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Old 03-18-2006
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Xm users beware

starting in a few weeks your gonna have commericials on select music channels. Clear Channel owns a chunk of XM i only predicted this was about 8-9 months ago. Give it anotehr year before clear channel censors XM. Ive been watching the trends at best buy and XM is slowly dying down. Stern brought sirius to a new level but not only him sirius has wayyyy better programming.....XM users consider switching before ur company falls apart
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It's be helpful if you posted something to back up these pretty serious claims.
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yea, like GM is going to let another of their dogs die....
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theres nothing to post i talked to the XM rep at work the other day. Call XM im sure they will tell you all about it.........Xm reported a 172M dollar loss last year. Their hurting bad....They just signed a deal with United airlines so you can listen to xm in flight but i dont think united or xm will last that long
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sirius has wayyyy better programming
That's for sure. It costs a little more than XM but if I'm Paying, I sure don't want commercials. That's why I went satellite anyway. I got sick of hearing 42 minutes of commercials & stupid DJ commentary out of every hour on local stations.

My sister has XM & I had her car for 2 weeks. That was plenty of time to realize I didn't want XM.

It's kinda funny....................I work at a GM dealer & a lot of vehicles come with XM free for the first 4 months after the vehicle purchase. When the vehicles come back for service months later, a lot of them have a Sirius device in them.

To each their own, I know 3 people that have XM & absolutely love it (my sister included). I couldn't find a station that I liked so I'll stick with Sirius
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Makes me glad I decided on Sirius last week, instead of XM. Mostly went with SIrius cause of Howard tho

Loved the interview with Hulk Hogan this week
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Sirius all the way.
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I can't believe they would start putting commercials on XM Radio... that completely defeats the purpose of paying for the subscription! Good thing I don't have XM or i'd be PISSED.
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Alot of customers will be. But with clear channel owning a chunk of XM thats the way it was bound to be....Sirius has its own problems the good ole conservatives want howard censored on satellite so there gonna be battling that for awhile
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as an XM subscriber, this thread got me investigating. According tothis article Clearchannel, an owner of XM since 1998, can program up to 4 channels, which they now want to put commercials on to increase revenue.

XM, in response, is adding commercial-free channels to offset this.

I think it's a positive thing, if anything. It's not like you don't have another channel to surf to if you hear a commercial or something. Plus, it's only 4 channels, most likely stuff I don't listen to (like top-20 or something). AND, we are gaining more channels. I wouldn't be surprised if they added more than 4. They launched 2 new ones 3/1.

You can't beat XM carrying baseball - there's always a game on, if you want to tune in. I like the NFL too (Sirius), but that's a Sunday-only thing. I'm happy for now.
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I can't believe they would start putting commercials on XM Radio... that completely defeats the purpose of paying for the subscription!
my thoughts exactly!
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as an XM subscriber, this thread got me investigating. According tothis article Clearchannel, an owner of XM since 1998, can program up to 4 channels, which they now want to put commercials on to increase revenue.

XM, in response, is adding commercial-free channels to offset this.

I think it's a positive thing, if anything. It's not like you don't have another channel to surf to if you hear a commercial or something. Plus, it's only 4 channels, most likely stuff I don't listen to (like top-20 or something). AND, we are gaining more channels. I wouldn't be surprised if they added more than 4. They launched 2 new ones 3/1.
If thats the case, then who cares. They put commercials on 4 channels and we the subscribers get 4 more commercial free channels. Its not like they are gonna put commercials on every channel.
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They may be adding four channels but i dont think there adding 4 channels in the same genre as the commericials are on. I dont know bottom line, xm is in big trouble $$$$ wise
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They may be adding four channels but i dont think there adding 4 channels in the same genre as the commericials are on. I dont know bottom line, xm is in big trouble $$$$ wise
they always have been in trouble. they were NOT making any money the first 2 years. they were losing in order to surpass sirius and they did. the problem is that they didnt bump up the charges soon enough and never recooperated. this is old news because many xm channels were already clouded with "info" commercials and i refuse to buy anything from them or sirius. what for? get yourself an MP3 player and record away. as far as the reps at best buy and circuit well, they tend to hate coming in its the custom shops where you will find out the true colors of the reps. our old xm rep used to take us out for beers and then the sirius rep would find out and take us out to the strip bars. we usually toyed with both of them to get free party money.
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Sirius not only has Howard Stern but they also got the contract for NASCAR starting in 07. All XM will have is a 30 minute show with Dale Jr and someone else i cant recall. They paid like 50 million to have Oprah 30 minutes a week. In comparison howards contract is 100 and hes on the air live 20 hours a week.
they are desperate. heard this on howard stern show some guy called in, if you call xm and want to cancel they will cut the rate down to 3.95 a month.

I got sirius way before howard stern, got a deal at circuit city and love it from the beginning. it cost 12.95 to xms 9.95 BUT you had to pay 3.95 for online listening which sirius was included. not saying all should switch if your stuck with it your stuck with it.
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XM has free online listening now (and has been since Christmas when I got mine).

I've heard real good stuff about sirius too, that's who my friends have service with.

Realize though, that if one of the 2 goes out of business, it's real bad for us the subscribers (look at Intel before AMD had any market share - mid-late 90's).
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This is the whole why do I care thing? I've listened to both and for me I like XM more because it has the Bone Yard as well as Squizz which is an awesome station whereas Sirius has Octane which is alright but I have so much music on my computer that I can burn to MP3 cds (the poor mans IPOD) I don't really care to subscribe to either. Both are a fun novelty and when I worked for GM it was great when I test drove PDI's. Both will have commercials soon enough but the people won't really notice it because they'll be national commercials instead of the ones pitching local restaurants like on the radio. But when the DJ says "I am eating some McDonalds right now" that's a commercial. Eventually they'll just keep talking until the whole point gets across. If the FCC controls it, it'll be screwed up soon... But this is all my opinion so no need to get pissed. And I doubt XM actually lost money last year as a company but collectively with GM they lost money and that looks like a great excuse to get commercials and raise rates.
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Ok a few things,

First of all it's no big suprise XM AND Sirius are losing money. It's part of their business. They will make money over time.

Second, its true a source would be nice for this news.

And also, I really doubt Sirius will ever have ads. I've yet to hear any type of advertisement unless its a joke.

Is this an advertisement? "You're listening to SHADE45: IF you are offended by the words "******, ****. *****. ****. ****, and other vulgar slurs please get the **** off of our channel". They'll talk about any **** on Sirius in the non censored channels. Soem channels are censored though because of listening audiences. Disney channel, top hits 1, etc.

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there have always been some commercials from onstar and so on and they pop up every hour on the hour. they started out with a few and of course will gradually move it down the line. i frankly have grown tired of it. after installing over 3000+units i am happy to not have to do these anymore.
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there have always been some commercials from onstar and so on and they pop up every hour on the hour. they started out with a few and of course will gradually move it down the line. i frankly have grown tired of it. after installing over 3000+units i am happy to not have to do these anymore.
You've installed 3000 units? Holy crap, thats alot of XM/Sirius...
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i averaged 20 a day for about a 8 months 5 days a week. did alot of dealership and regular customers. i also won a free trip from xm at one point along with spurs tickets and so on. had most xm installed in 15min or less. along with other components like amps and so on.
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damn..wish you were here to do mine. Took me all day

My first time though, learned a lot
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i get really good radio...and its free some new company called FM...lol....i live near detroit we have some of the best FM radio stations so i am happy with it. i dont see the need to pay for Sirius yet...that is till i move to Tenn there radios and radio reception sucks down there...
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FM in memphis was all clear channel, you know how crappy they are. I drive between 5 and 6am. The local radio station that did play Howard Stern didnt play til 6, 1 hour delay from NYC.
We must have some rule here that we can only have 1 country station and 1 rock station.
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both xm and sirius have certain channels with commercials, they have for quite some time. but when you compare satellite radio with maybe 0-2 commercials and hour compared to terrestrial radio which has usually 10+ channels per hour. PLUS satellite radio wont play the same song once an hour, its rare to hear the same song in a day unless you are listening to a repetetive countdown or something

I got xm when it first came out had it for about 2-3 years, and then got sirius. Sirius is by far better. I listen to howard stern, techno, rap, country, and comedy. the only thing that xm has better is their comedy channels, but everything else is much better.
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