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Old Sep 26, 2011
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Thinking of going to a separate nav/ av setup because I hate having my music interrupted at 1 mile, 1/2 mile, 1/4 mile, and when i am turning.

I was just curious some opinions on the user interfaces of various brands. I have used Pioneer and I like it, but was wondering how Kenwoods, Sonys, etc are like to use. I've tried a couple kenwoods in stores and stuff and didn't like it but that could have just been me being new to using them. Pioneers just seem easiest, wondering if anyone liked their other brands or have used them and liked them. Doesn't matter if they are nav or not, just wondered how the UI is for different touchscreens.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2011
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I hated having a double din. I went back to a stock unit CD6 from a 2008 Ranger. I like it a lot better and just run my Garmin GPS on the windshield mount.
 
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I pretty much only listen to ipod though, and i like being able to control it onscreen. It's hard for me to go back.

what garmin do you have? I'm lookin at the 2455LMT, $200, 4.3" screen, lifetime updates traffic/maps. never used a garmin I didn't like.
 
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I love my garmin. I'll look when I get in. At homedepot picking up some concrete...load up this rental real good lmao
 
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Old Sep 26, 2011
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I have the Kenwood ddx 418, it's pretty fantastic. Not much else to say really lol
 
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Pioneer AVH series. 4100, 4200, and 4300 are great units. Especially if you listen to Pandora.
 
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i had the avh p4000 back in the day, it was nice. The new ones look really awesome. I'd listen to pandora in my car if I could...

hey you wouldn't want to trade me would ya?
 
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Kenwood DDX714 here, NAV is cool (Garmin) I can program the NAV just about anyway I want with or without directions, sounds or interruptions. Mine is the add-on unit I think it is a Kenwood NAV510 or something like that but it is cool.
With the add on you get different options with different units I had an older DDX6019 and the DDX714 NAV options are completely different.
 
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i had the avh p4000 back in the day, it was nice. The new ones look really awesome. I'd listen to pandora in my car if I could...

hey you wouldn't want to trade me would ya?
Hell no lol
 
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Originally Posted by SteelDirigible
I pretty much only listen to ipod though, and i like being able to control it onscreen. It's hard for me to go back.

what garmin do you have? I'm lookin at the 2455LMT, $200, 4.3" screen, lifetime updates traffic/maps. never used a garmin I didn't like.
I have the 1490LMT. I got it at factory outlet store online saved a lot.
http://g.factoryoutletstore.com/deta...vi1490LMT.html
 
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Old Sep 27, 2011
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I use the Pioneer 2300 unit. It's not too bad, price is very good, but the radio station control is a bit weird. I can't just select a station that I set as number 1,2,3, etc. I have to scroll through all of my saved stations to get to the one I want. Only downside to the UI of this unit though IMO.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2011
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I have a pioneer p3200 and it is great. I had a f90bt with nav and what not but the ui wasnt as pleasing to the eyes as the 3200. you can still have a double din and not have nav. On a side note my pioneer gps was way better than my stand alone garmin.
 
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Originally Posted by joshawol
I have a pioneer p3200 and it is great. I had a f90bt with nav and what not but the ui wasnt as pleasing to the eyes as the 3200. you can still have a double din and not have nav. On a side note my pioneer gps was way better than my stand alone garmin.
My opinion of the F90BT was the exact opposite. I didn't think the navi worked as well as my Garmin but I did prefer the interface of the F90 over the P3200/4200. Thats just my opinion though, I'd like to try a Kenwood double din next
 
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mines sweet. i stream netflix and just about any other vid on my screen off my phone. plus the add on's are nice. nav (from garmin) bluetooth, back up cam, ipod. plenty of preouts, great user interface, built in eq the works.
 
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Personally I'd get one that's all built in one. I like the Kenwood ones for the fact that they come with Garmin built in, although I'm not sure if they offer full Pandora control like Pioneer does. I have mine setup so that the voice is turned off. It shows you on the bottom of the screen what you need to do while you're navigating. Here is one of the newer ones. Also the big thing I like about Kenwood is the volume is a **** and not a button, also the volume only goes to like 35 instead of 60 or whatever the other brands are. So it is easy and fast to make it loud or turn it down

 
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yea backup camera is badass

that looks like a nice deck!
 
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good point about the volume ****... that's a big turn off for me. the f90bt and other pioneer navs use a **** but not the av receivers... really lookin hard at the ddx318, wanting to keep the nav separate still...

what about start-up times? the f90bt is slowww.
 
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good point about the volume ****... that's a big turn off for me. the f90bt and other pioneer navs use a **** but not the av receivers... really lookin hard at the ddx318, wanting to keep the nav separate still...

what about start-up times? the f90bt is slowww.
The F90 was HORRIBLE to startup when it first came out, the updates helped it out some but its still pretty slow.
 
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New Kenwoods are fast as well. Mine is older now, so it's pretty slow. My friends starts playing music in about 1/4 the time it takes mine to
 
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got a hit on my unit on craigslist, hopefully be gone soon.

question... for the kenwood ddx 318 and 418, do i need a special cable for ipod hookup? or can i use USB? will my pioneer cable work, its just USB and r/w/y rca cables?
 
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Well this guys seems like he wants it for sure. for $420. just ordered Kenwood DDX 318, soon to order my new Garmin 40LM, 4.3" screen with lifetime map updates, and none of that bluetooth and traffic update bullsh!t. gonna come out $15 ahead and have new nav and stereo.
 
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yes you do, it should plug into the usb and the av port in the front. you dont get the optional rear plug in tho, that is the only thing i dont like about mine
 
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oh cool now ya tell me... well can't have it all i guess.
 
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well got my ddx 318 in the mail today. a little disappointed it does have separate subwoofer outputs, guess I won't have rear speakers for a while. not a big deal I guess. Going to go install it here in a few.

Oh and I would like to thank the FedEx man for hiding my package under the doormat so that would be thieves would be unable to find it.

 
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i dunno about the kenwood. have a few things bugging me.

-ipod cable/3.5mm patch cable going to receiver to listen to ipod
-no sub preamps, so i lose my rear speakers
-slow. faster than pioneer to start up, but slow to read from ipod or cd when switching from/to one or the other.
-the dial on pioneer also has directional buttons (FF, RW, etc) built in where they are screen only on kenwood
-pioneer has a better interface. easier to use, more visually appealing, and I feel like has more setup options.

A few things the kenwood has going for it:
-touch screen blows the pioneer out of the water. so much more responsive, where i would sometimes have to press 'buttons' on the pioneer a couple of times
-sounds great, starts up faster.
-screen can be turned off, radio can also be turned off completely, where pioneer can't do either.

so... gonna go to best buy and play with some of the newer pioneers to see how they do. i'm looking at getting the 4300 because it has everything i want, however it has a motorized tilt screen which worries me. Probably wont use it much though. It has rear USB and front/rear/ and sub outputs. the 3300 has front usb and i want my cables all in the back because i use ipod almost exclusively.

look for a full comparison when i sell my kenwood... $300 shipped let me know!
 
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