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starting to plan out my next box...

Alright, so earlier tonight i started to take measurements of the back of my cab for my next sub box. i did a quick drawing in mspaint to show what it's gonna look like..

before anyone laughs or says anything, i know some angles are off.. as a matter of fact.. the entire thing is off, and not drawn to scale at all, so.. just see it as it is, lol.
 
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to explain it a little bit:

lookin at the front view, you'll notice that little door thing. basically, im going to make a second glove box there to store more and more crap. you can also see where i plan on having my ports sit.. they may change though, not sure about them just yet. i wanted the subs facing up this time, didnt wanna bother with a down firing set up.. i dont like how some sound in some trucks.

the side view shows how i plan on using 1/2" plexiglass as a window to view inside.. at the bottom of the side panels, there will be a removable panel that can be taken out, so you can reach the amps if needed. there will be enough clearence for them to be ventilated while under there.

and thats pretty much it.. i've got some ideas i wanna add as i start building.. some things may change yet also.. not sure completely just yet. anyways.. what do you guys think?? obviously i dont mind having no room in the back.. and with the measurements i've made, i'll lose just one click, like i've got as of right now, so, i should still be able to squeeze in, lol.
 

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Like the design! Looks Killer!
I assume that those are windows in the side?
Move them to the front and add some lights?
 
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Awesome design, yeah moving the window to the front might be better though, the sides you won't be able to see well.
 
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i was thinkin about doing them in the front.. but.. where they'd be.. i'd have my seats in the way.. with them on the side.. all i have to do is open the rear doors, and bam, there they are.. with them on the front i'd have to slide my seat up/forward, and i hate doing that, lol. lights will be added within.. that'll be towards the end of the building though.. my friend does awesome artwork with tagging, etc.. and can draw cars beautifully, like bailey did for the t-shirts.. if i decide to, i might have him do some sort of etch on the plexi glass windows on the sides.. maybe of my truck, or something.. not sure of what just yet.

i was also thinking of doing a plexiglass window in the bottom of the box, so when you look thru the sides, you can see underneith, where the amps sit.. im not sure if im gonna try that though.. its an idea i've got anyhow.. plus i was thinking of ways to incorporate some of that liquid gel stuff that looks like water (it was talked about in another thread a week or 2 ago).
 
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Didn't know if you had a Supercab or not. Guess the side would be better.
 
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yeah it's what i'm gonna try for.. hell.. if things seem to be working out.. maybe have plexiglass on both the side and the front?? ideas are still up in the air as of this point, lol.
 
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Wow, a very ambitious design! It goes without saying to take pics of the process. :)

I wouldn't do a 2nd glove box. Well maybe if you lined it with 1" thick padding because anything in there is gonna bounce and vibrate like crazy. Having the subs cone on top is great for looks, but facing them down is best for hard pounding bass. Also don't forget to give your ports adequate clearances from all objects that may block airflow, as anything that impedes airflow will hurt the output of the ported design. If it was me, I'd point the subs down, and the ports up. That also helps to prevent any "wandering hands" from damaging a cone or surround.
 
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BTW, if you guys are looking for some spiffy art work, I can draw damn good. Give me a sec and ill snap some pics of some toons i drew about 7 years ago. I dont draw much, but i can draw damn good. Should see the pic i drew of my wife, but that will have to wait for a couple of days, its at my in laws. Anyways, gunna snap some pics and then, maybe tomorrow, ill draw a 'toon' sketch of my truck. I know you guys will love it. I did one of my eclipse back in the day, but the pic got lost in my many moves before i got married.

Anyways, snapping pics. BRB

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This is about 7 years ago. I am much better now, but only thing i had with quick access. Its 2 different pics of 2 pictures.

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/41e36...GQjSCB1BW_OAtA

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/41e36...GQjSCBzoTk3JhP

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/41e36...GQjSCBIJ.d2Hbl

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/41e36...GQjSCBpWag3pjG
 

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Anyways, my whole point in that is this. Awhile back, I was drawing toonish style cars of friends cars that i used to hang out with at the Street Races here in Dallas. I had drewmy Eclipse, my friends Turbo Civic, a 95 Mustang GT, a 1997 Toyota 4x4 and a pop up camper trailer. heh. Another friend was coloring them up in Photoshop and we were going to have them printed. Then i just kinda stopped drawing and it all fell apart. I have been talking with my friend again and I want to do it again, so I am going to try and draw my truck in the next couple of days and if you guys like it, I would be willing to draw your trucks too for 1 mill-yun dollars.

(this has to do with Strider talking about his art on his speaker box. Sorry if i am slightly off topic)
 
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michael, i was thinkin about havng that problem with the 2nd glove box and was maybe gonna actually pad the inside like you said, using maybe some egg crate material you'd use on your beds.. i think if i did that, and maybe kept in mind to keep that thing fairly empty, the rattling could maybe stay at a minimum. hopefully i'll really only keep maybe just a sweatshirt in there.. hopefully, lol!

and im still mixed about the subs and where they'd sit. i guess i could have them firing downward.. you'd still be able to see them with the plexi-windows on the sides.. then i could maybe mount the amps up top instead of underneith. having the amps up top out in the open would insure the best cooling possible i guess. lol.. i was originally wanting to keep the ports facing upward as well (like michael recommended), but became concerned about stuff possibly dropping down inside the box. i guess i could make sure to not let anything like that happen.

hmm.. alright maybe i'll have them firing down then.. seems like everything would work out best that way.. and the ports facing upward.. lol, thanks for inspiration michael!


i just bought 2 sheets of 3/4 mdf and a new jig saw today so i could start messing around wth things.. ill take lots of pics of before, during, and after the process.. thanks guys!!
 
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Hopefully you can work up some type of removable plexi glass design, that will allow you access to the inside of the enclosure in case something falls in. Or just turn up the gain and shoot it out like a nerf gun... lol

And a jig saw will get the job done, but a circular saw is definitely recommended. Remember if the jig starts to weave on you, the blade is probably getting dull. I also recommend keeping 1 long piece of scrap wood with a straight edge on it. You can use this edge as a brace to run the jig saw against, and help keeping the cuts straight. Don't worry if it's not perfect, plenty of sheet metal screws and lots of glue will seal it.
 
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alright.. got a few things cut tonight.. here's a couple pics to show me starting off..

picture 1: my cramped work space, half in the garage, half out, lol. (we have so much damn furniture in our garage right now.. this was as far as i could get in)

picture 2: i got the top and bottom cut, along with the 2 interior baffles, which seperate the 2 chambers from the storage area in the center (thats my little brother holding stuff up for the pic).

picture 3: got the back wall cut as well.. started to assemble the few peices i had cut, then the battery died on my drill. i would have kept going with the 2nd battery, but that too was dead.. so, i had to stop for the night. (again, my little brother is holding stuff up for the pics, lol). at this point, only the back wall and the bottom piece are connected to each other.. the other pieces were just placed in for now to get a pic.
 
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oh, and for the design.. im still planning on doing that raised plateau in the middle.. itll just be built seperately after the main part of the box is done.. i think i wanna try something else with it instead of just having two slopes and a flat top.. maybe something a bit cooler looking.

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Don't worry if it's not perfect, plenty of sheet metal screws and lots of glue will seal it.
lol.. after tonight, i've found a new love for liquid nails, lol!

i might buy a circular saw tomorrow if i get the time.. the jig saw was nice for doing angles and what not, but yeah, those long straight lines get tricky after a while.. luckily my eye was pretty straight for today.. no bad cuts yet really.

after lookin things over, i've decided to try for the ports on the side. the build will be a bit easier that way. if i dont like how they are in the end, i can always rip it down and try it again, lol.
 
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The ports in the side might not be the best idea either, as the back doors will be blocking the flow of air. That flow into your doors will make them rattle like you wouldn't believe. Since you don't care about the size of the box you could put a slot port in facing the fwd in the middle. With that you could point the subs up or down depending on what you like best. I like down, it pounds harder. If you point em down you can always throw crap on top on em if you wanted to. Thats definitely a plus.
 
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the ports arent on the sides... they're right in the center, and wont be blocked by anything becuase they'll be opening between the seats. and the box is actually measured according to specs for best use. as for the subs.. they will be firing downward. can't throw crap up top tho anyway, my amps will be up there, and i dont like having things laying on top of them, lol.
 
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alright.. for the past 2 days, i've been tryin to work on it, but everytime i get set up, i end up having to leave to go do something else.. lol, i think i got like 4 screws screwed in over the past 2 days.. so here are some updates so far.. now everything is screwed together, and all of the joints are sealed. here's a pic of it so far..

lol, and you gotta admire the mass amount of room i have in my garage to work in.. its great moving around in there!
 
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Looking good so far! You bastards and your 4 doors. You'd never get that thing in my (2 door) truck!
 
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Originally Posted by Mnemonic
Looking good so far! You bastards and your 4 doors. You'd never get that thing in my (2 door) truck!
lol, i know!! even though i have 4 doors, im assumming already that im going to have to take the seats out to get this thing in there. i won't really mind it anyway if i got to, i'd like to do some sound dampener anyway since they'd be out. (if i get lazy and dont feel like doing the floor pan, i'll at least make sure to do the rear floor behind the seats, and the rear wall, so at least later on i dont have to take this box out again)
 
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That looks nice. I hope you carpet the thing once youre done. It will look very professional.
 
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That looks nice. I hope you carpet the thing once youre done. It will look very professional.
thanks! yeah, the entire thing will be carpeted a dark charcoal grey, to match the interior nicely, and inside (where viewable) will be painted black.
 
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Looks killer...

I like it...
 
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had some time today to do a bit more.. here's a couple more pics of the build.
as you can see, i didnt do the plexiglass sides. nowhere around here had anything thick enough to use, and the stuff they did have, was too epensive to bother with. im kinda dissapointed in not using it, but then again, it shouldnt be too bad.. at least i dont have to wonder if the side walls are strong enough anymore.

after these pics, i went ahead and added more screws all across the top, along with lots of liquid nails, lol. all that's left now is to figure out what i want to do with the amps and crossovers. i want to display them in some random order, just havent figured out how yet. once i get some more time to work on this thing, i should have all of that done, then have it carpeted, and ready to go in the truck. can't wait!
 
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It looks really good. just a suggestion, but you might want to carpet the inside of the new storage. I have a feeling anything solid/metal is going to vibrate and make noise against the wood.

I think you have done a fine job. Is it vented in the spaces between the to outside boxes and the middle storage?
 
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Aren't those magnet things on the lid are gonna vibrate like a *****?
 


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