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gen 3 SAS

gey guys

i think i have SAS in my future with my truck, but i dont know much about SAS so if someone could make a list of all the parts and stuff i need, that would be terrific!

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not to burst your bubble but just take a look through the projects forum and maybe sit down and read some of the sas threads in there. its a little bit more than "a parts list". read those and itll tell you what you need
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not to burst your bubble but just take a look through the projects forum and maybe sit down and read some of the sas threads in there. its a little bit more than "a parts list". read those and itll tell you what you need
Exactly. There is so many different ways to implement an SAS that you really need to understand what your plan is before you even think about parts.

I mean, the first and probably first question is what type of suspension do you want? Leafs? Coils? Coilovers? If Coilovers, what type of link setup? Etc., etc. And that is just the tip of the iceberg (well a big portion of the iceberg, but it's a saying... leave me alone. :) )

If your going to do an SAS, you really need to do your homework. Or pay someone to do it. Best advice... read, read, and read some more. Go over threads that have had other people doing it. Send PM's to people who have completed one asking technical questions. People don't respond well to simple "Tell me how to SAS?" because there isn't an answer. It's like asking a Microsoft Customer Support person how do I fix Windows? People need more details. Be specific. Say "You know I'm thinking about doing an SAS and what some insight about yours? Do you like your <insert suspension setup here>?" Blah blah blah... you get the point.
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The first SAS I did was a few years ago when I was 16 to my first pathy, It was a rude awakening. There is alot more to it than putting an axle under the truck and driving away to the local mud pit or rock wall. Skills of the trade is needed. You'll need lots of tools, time, money, space, knowledge of how parts and components work.

Just go through the SAS thread and see what your getting youself into, we may be wrong you could be the master mechanic.

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honestly.. a SAS thread helps.. a lot.. but it still comes down to skill, common sense, experience, ability to fab and weld etc..
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yeah, i know it was a hard to answer question. i just wanted to know like what type of axle to look for and stuff like that. is it possible to have a solid axle with close to stock height? im not really looking for a dedicated wheeler, just a good solid 4wd pickup, kinda something different. my buddy is doing his pathfinder right now and he just told me how lucky i am to have a gen three ranger compared to something with torsion bars. but thanks guys
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Time to grab a couple of beers and start reading.

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yeah, i know it was a hard to answer question. i just wanted to know like what type of axle to look for and stuff like that. is it possible to have a solid axle with close to stock height? im not really looking for a dedicated wheeler, just a good solid 4wd pickup, kinda something different. my buddy is doing his pathfinder right now and he just told me how lucky i am to have a gen three ranger compared to something with torsion bars. but thanks guys
Gen 3 Rangers are much easier to SAS then 98+ Rangers (or so I'm told) but that still doesn't make it easy. Personally, if your not building an off-road Ranger, I'd never debate doing an SAS.

Simply get a SAS factory truck like an old F-250 or something.

However, if you really want to SAS it, I'd look at Griggs (n3elz) CarDomain. He's not really around R-F anymore, but his sat pretty low for a SAS'ed rig. He basically flat out swapped everything off a F-150 and made it fit a Ranger. Turned out pretty good if I remember right.

CarDomain: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/296394

I don't think he ever really did a Build Thread on here... so if you search for SAS and post by "n3elz" it should find some info, but his CarDomain is laid out nicely for info.
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Hey my first and second were both pathys.

You can keep close to stock but if its not a dedicated wheeler and your not planning on lift its almost why bother. granted my pathys where both dd but I did lift the hell outta them.
The gen 3 is much easier to swap vs a new style with t-bars.
Take a look at 05prerunners build.

As far as axles go you need to decide how much work you want to put into it, what type of suspension and so on. Then you can pick the axle to go along, or find and axle for a good deal and go completely custom cutting and welding perches for you preffered suspension type, leafs or coils. On a gen 3 Coils will be the easiest setup.

Steering is another issue to be dealt with.

Look into how other people set it up, spend alot of time researching.
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Daniel did his and sat REAL low for a sas'd truck.. i cant go find his thread right now though.
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thanks guys. for you that say i should just get a fullsize, that would defeat the purpose of having a small truck. i just want to build a SOLID truck, and noting that i said this would be in the way future, so i might not even have the truck then. thanks tho guys
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Get a Ford Early Bronco. They're small and awesome and solid axle :)

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i would love to have one. my dad knows this one guy who has the pickup model and he only uses it for hunting. its soooooooo nice
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Hey I say do what you want its your truck and your money and time. You have to make you happy. Like some of the others have said tho just look around on here and the other forums like ranger station also. There are alot of good examples of how guys did sas to their trucks. I would say if you want to do it get a d44 from an older bronco that will be the easiest swap for you, but look around and chose what you like.
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Stick with the TTB. What motor do you have? If you have a 4.0 then you have the D35 TTB, which will take what ever you can throw at it with a stock truck. If you have a 3.0V6 or 4cyl (4cyl had the hybrid but not all 3.0's did) you may or may not have the D35 you may have a D28/D35 hybrid in which case find a D35 to bolt into your truck.
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i will agree with you buya27, i am the only one that can make me happy. thanks for the tip.

i have a 4.0 so it sound slike i got a good setup
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Loren.... Take a drive a little south to Shoreline and meet up with Welcome2knoxville or however his SN is spelled out. He just finished his solid swap using like '79 bronco parts on his pre-97 Ranger.
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is that a d44 then? and yeah, thats not even that far away, it would take me a little over an hour, but lke i say, that would be in the future when my truck is wore out and i have the ranger that i really really want- gen 2 with 4.0, super cab, 4x4, thanks fx4wannabe01

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is that a d44 then? and yeah, thats not even that far away, it would take me a little over an hour, but lke i say, that would be in the future when my truck is wore out and i have the ranger that i really really want- gen 2 with 4.0, super cab, 4x4, thanks fx4wannabe01
It is a D44 but its about 5" wider then a rangers stock setup.
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