probably goin to be okay with the mod he did...right? He probably isnt goin to drive to florida in his ride....Some people just wanna argue for the sake of arguing...Not everyone is going to think exactly like you do....Its just all Im sayin..
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HI!... Don't bother arguing with BOB. He's right no matter what you say. He argues with everyone over at the RANGER-STATION. It's quite comical and a lot of people are sick of him. He thinks any modification other than stock is no good. Ya right.

Do whatever you want, it's your truck, you paid for it. You should get yourself a electric fan next. I did electric fan, custom CAI and under driven crank pulley and went from 15.8E.T to 14.67E.T, get better gas mileage, and my truck runs cooler. BOB will disagree but I have the timeslips lol!

C'mon BOB I know your going to respond, it's in your nature. You always have to have the last word. Sorry bud, you have NO "BOB's GOD" followers here........
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Its his boat man....If hes diggin it why try to rain on his parade???
hmm, actually telling the guy its nice and all is "raining on his parade" Telling him the truth about the negative impacts on his performance is helping. Im not sure about you, but I like to learn on here, not have my *** kissed for doing stupid **** to my truck
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Sounds like someone piSSed in Bob's cereal. He just flew off the handle and took it all as a personal attack.

Relax there bud. You shared your opinion, now heal.
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Nice mod man!! I wanted to throw on just a k&n cone filter on to the end of the stock air intake tube, but as I read it sucks in hot air, So if you figure out a way to build up a wall like the CAI's come with to guard from the engine heat, post it up and let me know!! I know it will do little to nothing for performance but I want that sound! I like being able to hear the gas Im burning, if that makes sense.
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hmm, actually telling the guy its nice and all is "raining on his parade" Telling him the truth about the negative impacts on his performance is helping. Im not sure about you, but I like to learn on here, not have my *** kissed for doing stupid **** to my truck
Get off the cross dude...we need the wood....I mean be serious.....Is that mod actually going to have "negative" affects on his truck......Jeez!! He wont even notice where he is..Try helping us instead of chitting on us!
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Looks aiight to me.
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thanks guys appreciate it :P i just like how it sounds and i can certainly feel a differnece in acceleration as well
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Get off the cross dude...we need the wood....I mean be serious.....Is that mod actually going to have "negative" affects on his truck......Jeez!! He wont even notice where he is..Try helping us instead of chitting on us!
not sure I understand the cross and wood comments there. anyway, having an intake like this does have a negative impact on performance because it makes the engine draw in hotter air than the stock intake. Hotter air is less dense which has a detrimental affect on performance and economy.

I had a KN 77 intake (the metal one) on my truck and took it out. My intake air temps went down 10 degrees. Not a huge difference, but definitely enough to prove that these types of intakes negatively impact performance. theyre simply not a cold air intake, rather a hot air intake.

is that helpful enough for you?
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not sure I understand the cross and wood comments there. anyway, having an intake like this does have a negative impact on performance because it makes the engine draw in hotter air than the stock intake. Hotter air is less dense which has a detrimental affect on performance and economy.

I had a KN 77 intake (the metal one) on my truck and took it out. My intake air temps went down 10 degrees. Not a huge difference, but definitely enough to prove that these types of intakes negatively impact performance. theyre simply not a cold air intake, rather a hot air intake.

is that helpful enough for you?
Not really...Remember...I tune cars.. The OP FOR SURE is not going to notice any BIG impact from this...Did U notice where he lives?? Manitoba......Look it up..I have a 2004 Mustang Mach 1 with a 125 shot of Nitrous. It has an ALUMINUM C&L intake with an open K&N filter. We have made about 50 pulls on the dyno with this car with different intakes, some stock, some plastic and the aluminum one. Heat soak was NOT an issue, unless u are planning on setting in traffic or it is 120 degrees outide. I dont think the OP is going to see either of those. Even if he did have this so called HEAT SOAK, on his truck he is not going to lose some HUGE HP numbers. With the mustang on the dyno the numbers with the same setup after several pulls only yeilded a slight decrease if any from heat soak. This was on a 450 HP car, I mean seriously dude, what HP is he running, maybe 170 if hes lucky. The mod Looks cool, he spent alot of time working on it, I consider that to be Research and development. If all of just did exactly like you say, where the heck would we be? Congrats to him for spending the time and energy to try and learn something. Again, look at his location and his application, how MUCH is this really going to hurt him?
The wood and cross.......we dont need a savior to try and save us all from so called modding mistakes, especially the ones that really arent a big deal). At the very least, some of the people that Know it all should maybe add this to there friggin comments "In my opinion or in my experience this is what happened...." If the dude sees something negative from this(which I seriously DOUBT) he would think about our comments and put it back. Just because this happened to you or you THINK it will happen to him does not warrant a remark like u made.

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The problem with Rangers is that the ECU pulls timing at just 80 degrees intake temp. Ask Rich (wydopnthrtl). He tunes the stock ecu himself and has solved this problem.
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lol ya know i was really happy bout this intake cuz me and my buddy brett (92daytona) had many trial and errors on this vacuum leaks etc. we did a lot of research and finally got it the way we wanted.. it sounds better, looks cool. and i can certainly feel it under the pedal! so whats the problem
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The problem with Rangers is that the ECU pulls timing at just 80 degrees intake temp. Ask Rich (wydopnthrtl). He tunes the stock ecu himself and has solved this problem.
Note taken......We dont tune many rangers.......but my point was I dont think he is going to notice much of a loss with this application...
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Not really...Remember...I tune cars.. The OP FOR SURE is not going to notice any BIG impact from this...Did U notice where he lives?? Manitoba......Look it up..I have a 2004 Mustang Mach 1 with a 125 shot of Nitrous. It has an ALUMINUM C&L intake with an open K&N filter. We have made about 50 pulls on the dyno with this car with different intakes, some stock, some plastic and the aluminum one. Heat soak was NOT an issue, unless u are planning on setting in traffic or it is 120 degrees outide. I dont think the OP is going to see either of those. Even if he did have this so called HEAT SOAK, on his truck he is not going to lose some HUGE HP numbers. With the mustang on the dyno the numbers with the same setup after several pulls only yeilded a slight decrease if any from heat soak. This was on a 450 HP car, I mean seriously dude, what HP is he running with the 4 cylinder, maybe 170 if hes lucky. The mod Looks cool, he spent alot of time working on it, I consider that to be Reseacrh and development. If all of just did exactly like you say, where the heck would we be? Congrats to him for spending the time and energy to try and learn something. Again, look at his location and his application, how MUCH is this really going to hurt him?
The wood and cross.......we dont need a savior to try and save us all from so called modding mistakes. At the very least, some of the people that Know it all should maybe add this to there friigin comments "In my opinion or in my experience this is what happened...." If the dude sees something negative from this(which I seriously DOUBT) he would think about our comments and put it back. Just because this happened to you or you THINK it will happen to him does not warrant a remark like u made.
Post on a public forum, youre gonna get opinions. Dont like opinions, dont post. I honestly couldnt care less what you guys do to your trucks, but trying to tell everyone that a mod that does nothing for performance is actually a good thing to do makes no sense to me.

why not just install one of these:

http://www.turbowhistler.net/

after you put it in, post it in here and see what kind of response you'll get.
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