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Is there any way that I can install my cam synchronizer back into my motor without the heads on?
I have bought the alignment tool, but it says put cyl 1 to TDC of the compression stroke.
Is there anyway to tell if the cylinder is on compression stroke without heads on the motor?
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put your finger over the spark plug hole n turn the engine over by hand, when you feel alot of pressure built up youll be on compression stroke. to make sure your at tdc look into the cylinger through the spark plug hole with a flash light and turn the engine over by hand till it just before the piston starts traviling back down
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The heads arent on, so i could just look at the top of the block to see if it is at TDC correct?
And spark plug holes are on heads. So that idea doesnt work.

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If you're talking both heads are off, you need to look at your lifters to see what position they're in. They will both be down on your compression stroke.
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The heads arent on, so i could just look at the top of the block to see if it is at TDC correct?
Exactly.
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All the lifters appear to be in sme position to me. Am I missing something? And thanks BTW
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Is the timing chain on right now, and have you turned the engine by hand?
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Push them all back down. Sometimes they stay in the up position.
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Yea timing chain is on, and i have turned the motor over multiple times. I'll try pushing them back down and then seeing what happens.
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Hold down the lifters from #1 cylinder while you turn the crank. Compression TDC will be when they are both down.
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pushed em down. found it. Thanks a bunch guys! :)
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Well Actually I wanted to be 100% sure so I kept going and it seems that one of them always comes up on the up stroke. i'm turning the motor clockwise. Is this correct? Anything else I should know. Again Thnx.

EDIT: I wasn't holding them down. That's probably why. I should be able to find it now with an extra set of hands.

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Okay, found TDC on cyl 1 compression stroke. Now i'm readin the instructions on how to use this tool and it says to refer to the vehicle service manual for the rest of the instructions... lol
So can anyone tell me what the book is gunna tell me, if not i can just go get one, we have autozone and advanced 5 mins away but if someone can tell me it'll save me the $20. lol
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#1 TDC compression is where the cam timing marks line up - the mark on the crank sprocket is at 12 oclock and the mark on the cam sprocket is at 6 o'clock. At this position, the passenger side front piston will be at TDC and both cam followers will be all the way down.

To install the CMP, follow the general instructions in this TSB.

Keep in mind that the tool only times the CMP to the Synchronizer window, so there can be as many "correct" timing positions as there are teeth on the drive gear. However, there are only one or two that will physically allow the CMP to connect easily with the engine harness.

Even without the aid of a shop manual, you should still be able to get it installed correctly. Just experiment to find the one gear tooth position that makes the CMP line up best with the harness connector. Also, double check that the Synchronizer/CMP doesn't interfere with any other engine parts.
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Yea, I found it using google Bob. It said just get the arrow on the tool facing the front of the motor and then put the sensor on, and sure enough, that was correct, I could see the mark on the sensor where it used to be held down at and it was the same exact spot. So i'm confident that it is in the correct position. I'll post some pics of the motor tomorrow. I painted the harmonic balancer oarange and repainted the shaft of the cps silver. Should I put some oil on the gear? or will it get oiled enough on the first fire up?
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It probably wouldn't make much difference but I'd play it safe and oil it.
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Is there any way that I can install my cam synchronizer back into my motor without the heads on?
I have bought the alignment tool, but it says put cyl 1 to TDC of the compression stroke.
Is there anyway to tell if the cylinder is on compression stroke without heads on the motor?
yes there is,put the 2 push rods in for #1 cylinder and turn motor until both are in the down position and the mark on the balancer is lined up to TDC
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did you not read any of the answers before replying?
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lol noob.
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lol noob.
lol noob?? as a matter of fact...yeah I do need sumpton for my ranger,a buyer,trying to sell ..
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Not interested bud. I have a good one. Why you sellin?
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Not interested bud. I have a good one. Why you sellin?
Im a route vender, been doing it in a 6 cyl. park ave. but I need something that is a lot better on gas since I do loads of miles a day and I chose to put the truck up for sale or trade and keep the park ave and my boat,and the wifes saturn, guess the truck was third on my priority of vehicles
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