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Old 01-26-2006
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About NXT Tech Wax

Yeh this was a long time ago but i never posted it.....I bought some Meguirs Next Generation Tech Wax (liquid) and waxed the ranger. It did a great job shining it up and gave it a tremendous look. The problem is it says it works on swirl marks in the paint....and it didn't. Does anyone know if there is anything out there to get rid of swirl marks......IN BLACK PAINT. Thanks.
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zach (redneckstone) is the king, he should answer shortly. i'm looking for the same thing, and he told me to claybar the truck, and then use that wax i think. he was explaining it here. https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=17677
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Bad Swirl marks will require some level of cleaning or polishing to remove. Swirl marks are really small scratches in your paint (typically clear coat, maybe deeper). Start with a regular cleaner wax or meguair's paint scrub. Then a good coat of polish to really help it look wet. THEN seal with meguair's gold or NXT.
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cool thanks man, yeh hopefully zach will give his two cents worth about nxt tech lol.
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ok like mike put very well. NXT did work on your scratches what it works on is the micro scratches on the paint. the deep swirls on your truck being its black i know what your talking about lol black is the devil. all you black lovers you must never like your truck clean LOL....

ok yes you will need to wash the truck then use a polish mechine polish. ranging from semi med to fine to mechine glaze then moving to a wax of some sort being NXT would be a good chioce.

next time around Clay bar the whole truck then wax.

the polishing will take a good whole day or maybe 2 its not a qiuck fix at all.


try this first


for a beginner like yourself start with this see if it works use this Deep crystal

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Deep Crystal system Polish is a pure polish specially formulated for dark-colored cars. The formula creates a dazzling, high gloss finish by conditioning and nourishing the paint, making dark colors darker and eliminating fine hairline scratches for perfect swirl-free reflections. It is that extra step necessary to create the ultimate, wet-look show car shine. Apply with an Even-Coat Applicator and remove any excess product with a Supreme Shine Microfiber for amazing results.
apply that with a mechine buffer, if you cant find it at auto store order it from meguiars its like $5

ok if you have deeper scratches use a scratch-x to the scratch you might have to apply to the area more then once for it to begin to work

thats for like spot treatment its like $8

then follow up with the NXT wax. NOW USE ONLY microfiber towels on the paint your black is like a must really if you dont have some pick up a 10-pack give that a try and see what happens
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cool man, thanks alot.
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scratch x didn't do a thing for black paint when i did it. the best thing i've found is meguiar's cleaner wax. it definitely passes the slide test. *WARNING* DO NOT LEAN AGAINST TRUCK AFTER USING!
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step up to real wax get the NXT and do the truck. instead it does a better job on the tiny swirls. and scratch-x is ment for like key scratches you MIGHT have to apply to area MORE THEN ONCE its is NOT ment to do the whole truck with...
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I was out of Zaino and too lazy to go online, so I bought all the NXT stuff to wax Kara's Miata. That was about 2 months ago. This weekend I'm stripping it all off and putting Zaino on it. It doesn't even compare.

For bad swirl marks, nothing beats a professional buffing. After that I'd use scratch-X, its about the harshest compound that I trust myself to use without making the swirls worse instead of better.
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A 1990 miata probably needs a bit more attention than a coat of NXT.
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A 1990 miata probably needs a bit more attention than a coat of NXT.
I put the NXT on immediately after having it professionally buffed out. The junk has been on there for only two months and it doesn't even bead anymore. Zaino goes 4-5 months before the beading starts to break down. I put Zaino on my 91 Miata and it looks fantastic, of course its only been 2 weeks now, but I'm sure it will continue to look great for more than 2 months.
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LOL oh dear god here we go agian i love ya wowak. btw my truck hasnt been waxed in oh 5 months easy because its winter mine still beads
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Everyone thinks that what they use is the best if they haven't tried anything better. Use 'em both and then we'll talk.
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i have used everything but your beloved zeno brothers. i mean every wax. thats on the main market. i rest with meguiars thanks buy me a "system" or what ever that stuff is and i will do it other then that no thanks.
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Zaino vs Meguair's: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/gheumann/zaino_test/

Zaino vs Meguair's vs Zymol: http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html
Unfortunately it's not totally fair because he doesn't use the meguair's polish, just wax. But he uses the zaino polish.

I would gladly give it a try, but it appears to be pretty expensive and very hard to find (internet order only?)

Brian, can you post what a basic "kit and caboodle" set should contain, and where you go to purchase it? I might give it a shot if it doesn't cost more than 1/5 the cost of a set of sliders.
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Brian, can you post what a basic "kit and caboodle" set should contain, and where you go to purchase it? I might give it a shot if it doesn't cost more than 1/5 the cost of a set of sliders.

The basic "Must Haves" for Zaino are:

Z2 Pro showcar polish - $14.95 (Z3 for non clearcoat paints - same price)
ZFX Flash Cure Accelerator - $19.95
Z6 Gloss Enhancer Spray (like Quik Detailer, etc.) $9.95

I also stock:
Z7 Show Car Wash (I put it in my Mr Clean Autodry sometimes too) $8.95

If your car is a few years old and has alot of swirl marks also get:
Z5 swirl and small scratch remover $16.95


Although I've heard they're good, I haven't used Zaino's tire gloss, claybar or glass polish.

So assuming you get all the "basics" for a new vehicle you're looking at about $54+shipping.

The other essentials are a good clay bar, some Dawn dish detergent, and a few white 100% made in the USA cotton bath towels, and you're ready to rumble, or you can buy their "total protection kit" (includes everything I listed, Z2, ZFX, Z5, Z6, Z7, plus their claybar, 16.95 seperate, and a few applicators) for $84.70, although in my experience they throw in one or two applicators with every multiple-product order anyway.
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i have used everything but your beloved zeno brothers.
Off the top of my head I've used:
Liquid Crystal
Zymoil
NuFinish
Meguiars 3 step
MEguiar's PRO 3 stem
Mothers 3 step
NXT
various straight carnubas
various turtle waxes
I've used ALL of it. (Liquid Crystal, which I don't think they make anymore, gave me a gnarly buzz from the fumes.)

On top of being the best, its the easiest to apply, it smells like strawberries, and leaves no white residue anywhere on the car! It beads like a fresh coat of rain-X for months after you apply it, and one internet order is enough to last 2 years, assuming you apply 2 coats every six months. (ok, you might use up your Z6 detailer spray and Z7 carwash before 2 years is up.) The only reason I haven't thrown my NXT away is because I guess I can use it to wax the chrome exhaust tip on Kara's Miata.
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I washed my truck this past friday being it finally quit raining and has been rather warm. It had been a while since I waxed my truck, say a year and a few months, so I picked up some meguiar's paint cleaner, NXT wax, a bundle of microfiber towels, and an extra applicator. It removed pretty much all the scratches. The exception being scratches from people hitting my truck w/their doors or shopping carts(it doesn't do any good to park away from people). I'm sure there might be some products out there that there that might be better, but it will cost you not to mention if you have to buy their additional products to get the end result. Now for me, I'm just an everyday middle-class joe-shmo. My truck isn't a show truck. So in my own opinion, NXT or any other Meguier's product is about the best bang for your buck. The paint cleaner and wax together cost less than $20 and my truck looks practicly new and it's an '02.
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I got NXT because so many people on this site said how well it worked for them. I've tried many other products myself and decided to give it a try. All I can say is, it's the best stuff I've ever used.
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wax

At our dealership when a black vehicle comes in with swirl marks like that we usually have to buff it several times to get them out really good. It sucks to do this but it looks great in the long run.
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orbital buffer FTW!!!

i just finished my dads truck last week...it took me 9hrs. It was a mess...swirl marks, scratches, etc...now it looks awesome...almost good as new. I used meguires 3 step polish, scratch x, swirl and haze remover, vinegar (water spots) and nxt for wax
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dang nine hours... it usally takes me like 2 to do my truck...
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i can do mine in just over 2 hours. Wash it, do the wheels, the underbody, dry ,Full buff, even wet sand if i have to for certain scratches that i'm determined to get out, Then orbital it all, take all that compound off, then I buff my polish of choice[4 different waxes mixed in together] in with a foam pad, then a sealant wax. Never clay bar'ed it, have never had to.
Probably helps that i do this everyday on a big variety of vehicles.
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i can do mine in just over 2 hours. Wash it, do the wheels, the underbody, dry ,Full buff, even wet sand if i have to for certain scratches that i'm determined to get out, Then orbital it all, take all that compound off, then I buff my polish of choice[4 different waxes mixed in together] in with a foam pad, then a sealant wax. Never clay bar'ed it, have never had to.
Probably helps that i do this everyday on a big variety of vehicles.
yea, i probably should have added there was beer in there...a lot

i can't work out in the sun without it...it's like sun tan lotion on an english broad...they go hand and hand.

i probably could have got away with 6hrs...but i was hungry halfway through. and i spent a lot of time buffing and waxing...i waxed 2x...the double wax thing...so you get a good coat of wax on there...i do that often...helps with scratches
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I have some in the spray form, the first time I used it, I though it was like Meguires (sp?) Quick Wax, yeah, it's not. Least to say I was pissed off, cuaseI had to go through the whole waxing thing 10min before dark on an Escalade that was 30min from being traded in.

That's the only time I've used it. I use Meguire's Gold Class on my truck. But I haven't experimented with too much wax. I just use it to erase some of Nature's Pinstriping down the sides.
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