do you polish before you wax? - Ranger-Forums - The Ultimate Ford Ranger Resource


Auto Detailing 101 General discussion of auto cleaning and detailing. Learn tips and tricks to keep your Ford Ranger looking its best.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 11-12-2005
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,046
do you polish before you wax?

i generallly will wash my truck, then use nxt wax on it...

should i be adding a polishing step with some sort of polish/glaze before i wax? what do you guys do?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-12-2005
zabeard's Avatar
who?
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: IN
Posts: 26,045
i wash, clay bar and wax. i use nxt wax also.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-12-2005
SilverBulletXLT's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 431
I use meguires cleaner wax before I use the good wax. Whatever it can't get, I use rubbing compound on.. then follow it up with a nice coat of wax. I like the turtle wax ultra gloss..
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-12-2005
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,046
Quote:
Originally Posted by zabeard
i wash, clay bar and wax. i use nxt wax also.
do you generally clay bar every time? any clay in particular?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-13-2005
zabeard's Avatar
who?
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: IN
Posts: 26,045
i use mothers clay just because that is what the local automotive store has. i only clay bar every couple months and i usually wax once a month, so i dont clay bar everytime.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-13-2005
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 295
Be careful with heavy rubbing compound.

I use Finesse, get it for a very good price, and it is the best stuff out there, imo.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-13-2005
YellowEdge's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: White House, TN
Posts: 442
My dad works in the automotive division at BASF (doubt if anyone has everheard of them), so i get to use all the glaserite and 3M products and i really like them. I usually polish every other wash
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-13-2005
eXtremePC's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: St. Peters, MO
Posts: 355
I wash, wax with Zaino, use a gloss enhancer in between each coat of wax.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-16-2005
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Central PA
Posts: 31
Clay then polish/swirl remover, then sealant wax to keep it shiny for a few months. I dont like to wax my vehicles every month.
I use a Porter Cable buffer to apply the polish and wax as well.
Good detailing tips can be found at detailcity.com.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-16-2005
04Sonicedge's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 529
Quote:
Originally Posted by eXtremePC
I wash, wax with Zaino, use a gloss enhancer in between each coat of wax.
I do the same. All Zaino products for me, makes it easy.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-06-2005
Jhoef07's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Evansville
Posts: 3
I own a car wash and the best thing to do at least i think is to clean your truck, let it dry, polish it then wax it...
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-06-2005
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 3,115
Quote:
Originally Posted by zabeard
i use mothers clay just because that is what the local automotive store has. i only clay bar every couple months and i usually wax once a month, so i dont clay bar everytime.
What is clay bar ?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-06-2005
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 3,115
Last time I waxed my truck i used turtle wax rubbing compound and then turtle wax, it rained 2 days later and it looked 60% as bad as it did before.

What can i do to keep it clean, shiny, and scratch free for at least a month ? sealer ? what sealer do you use ?

What do you think of perma-seal wax ?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-06-2005
Jhoef07's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Evansville
Posts: 3
ive heard that the perma seal wax works good
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-06-2005
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,046
meguiars has a sealant wax in their professional line; #21 sealant. it is similar to nxt in the look it gives, but it outlasts nxt for sure. you should be able to order it from local professional car care shops or online. remember to let the polymers set for a good 12 hours to achieve maximum durability and longevity. to let the polymers set, just dont over-polish the paint immediately after you wipe the wax residue off, and try to keep the finish dry, as water will interfere with the polymers setting up as well. of course you can just wax it and forget about it... i'm just giving tips for a 'best-case' scenario.

you'll also hear people recommend zaino. i've never used it, but i hear it works great. brian wowak uses it on his truck, and he claims to get a good 6 months out of it no problem.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-06-2005
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 3,115
So is it
wash, dry, rubbing compound, wax, then sealer wax
or
wash, dry, rubbing compound, then sealer wax

I have some NXT I used once on my wheels, maybe I will give that a try.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-06-2005
RF Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: College Station, TX
Posts: 5,782
I used meguiar's 3 step system with NXT instead of the final step wax and it worked brilliantly.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-06-2005
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 3,115
Whats their 3 step process ?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12-06-2005
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,046
their 3-step process is the deep crystal system;

Step 1: Deep Crystal Cleaner
Step 2: Deep Crystal Polish
Step 3: Deep Crystal Wax

If you'll be using #21, i'd apply it after the clay step. #21 basically fits in the same catgory as waxes, so you don't need a separate wax. if you really want it to pop, you could put a coat of some type of carnauba wax over the 21. Mothers has a pure carnauba, and meguiars has #26 hi-tech yellow which would also work.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-06-2005
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location:
Posts: 3,115
whats clay ?
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 12-07-2005
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Central PA
Posts: 31
clay as in clay bar sold to clean your paint surface of contaminants
if you want to feel these contaminants, take a ziploc baggy and put your fingers inside of it and run it over your paint. You will feel the bumps.

To get rid of those and have truly smooth paint....
wash the car off with Dawn and warm water to strip all your old waxes off your vehicle then you take the clay bar and some quick detailer and run it over your paint in a straight line.

Now do run your fingers over the paint in the baggy and it should be totally smooth.

There is specific clay bar to use on car paint so only buy what is sold in the car-care section of the auto parts stores.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 12-07-2005
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,046
claying would fit under the 'cleaning/prep' stage, but keep in mind that a full cleaning/prep will include two parts;

1. clay - removes above surface contaminants
2. paint cleaner - removes below surface defects
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 12-07-2005
FMD's Avatar
FMD FMD is offline
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Amherst NY
Posts: 3,811
and this stuff wont harm the clear coat?
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 12-07-2005
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,046
what? the clay or the cleaner?

clay doesnt harm paint. maybe if you were to use an aggressive clay, and not enough lubricant, you might get some light marring, but i've never seen it happen. clay is simply pulling out contaminants that are lodged into the paint/clearcoat.

paint cleaners, on the other hand, generally have abrasives in them. since their intended use is to remove damage to single-stage paints or clearcoats like etched watermarks, light swirls, bird droping etchings, etc etc, it technically has to remove some paint or clearcoat to level the surface around the damaged area. of course its VERY minimal, but it is technically removing paint.
i personally like meguiars stuff because they use diminishing abrasives. basically, as you work the product into the paint, the abrasives get smaller and break down... basically polishing the area youre working on incrementally to a fine finish.

Last edited by barrman; 12-07-2005 at 11:22 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Car Wax/Polish Test - 25 Products GMG Auto Detailing 101 0 09-19-2013 08:16 AM
Collinite 845 Insulator Wax...The BEST wax I have ever used dixie_boysles Auto Detailing 101 10 06-11-2012 04:15 PM
Turtle Wax "ICE" polish FTL. :( DaneTrain Ranger Products, Company, & Member Reviews 19 05-21-2007 01:38 AM
To Wax or Not to Wax HighRollerII Auto Detailing 101 12 07-02-2005 03:25 PM
Meguiers NTX Polish/Wax YellowBear2002 Auto Detailing 101 4 08-07-2004 07:32 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:42 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.