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Old 09-16-2013
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5.0 Ranger with a 4406 t case

So I finally did the 4406 manual t case swap, found out if you get the rear driveshaft off of a regular cab short bed F150 with the 4406 manual case that that shaft will fit our rangers? I never read this before anywhere but for giggles I tried it. Darn thing fits in there pretty well. I have stock suspension and it actually could be an inch shorter but I cycled my suspension and its not hitting or falling out. I am going to keep an eye on it but it was a nice surprise

I dont know if this is new info or just plain luck but it works
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I would say luck! So what the the exact config on the f150 and one the ranger? All that plays a role on how it fits.
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What I believe was a 98 F150 regular cab short bed 4.6 automatic with a manual 4406 t case. The ranger is a 5.0 4r70w automatic with the same 4406 t case. I know I had to get the front shaft from a 4.6 truck but didnt know the rear shaft was that close. I just nabbed it to have that slip yoke end put on my stock shaft when I got it shortened
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Also an after thought. If the front drive shaft off a 4.6 fits exactly that means the trans/tcase combo is the same length and also the 4.6 sits in the same place as a 5.0. If my thinking is correct this factory rear shaft should work all the time on super cab short bed rangers.
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sounds very accurate! this woudl be good info! I know when I swapped a zf5 in my OBS I had a terrible time with the rear shaft, had to have one custom made.
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my friend did this exact swap before I did mine, Had a custom rear shaft made. He did use a m5od trans but they are the same length as a 4r70w. Therefore no difference. I will say this if it turns out to be accurate then we just made this swap a whole lot easier. Bolt in to be exact minus the hole for the shifter
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Yeah I agree, nothing worse than almost completing the project and having to spend 200+ on a custom length shaft.
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although it would have been nice to have it cleaned up by the driveshaft shop. Lately anything I work on has to be cleaned before it goes back in, Even to the extent I yanked the t case to fix the t case to trans gasket and ended up polishing my t case up, No one will ever see it but I will know
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What I believe was a 98 F150 regular cab short bed 4.6 automatic with a manual 4406 t case. The ranger is a 5.0 4r70w automatic with the same 4406 t case. I know I had to get the front shaft from a 4.6 truck but didnt know the rear shaft was that close. I just nabbed it to have that slip yoke end put on my stock shaft when I got it shortened
So...If I drop a 5.0L and a 4R70w from a 96 explorer into my 96 ranger... I still have an 8.8 and a D35...

If I take a transfercase (4406) and front and back driveshafts from the 98(ish) f150 reg cab 4.6 auto short box...all that would bolt up? The driveshafts will bolt to the ranger axles??
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Old 09-30-2013
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I cant speak for you on the front shaft. Got to remember that 98+ trucks are fixed front ends so are the relatively the same

My exact setup is a 98 ranger 5.0 with explorer factory motor mounts, 4r70w transmission from an explorer. A 4406 manual t case from a 97-03 f150. The truck that the shaft came from was a regular cab short bed with a wheel base of 120". My truck has a wheel base of 125". Some how this works and doesnt hit anything under compression nor does it fall out under expansion
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Ah yes that is right. 97 and down has ttb dana 35, and 98 up has ifs dana 35 correct? Do they have different "connections"? If so is there a remedy? Conversion u-joint or something
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I think the TTB needs a longer shaft. I know to use the F150 shaft on the front of my IFS 35 I have to use a conversion joint
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Well hey that is good news about the rear driveshaft! Normally you would need a expensive custom one eh. I'll look around on the web and see if someone put a 4406 in a 96 ranger. Or (93-97) I guess
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thats probably going to be a tough one to find. I dont know a whole lot of guys running v8 rangers let alone with that setup. You might try the ranger station. They have a more solid group of 93-97 v8 guys

this place has a more solid group of 98+ v8 guys. funny how it works like that
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Yeah I have looked around on RangerStation...also...geez 97-03 reg cab short box 4x4 are RARE! I can't find anyone parting one out
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Yeah they are rare, I think I got stupidly lucky when I got mine. But its either track that down OR pay whatever you have to and have a shaft cut. Keep in mind you need a 150 rear shaft no matter what to get the slip yoke end off of it.

I wonder if a 1992-1996 reg cab short bed 4x4 150 would work? They use a 1356 slip yoke transfer case? They both came with an m5od transmission? maybe one off a 5 speed would work?
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Honestly. I don't know how slip yokes and what not works. I am kinda a driveshaft and diff NEWB.

I dunno about the 1992-1996...would they bolt up to the 4406?
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They would bolt in place of a 4406, I can take some measurements as ive got a 1356 sitting here and can be under my ranger and measure a 4406 easy enough
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Oh you mean just use a 1356 transfer case ... and those axles might bolt up?
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axles? what axles?
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Jeez not axles. I meant driveshafts. Were you implying that using a 1356 in a 93-97 Ranger ...and that the driveshafts from a 1992-1996 reg cab short bed 4x4 F150 would bolt up?
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I have no idea there, All I know as of right now is my setup works. Odds are it wont work but hey I was told this wouldnt work either
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Keep in mind you need a 150 rear shaft no matter what to get the slip yoke end off of it.
Can't you just use a rear shaft from a 5.4 expedition with a 4406? I have read in a few places that shaft was a direct bolt in on a supercab ranger? I am getting ready to put the 4406 in my ranger, but I don't wanna have to spend an arm and a leg to get the driveshafts going.
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I have never heard that before but it may be true? I know its true for an explorer?
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What is the exact mesurement of the driveshaft from weld to weld
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