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Borg Warner 1354 interchangeability

So my transfer case is shot, chain has a ton of slack, its making all kinds of noises, clanking, and it hotter than my exhaust after a 20 mile drive. I am going to drop it out later but i know its trashed.

I am on the hunt for another 1354. Wish I had the money for a Stak3 but it will have to wait. lol

So whats gonna work?

Can I run a manual 1354 from an explorer and the speedo will still work? And can I swap the output shafts from my current case to this one so the Driveshafts still work?

I would like to find a 02-03 level2 but chances of that are slim.
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Where is your speed sensor now? Mine is on my transmission. If yours is you'll have no problem.

I think there's a couple of different styles of connectors? That's one thing.

The output shafts are all the same, but there are different flanges and they are all interchangeable at the shaft level so shaft changes shouldn't be necessary except flange/yoke swapping from one to the other.

Though as I think of it...that front shaft for the CV type driveshaft might be different?
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Yes Drive flanges... That is good that they are all changeable. but i think that front CV is one piece like you mention.

I am leaning more and more to wanting a manual one. I think the speed sensor is in the tail housing... so i guess its on the trans. Must have read some bad info earlier.
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On the auto tranny you have the speed sensor is in the tranny itself, not the tailhousing and not the t-case. So yes you could swap in an explorer case and not have to worry about the speedo.

I'm not sure how easy it is to swap the tulip style flange onto the older case, but I've read about it being done before.
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Like said above Beard, if you swap in an Explorer manual BW1354 transfer case (which is what I would do if I were you) the speedo is still going to be in the same place; the transmission.

You can still use your front driveshaft with the Explorer manual BW1354. Take the adaptor off your driveshaft (the adaptor that makes it fit the Jeep driveshaft) and it will bolt into the u-joint cups on the BW1354. The rear driveshaft is the same on either t-case.
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might be able to because it will make the shaft shorter.

anyone know where a manual 1354 is? for sale? junk yard? im not having much luck locally.
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i wish i was ready to drop in the atlas II but im no where ready for that (:
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Beard I think your best bet is www.car-part.com

But they do pop up on the explorer forums sometimes.
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I think I can get one with a shifter for $225 shipped.

I think your driveshaft will be fine without the adaptor.
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Nice, all my questions answered as well! I'm looking to do this as well, as I'm sick of automatic bullcrap... I'll be watching this thread
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might be able to because it will make the shaft shorter.

anyone know where a manual 1354 is? for sale? junk yard? im not having much luck locally.
beard, Im going to the JY tomorrow. I can search for one but if there is only one I am going to have to keep it for myself

are you interested in paying for shipping if I find you one? as usual I would only charge you what i would pay for it...
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Nice, all my questions answered as well! I'm looking to do this as well, as I'm sick of automatic bullcrap... I'll be watching this thread
lol if I find three, you want one as well?
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lol if I find three, you want one as well?
Good luck with that!
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haha.. i have a auto 1354 for sale
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I think I can get one with a shifter for $225 shipped.

I think your driveshaft will be fine without the adaptor.
yeah can you get the shifter stuff too? if so i am interested. this is a 1354 right?

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beard, Im going to the JY tomorrow. I can search for one but if there is only one I am going to have to keep it for myself

are you interested in paying for shipping if I find you one? as usual I would only charge you what i would pay for it...
you can keep your eye out for one but its gonna be $$ for shipping. thanks for the offer tho

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haha.. i have a auto 1354 for sale
i will keep it in mind. who knows.

thanks guys!
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yea I believe that is for a shifter assembly also. I will find out for you tomorrow man. I know for sure that it is a 1354.

I am thinking about getting one for the BII, but I already have 2 manual BW1350's.
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i'll sell you mine out of the level II


























































































































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i can't even find one. i gotta get mine rebuilt
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theres a few by me for $250, they are out of explorers.

you pay for shipping and gas and i will get one for you.

or you could have evan go grab it, and bring it down when he comes.
tell him they are at fox auto parts if you want todo that.
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yea I believe that is for a shifter assembly also. I will find out for you tomorrow man. I know for sure that it is a 1354.

I am thinking about getting one for the BII, but I already have 2 manual BW1350's.
ok let me know today. gimme a ring!

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sike

i can't even find one. i gotta get mine rebuilt
you suck! lol just gimme the shifter and ill give you my broken one

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theres a few by me for $250, they are out of explorers.

you pay for shipping and gas and i will get one for you.

or you could have evan go grab it, and bring it down when he comes.
tell him they are at fox auto parts if you want todo that.

Thanks Daniel I will keep that option open!
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Will do!
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Good luck with that!
i found two without trying too much...

thanks for the encouragement anyway?
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you can keep your eye out for one but its gonna be $$ for shipping. thanks for the offer tho
i found two, one has a slip yoke front output. I forget if you can change that or not...

Ithink im going to get another 1350 and start thinking about a tripler too!

anyways, I had a bad JayWhy day (even with my CO2 tank and air tools!), I am going back again this week, but this time im bringing my torch.

there were numerous explorers I didnt even check, so its actually a really good possibility that I can find more.

I need to start pulling all the "hard to find" sh*t and stockpiling it to sell. my junkyard is absolutely amazing!!
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yeah no kidding. my local JY and u-pull dont have ****
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all the slip yoke fronts are BW1350's.
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