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****ty brakes?????....Help

ok so today i was driving home from the lake with 3 people in my truck and a bunch of gear in the back. on the way home the 2 passengers wanted to switch spots...so on one of the down grades (didnt want to try accelerating UP the mountain) i saw a turn out and hit the brakes and was slowing down to go in it...well i was pushing on my brakes and i got close to the gravel and wanted to stop..so i pushed the pedal down more...it go to the point where it doesnt go down any more and i was still rolling down the hill. i stopped but it definitely wasnt locking them up or even any thing close to that. do u thing i just need new pads? the pads still have life in them but they are stock pad i got off an expo at the JY in the front and the back pads are some pads that i think are stock that they guy i bought the expo 8.8 from gave me. is it time for new pads all around? and the expo 8.8 is disc. or do u think i just need to bleed the brakes more. i thought i got all the air out when i put that axle in but maybe not. also i wouldnt lock them up before either. is the master cylinder bad? thanks
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cant really tell you it could be pads or rotors or air in the line low fluid just going to have to look
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Start by trying the easy things first. Try bleeding them again and see if that helps. Then try pads. Then if all else fails, rotors.
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any suggestions on pads?..so i need to buy the really expensive ones at kragen? or are the cheap ones fine? or should i get some online?
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Get something like Duralast pads. If I'm not mistaking they come with a life-time warranty.
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orielys brand has a liftime warenty
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ok so i went out to bleed them again. last time i had someone push the pedal in and i opened the bleeder valve and then closed it and let the pedal up ect. but this time i used my vacuum pump. i did the rear pass side first since its furthest from the master cylinder. i start bleeding it and i can hear the air in the lines. i have pulled over 3 of my vacuum pump containers out and the air is still in there. i tried having someone step on the pedal and it is still there. both backs have the air bubble noise in them and i can see bubbles coming into the container on my pump, and they take way longer to get a container full than the fronts. any idea how to get all that air out of there?
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is your resivor full
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Junkyard brake pads, really?
Dude it's not like new brake pads are expensive, and they are sort of important.
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I just got new pads, front and rear, new rotors, and drum kit for $200 from autozone, 2 year warranties on everything. Installed it all myself with my brother's help yesterday afternoon. If you are running used ones I would go with new pads, and you can get your rotors machined if they are not too bad, because they are probably at least glazed over, if not new rotors.
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ya im a poor highschool student...lol....so what pads should i buy. does it really matter that much? kragen cheapies vs. those green stuff ones or what? thanks
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i think your brakes might be fine that same story happend to me in my old ranger the cause....... way overloaded i had me and 3 friends in the truck and a bed full of snow needless to say i almost went off the side of a montain what did i learn from this snow is effin heavy

how much did all the gear in the back of the truck weigh? and how much did you and friends weigh?
but it woudnt be a bad idea to get rid of the junkyard pads
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well i bled it again and used 1qt of brake and this time with a clear hose and someone pushing on the pedal. now i really saw how much air was in there. i bled the rear pass side like 15-20 times and each time like 5-6 air bubbles came out. then i did the driver side and did it like 5 times until no air. but i think i still have air but my friend was getting tired of pumping and i ran out of brake fluid. but now if i hit the brake as hard as i can it will actually skid...in the front at least, and on dirt the back will skid a little. now with the discs in the back does it take more or less pressure than the drums do. if it takes more than maybe i got all hte air out but it just doesnt have the pressure to lock the back up? idk. i think im gonna buy new pads any way tho. should i get ceramic or semi-metallic?....either way it looks like its gonna cost me like $100 to do all 4 corners...
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well we had a generator, my dog, 5 sleeping bags (thick ones) a tent, stove, cooler, and my tool box probably weighs 2-300lbs. and i weigh 200, and one guy weighed like 270 and the other like 170...so ya a lot of weight
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well we had a generator, my dog, 5 sleeping bags (thick ones) a tent, stove, cooler, and my tool box probably weighs 2-300lbs. and i weigh 200, and one guy weighed like 270 and the other like 170...so ya a lot of weight
well i dont think you were overloaded minus the 270 friend sound like what i load up on a camping trip maybe a combo of the load and the air
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ya but i also have 33's on steel wheels....takes a lot to stop those...lol
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ok so i went out to bleed them again. last time i had someone push the pedal in and i opened the bleeder valve and then closed it and let the pedal up ect. but this time i used my vacuum pump. i did the rear pass side first since its furthest from the master cylinder. i start bleeding it and i can hear the air in the lines. i have pulled over 3 of my vacuum pump containers out and the air is still in there. i tried having someone step on the pedal and it is still there. both backs have the air bubble noise in them and i can see bubbles coming into the container on my pump, and they take way longer to get a container full than the fronts. any idea how to get all that air out of there?

The air you're getting from your vacuum pump probably isn't from the lines, its probably just leaking in from where the line is on the bleeder screw. Mine does the same thing. If I actually bleed the brakes the old fashioned way I get fluid immediately.

I'm going to lean towards a hydraulic problem rather than a pad problem. Unless the pads are completely glazed over they should still stop you with the pedal completely mashed.
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i did do them the old fashion way and now they are way better....

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well i bled it again and used 1qt of brake and this time with a clear hose and someone pushing on the pedal. now i really saw how much air was in there. i bled the rear pass side like 15-20 times and each time like 5-6 air bubbles came out. then i did the driver side and did it like 5 times until no air. but i think i still have air but my friend was getting tired of pumping and i ran out of brake fluid. but now if i hit the brake as hard as i can it will actually skid...in the front at least, and on dirt the back will skid a little. now with the discs in the back does it take more or less pressure than the drums do. if it takes more than maybe i got all hte air out but it just doesnt have the pressure to lock the back up? idk. i think im gonna buy new pads any way tho. should i get ceramic or semi-metallic?....either way it looks like its gonna cost me like $100 to do all 4 corners...
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