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99-00 explorer 5.0 in 2003 Ranger Edge 2WD?

I have a 2003 Ranger Edge 3.0 5spd Reg cab,
I am very much considering doing a 5.0 Swap perhaps a manual tranny from a 4.2 F150..
I've read up a little on the swaps..
I'm just tryin to find out the differences in the wiring (mine being an 03)... Will i need a custom driveshaft? What clutch would i use for the 4.2 Tranny?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


I'm thinkin it would cost around 2500 for everything i need?

car-parts.com is where i've been looking for motors/ trannys/ ecu/ wiring harness
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The 97~03 M5ODR2 from the 4.2 has the correct pattern to bolt up to the 5.0 Ex. All it needs is the bellhousing holes bored out very slightly to accept the 7/16" bolts of the 5.0 instead of the metric bolts on the 4.2.

The 11" clutch, pressure plate and flywheel from a 96 F150 5.0 will bolt in. You'll also need the manual starter from the same 96 F150 - the Ex 5.0 auto part will not work. The 4.2 trans takes the same slave cylinder as the Ranger but this is one part that should be replaced whenever the clutch is apart. Since the slaves are the same, the clutch hydraulics are a direct fit. Chances are that It would need to have the driveshaft length modified (unless you get really lucky).

There are some wiring changes required using the 99~01 5.0 Explorer PCM in a 01~03 Ranger. Most significant are a different PATS system and a different VSS for the speedometer. Minor repinning also needed for the starter solenoid and tachometer. Some finessing of the starter/charging subharness required to get everything to bolt up/wire up.
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wow, i didn't think that that v6 trans would work for a v8. is it a strong enough of a trans? i don't kno much about it
how would he go about the PATS system to get it to work? i read in a mustang mag that someguy put a 4.6 cobra into a 84 convertible and had to use the igntion from a 97 mk VIII so that it would be compatible with the PATS system for back then (mag was in early y2ks)
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The M5ODR2 has been used in regular production behind 5.0 and 4.6 V8s as well as the 4.2 V6. The cases and shifters varied somewhat to match the application. The best match to the 5.0 bolt pattern and the Ranger shifter position is the version from the 97~03 V6 F150.

Installing the 99~01 Ex 5.0 and PCM in a 2001~2003 Ranger requires the Explorer's PATS module, tranceiver module, transponder keys plus the wiring to connect it together.

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hey thanks zing,

I'm gonna have to do an assload of more research, and some pretty good money saving. But I think this is going to be do-able. My buddy and I did 90 percent of a JDM b18C swap to a '00 Civic SI in my driveway. So, i think it can be done.
I just hate messing with wiring, I am def handicapped in that field. haha.

Any way to find out for sure about a driveshaft? Has anyone done this exact swap?

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Why isn’t there a garage we could drive in the V-6 truck and a V-8 mod’d truck ?????? LoL.

rwenzing, maybe you can start a swap location and do it for all use guys .
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Has someone actually done a 5.0 w/ M50DR2?
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It has been done a few times. I'm in the middle of the trans swap right now but other work being done on the truck will delay the final product.
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Awesome man. I'm browsing on Swapping An Explorer 5.0L In To A 1998-Up Ranger

Thanks a lot for the info.
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Awesome man. I'm browsing on Swapping An Explorer 5.0L In To A 1998-Up Ranger

Thanks a lot for the info.
That's a picture of my engine before I added the supercharger.
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That's a picture of my engine before I added the supercharger.
Thats what I read on there man. Thats Badass. haha. Bet you're about tired of retards like me of asking q's when all that info is already there.
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You can read about my V8 swap as I was doing it by clicking the link in my signature. Swapping an Explorer 5.0 into a 2003 2WD is similar.
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you can also read my thread... i think between me and Bob we have covered about every angel
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why would someone use this transmission over say a t5, t56, c6, aod, aode ( i kno it's huge but you can see where i'm going)
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The 97~03 M5ODR2 from the 4.2 has the correct pattern to bolt up to the 5.0 Ex. All it needs is the bellhousing holes bored out very slightly to accept the 7/16" bolts of the 5.0 instead of the metric bolts on the 4.2.
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plus it also uses a hydrolic clutch instead of a cable/fork
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plus it also uses a hydrolic clutch instead of a cable/fork
Internal or External Throwout Bearing ?
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The M5ODR2 uses the same internal slave/throwout as the M5ODR1/M5ODR1HD in the Ranger.
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is it stronger then the ones in the ranger?
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is it stronger then the ones in the ranger?
The M5ODR2 transmission is bigger and stronger than the R1 or R1HD in the Ranger. The slave cylinder is the same crappy part.
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Is there an after-market replacement that is stronger ?
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Not that I know about.
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would the m5odr2 mount up to the transfer case that comes in a ranger or would one from a 4.2 be needed? are they different or the same transfercase?
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The 4x4 M5ODR2 output shaft to the transfer case is 31-spline with a 6-bolt extension housing pattern. In the original 4.2L F150 app, the t-case is a BW4406 but most full size cases also use that 6-bolt same pattern.

The Ranger M5ODR1/M5ODR1HD uses a smaller diameter 25-spline output shaft and a 5-bolt pattern to joint the extension housing to the BW 1350/1354 t-case.

If you're so inclined, Advance Adapters makes a kit to join any full size, 6-bolt 4x4 extension housing w/ 31-spline output shaft to a 25-spline, 5-bolt Ranger T-case. AA lists this kit specifically for the BW1350 but, to the best of my knowledge, that should make it equally applicable to the BW1354.

The AA adapter pushes the transfer case back 4", so custom driveshaft lengths would be required. The full size BW4406 from the 4.2/4.6 F150 adds more than that - I had to chop a foot off of the rear shaft and use an F150 front shaft.

I chose the BW4406 because it is stronger and cheaper than using a Ranger 1354 plus the $500 AA kit. The downside to the 4406 is that its size makes it harder to package under a Ranger. Probably not even possible in a regular cab Ranger without extensive surgery.
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