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Front speakers producing more bass?

I've found that in my truck the same exact speakers can sound like they create only a small amount of bass when they're installed in the rear, yet sound great when installed in the doors.

I did this experiment on my truck (a 2004 extended cab with suicide doors), last night with 2 sets of speakers. Both times the bass was significantly louder coming from the front doors than it was in the rear.

This makes me think that anybody that wants to change over their speakers for more bass might want to change out the front ones first. Anybody else notice this?
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i heard fletch was having the same problem as you, i be that power is lost over the legth of the speaker wire...in all the cars ive used i always put more power to the rear and just turned the sound up more
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i noticed that too, my rear's have NO bass but the doors sound pretty good for stock. Im thinking about just taking the back ones out and get some good pioneers for the front. The rear speakers just make it sound worse....
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i heard fletch was having the same problem as you, i be that power is lost over the legth of the speaker wire...in all the cars ive used i always put more power to the rear and just turned the sound up more

Hmm never thought of that Jeff, I was thinking it might have to do with the volume of air in each area... but I could be wrong.
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There is not enough length in the speaker wires in your truck to loose a significant amount of power.

MOST LIKELY, there is more air space in the door(larger enclosure), then in the back doors. Bigger boxes make bigger boom...
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There is not enough length in the speaker wires in your truck to loose a significant amount of power.

MOST LIKELY, there is more air space in the door(larger enclosure), then in the back doors. Bigger boxes make bigger boom...
Basically. I tell you what. for all those whos back speakers sound like crap buy an ampliferier and hook just the 2 to the amp. nothing big just like a 100-150 one. Then adjust the amp to HP (HIGH PASS) mode then you will get your crisps highs with no bass in the back while you got your fronts pounding away
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Yea my 03 is the same way...but I cant afford anything new as speakers go right now but I like the bass...so i just took the fade and moved it to the front about 2-3 lines...that has helped out a bunch...and u get a better sound all the way around...u are already so close to the rear speakers...so y have those turned up???? Thats just my thought....i moved mine about 3 bars to the front and the bass has really improved...and the sound in the truck is alot better....
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MOST LIKELY, there is more air space in the door(larger enclosure), then in the back doors. Bigger boxes make bigger boom...
My opinion is that there is too much space in the back doors, so its almost like having the speaker perform in free air. I think the front ones might have tighter airspace than the rears.
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buy some baffels for the rear????
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yall ever knowitce that the rear speakers are mounted to the plastic door pannels and the fronts are mounted to the steel door frame? i think the bass from the rear is being absorbed by the door pannel ???? maybe make like a brace for the back of the door pannel ?
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I think this is true for most trucks. Not only is it better to have the speakers perform better for the driver (as we are the primary listener.) I know this is true for my company trucks. (2005, 2006 dodge 2500 Cummins deseil) their crew cabs and the front speakers are actually 6x9's to make sure that sound is better up front.

I say just buy best speakers you can up front with an amp and boom your in bussiness. (i'm not even going to use my back spekaers in my Ranger.)
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i noticed that too, my rear's have NO bass but the doors sound pretty good for stock. Im thinking about just taking the back ones out and get some good pioneers for the front. The rear speakers just make it sound worse....
Same here.
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that is true...my mom is gettin a 06 Nissan Armada LE...with the 10 speaker Bose...and the front has all the bigger speakers...it has 5 speakers just for the front...and then the back has tweaters and two smaller speakers...which can be turned off when watchin a DVD...and then the sub in the back...the sound is much better in the front seats...unless I have found u have a new Dodge Durango with the infinity sound system then the sound is good all the way through!!!!
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Not just the space. The speakers are mounted in crappy plastic that isn't even a good baffle.

Use damping film of some sort on the plastic around the speaker and inside there and they'll sound better.

You can get some sound back by driving them harder (i.e.: add an amp) -- but it doesn't really solve the problem of a lousy baffle.

The front doors are a little better becuase of the metal the speaker is actually fastened to instead of weaker, more sonically transparent plastic.
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my mom is gettin a 06 Nissan Armada LE...
offtopic, but i freakin love those. my friend has one with a westin bullbar, BFG AT's, magnaflow, intake, RS9000's in the front. theyre great SUV's. good luck with it
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offtopic, but i freakin love those. my friend has one with a westin bullbar, BFG AT's, magnaflow, intake, RS9000's in the front. theyre great SUV's. good luck with it
Yea it is off topic...LOL...o'well we do it all the time...yea she hasnt gotten it yet...but she loves all the neat little options it has...LOL...she wont do anything like ur friend did to his...but she is gettin it 4x4...just cause...LOL...
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hmmm i will look into that one.....i was thinking of dyno mating the back doors by cupping them in werd so that it would make it like the speaker was sitting in a box!
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The rear speakers for my truck are not sitting in plastic... I know this cause it would've been a hell of alot easier to cut apart. They are metal, most likely because of the suicide doors. So I believe the reason for the speakers sounding better in the front is not because of materials, but because of airspace.
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interesting... never tried that before. thx for lettin me know.
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The rear speakers for my truck are not sitting in plastic... I know this cause it would've been a hell of alot easier to cut apart. They are metal, most likely because of the suicide doors. So I believe the reason for the speakers sounding better in the front is not because of materials, but because of airspace.
Okay -- my speakers screw to a "grille", which then screws to the truck. So the speaker is actually mounted to the plastic front. You could be right about the air space. Since I don't reproduce deep bass through mine, it doesn't matter so much.
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I gotcha, I didn't grasp what you were saying about the plastic part at first.

We all know you're not about the deep bass Mr. Griggs, as we can hear you just fine on the trails over all of our own stereos.
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Not just the space. The speakers are mounted in crappy plastic that isn't even a good baffle.

Use damping film of some sort on the plastic around the speaker and inside there and they'll sound better.

You can get some sound back by driving them harder (i.e.: add an amp) -- but it doesn't really solve the problem of a lousy baffle.

The front doors are a little better becuase of the metal the speaker is actually fastened to instead of weaker, more sonically transparent plastic.
What if I made a metal bracket? would that solve the problem?
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What if I made a metal bracket? would that solve the problem?
If you end up putting a sub or two in the back you may just not use the rears.
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A metal bracket wouldn't solve the problem. My theory is that there's too much airspace back there. This is almost the same as holding a wired up speaker in your hand and letting it play that way. Though because that area is a bit sealed up, you will hear a little more bass than you would in open air.

If you're looking to hear more bass, replacing the front speakers with a good set of component speakers should do the trick.
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rear fill is useless. deaden the doors and seal off the open spaces and make some mdf baffles for the speaker(i have 6.5's) and realize how much better they sound in front. if you insist on keeping the rear just deaden the rear doors and create an enclosure for them or just live with it.
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