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sound dampining doors...worth it?

Well since I'm going to be putting in new speakers in all four of my rangers doors(extended cab) I recently got the idea about putting in some sort of sound dampening on my doors too since i will be removing my panels anyways for the install.

I was thinking of doing the entire four doors with Second Skin Damplifier Pro or as a cheaper option getting a few Dynamat 10" x 10" squares to put behind the speaker cones(hoping to redirect the sound into the cab)

Is it really worth it and does it really make that much of a difference since I will be doing doors only? Then would it be best to do the whole door or just behind the speakers? Also I'm not sure how much material i would need for the doors if i used the Second Skin or the best way to install it. Hopefully someone here has some ideas
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i used peel n seal stuff from home depot, it got rid of vibration sound in from the sheet metal movin around, didnt do anything for sound qaulity. but gettin rid of any vibration is good
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Second skin is good stuff. Sound dampening will lower road noise in the cab, reduce vibration, and helps with sound clarity.

I wouldnt use anything asphault bassed unless you live up north and want to take the time to prep the surface well. Second skin goes on easy and stays where you put it. Short of wiping off any dust on excessivley dirty pannels, second skin requires no prep work.
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I wouldnt use anything asphault bassed unless you live up north and want to take the time to prep the surface well. Second skin goes on easy and stays where you put it. Short of wiping off any dust on excessivley dirty pannels, second skin requires no prep work.
HAHA yeah I wont be using that as i live in California were the temp can reach 100+ in the summer plus i don't want my truck smelling either

I'm still just not sure how much i need to get for my doors unfortunately and if it worth going with Damplifier pro over regular Damplifier.
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Second Skin is what i'm going to do. Doors, floor, and possibly that roof paint stuff. It'd be killer!

I rode in a truck w/ just the doors done with second skin....and WOW...they felt solid. And quiet.
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i used peel n seal stuff from home depot, it got rid of vibration sound in from the sheet metal movin around, didnt do anything for sound qaulity. but gettin rid of any vibration is good
I also did this and it doesn't smell past the first couple days, and it gets above 100 degrees here. It took care of all my vibrations on the back wall and both door panels.

Also, it only cost like, $20 to do the whole truck.
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I also did this and it doesn't smell past the first couple days, and it gets above 100 degrees here. It took care of all my vibrations on the back wall and both door panels.

Also, it only cost like, $20 to do the whole truck.
ha thank you! finally someone else has actually done it, and can vouche that there is no smell, its not going to melt off, and it works for what it is...

ive had inside car temp above 120degrees a few times and the peel n seal is still where i plaaced it.. all i did for prep was wipe dust off...
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ha thank you! finally someone else has actually done it, and can vouche that there is no smell, its not going to melt off, and it works for what it is...

ive had inside car temp above 120degrees a few times and the peel n seal is still where i plaaced it.. all i did for prep was wipe dust off...
It worked so well for killing vibrations that I plan to do it on the floorboard when I put new carpet in to kill the cab drone from my flowmaster 40 series deltaflow. I get quite a bit of vibration from it.

And to all the guys saying not to use it, to each their own. I live in Arkansas and it gets above 100 degrees in the summer, and my truck has NEVER smelled like tar or asphalt. Sure, peel 'n' seal isn't quite as nice as dynamat, but it costs a LOT less and for the price you could put a couple layers on and get almost the exact effect.

In the end do what you want though. I am happy with my choice, and will be putting more in my truck.
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Gruven, you don't smell the tar or asphalt cause it smells like that all the time in AR. LOL, how you been though, not talked with you in a long time.

I put the regular second skin damp mat mat in my door, one layer on the inside, one layer behind the door panel. So much more quiet, the door feels heavyer, and shuts so much nicer now. I would use the SS damp mat, $200 for 80 sq. ft. So far I have 2 layers on my floor, a layer on the back wall, same is done on the back doors also. Still need to do the roof.
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Gruven, you don't smell the tar or asphalt cause it smells like that all the time in AR. LOL, how you been though, not talked with you in a long time.

I put the regular second skin damp mat mat in my door, one layer on the inside, one layer behind the door panel. So much more quiet, the door feels heavyer, and shuts so much nicer now. I would use the SS damp mat, $200 for 80 sq. ft. So far I have 2 layers on my floor, a layer on the back wall, same is done on the back doors also. Still need to do the roof.
I am great, just started modding my truck again. Got burnt out for a while, and am back!

And I have my back wall, and both door panels, and I bet I have about $15 in sound deadener (peel 'n' seel) in my truck so far. I couldn't tell a difference in weight of the door, but like I said, no vibrations. That is the only thing I was trying to prevent (vibrations).
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It worked so well for killing vibrations that I plan to do it on the floorboard when I put new carpet in to kill the cab drone from my flowmaster 40 series deltaflow. I get quite a bit of vibration from it.

And to all the guys saying not to use it, to each their own. I live in Arkansas and it gets above 100 degrees in the summer, and my truck has NEVER smelled like tar or asphalt. Sure, peel 'n' seal isn't quite as nice as dynamat, but it costs a LOT less and for the price you could put a couple layers on and get almost the exact effect.

In the end do what you want though. I am happy with my choice, and will be putting more in my truck.
No one says it wont work. You could sit in your door with a box of rocks and a hot glue gun and dampen your doors. All dampening does is add mass to the pannel.

However, I've seen peel and seal messes and it isnt something I would ever risk. One layre may be fine. The majority of messes I saw where when people started doing multiple layres like can be done with other dampeners. But if it works for you that is all that matters. I just want people to be aware of the risk they may be taking if they use P&S. :)
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No one says it wont work. You could sit in your door with a box of rocks and a hot glue gun and dampen your doors. All dampening does is add mass to the pannel.

However, I've seen peel and seal messes and it isnt something I would ever risk. One layre may be fine. The majority of messes I saw where when people started doing multiple layres like can be done with other dampeners. But if it works for you that is all that matters. I just want people to be aware of the risk they may be taking if they use P&S. :)
totally agreed. peel and seal DOES smell, because it's asphalt-based. they don't have odorless asphalt yet, so this is an inevitibility. not only that, but peel and seal (and other asphalt-based sound deadeners) are PROVEN to not hold up as well in heat and moderate temperature fluctuations, expecially on verticle surfaces. literally EVERY vehicle i've seen where they cut corners and used peel and seal, the peel and seal actually 'droops' off the vertical surfaces after several months; as in the asphalt starts melting, and the peel and seal begins to slide/ooze down the panel. suggesting to use multiple layers of peel and seal is an even worse recommendation, as it will increase it's failure rate (and stink level).

like gruven said... to each his own. i personally would never use it. there's a reason it's marketed as a roofing mat, and not an automotive mat.

check out http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com for some good info.
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I bought Dynamat extreme because a stereo place had it local, bought the big trunk kit and had more than enough to d the truck. it made a world of difference and i didnt do all of the floor or even the roof. the doors alone make it worth it.
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I bought Dynamat extreme because a stereo place had it local, bought the big trunk kit and had more than enough to d the truck. it made a world of difference and i didnt do all of the floor or even the roof. the doors alone make it worth it.
Dynamat Xtreme is good stuff, it is just more expensive compared to Second Skin. Dynamat is the biggest name in the industry. Thus, they will uphold quality.



If you want top of the line quality for a better price, go second skin. Anthony is a great guy and an even better business man. Customer service, there is none better.

If you want good quality and are budget minded, go RAAMatt. The price difference between RAAMatt and say, eDuh's stuff is minimal but the quality is much better.

If you are really budget minded and want to run the risk of falling mats or are doing a floor install, go with something else. Of course every product is going to have good installs...but I've yet to hear about a dynamat, second skin, or RAAMatt install that has gone bad due to the product.

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I actually plan on using second skin (not sure with dampener or dampener pro) if i do my doors.

Today I happened to take my ranger onto the freeway for an hour drive and noticed a few things. First off it seemed to me that a lot of the outside noise was generated by the windows themselves in the form of wind noise. It didn't seem like there was any vibration in the lower part of the doors even when i pushed it to 90mph(something i wouldn't suggest doing lol). The other thing I noticed with the stock speakers(will be replaced shortly) is they tend to create their own vibration in the outer door panel and bouncing sound off it causes back-wave noise and distortion.

What I'm wondering is will second skin dampener actually combat that problem? Or will i need to get something else instead?

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Second skin will help with road noise. Trust me, it may sound like the sound is comming strictly from your windows (and a lot may be if you have a worn seal) but just doing the doors will lower the noise floor substantially. The back wall is another good place to start.

As far as backwave problem: After you dampen your door skins put a layre of foam over the dampening and seal the doors with dampener.
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I put Dynamat on the outside skin and on the inside skin of the door. World of difference. it will block/stop road noise like no other. also speaker quality is great!
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I put Dynamat on the outside skin and on the inside skin of the door. World of difference. it will block/stop road noise like no other. also speaker quality is great!
And you used the trunk kit?
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