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blackbetty 01-02-2007 05:53 PM

hubs dubsy a hubs a dubs, oh yea HUBS!
 
ok well as soon as the lift is done im also gettin the hubs swapped out for manual ones, bbuuuttt when i checked the warn website i saw that they only make standard manual locking hubs, nothin premium for the ranger. my question is, can you get premium hubs from a jeep and use them on a ranger or can you only get standard hubs? and how good are they also?

lifted97ranger 01-02-2007 07:32 PM

nope.....the hubs for a Ranger are flange type hubs....they are a different style of hub......

here is a Ranger hub....it is a MileMarker, but the same design as Warn....(if you get a set of MileMarkers from AutoZone they have a lifetime guarantee)
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...ge/mmk-428.jpg

here is a premium hub like you are talking about....
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...mk-449ss_w.jpg

the type for the Ranger go on the wheel studs behind the wheel....the wheel itself actually holds it on....with the Ranger kit you will also need the conversion nut kit....

TireIron 01-03-2007 08:00 PM

just one word of advice, if you are going to buy the warn manual hubs, don't buy the ranger part number, but get part number 37780. it is virtually identical, but it is made out of better materials. it is the hub that is included in the jeep conversion kit. you also dont need to spend extra money on the special conversion nut kit, just go to an auto parts store and get 2 spindle nut kits for a ranger. instead of 45 bucks you will spend about 5 for each kit.

EricTodd 01-03-2007 08:10 PM

I used the Warn hubs that are part number 29071 and went through CLEMSON to get the conversion kit, they take paypal and it's made by Spicer and that's who makes the original equipment not Ford. So this is the real hardware that would come on a factory manual locking hub setup.

blackbetty 01-03-2007 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by TireIron
just one word of advice, if you are going to buy the warn manual hubs, don't buy the ranger part number, but get part number 37780. it is virtually identical, but it is made out of better materials. it is the hub that is included in the jeep conversion kit. you also dont need to spend extra money on the special conversion nut kit, just go to an auto parts store and get 2 spindle nut kits for a ranger. instead of 45 bucks you will spend about 5 for each kit.


thats what i heard jus forgot how it was worded...lol so when i go to my truck shop i give him that part number from warn and order it? whats the difference between the "special" conversion kit and the spindle nut kit from the auto parts store?

lifted97ranger 01-03-2007 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by TireIron
just one word of advice, if you are going to buy the warn manual hubs, don't buy the ranger part number, but get part number 37780. it is virtually identical, but it is made out of better materials. it is the hub that is included in the jeep conversion kit. you also dont need to spend extra money on the special conversion nut kit, just go to an auto parts store and get 2 spindle nut kits for a ranger. instead of 45 bucks you will spend about 5 for each kit.

good info....i couldn't remember the part # so i didnt want to lead him on a wild goose chase...

TireIron 01-04-2007 09:08 PM

the difference between the "special" conversion nut kit and the spindle nut kit from an autoparts store is about 40 bucks. the auto parts stores sell the usual spicer spindle nut kits, NAPA is a good place to get them at, I cant remember the exact part number for the spindle nuts though. another option is to go by a pull it yourself junk yard and grab the inner and outter nut and lock washer from each side off of a truck with manual hubs. last time i pulled a set myself they didnt even charge me anything for them.

blackbetty 01-04-2007 09:44 PM

ok so today i ordered the hubs....$240, gave the guy that part number you told me and he said in that kit it already includes the spindle nut conversion, now will that work for the ranger or no?

blackbetty 01-05-2007 09:07 PM

woot got the warn hubs today, now when i ordered them the shop guy said in the kit should come with the nut conversion in it, when i opened i found nothing but hubs, so im guessin that all i do is remove the springs, half clip and slide that crap off but keep the the nut on there? i put the hubs on, locked em and i couldnt spin them by hand, unlocked and they spun, is that all or am i missing somthing? ill post pics tmw, its too late now and my parents wanna sleep... :shrug:

lifted97ranger 01-05-2007 10:57 PM

you need the different nuts for the manual hubs.......hopefully you didn't use the auto hub nuts.....

blackbetty 01-05-2007 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
you need the different nuts for the manual hubs.......hopefully you didn't use the auto hub nuts.....


no not yet i have the front apart so i can replace the u-joints and do the u-joint mod. looks like im making a trip to the parts store tmw.

lifted97ranger 01-05-2007 11:08 PM

awwww good call!

blackbetty 01-05-2007 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
awwww good call!


:104[1]:

blackbetty 01-06-2007 07:45 AM

ok for the spindle nut conversion, could i just use one off an f-150 or bronco or exploder that has manual hubs? and wat are the parts that i actually need?? none of my parts store has them in stock and cant get them till monday and i wont be here monday and need to get them done before i leave.

blackbetty 01-06-2007 08:40 AM

anyone?????

TireIron 01-06-2007 03:49 PM

an explorer yes, the full size has larger spindles i think so the f-series wouldnt work. you want the nuts from a 90-97 ranger or a 91-94 explorer with manual locking hubs. the 83-90 ranger may also be the same nuts, I forget if the D28 uses the same spindles though... and if the parts store you went to doesnt have em, try a different store if youre able to.

blackbetty 01-06-2007 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by TireIron
an explorer yes, the full size has larger spindles i think so the f-series wouldnt work. you want the nuts from a 90-97 ranger or a 91-94 explorer with manual locking hubs. the 83-90 ranger may also be the same nuts, I forget if the D28 uses the same spindles though... and if the parts store you went to doesnt have em, try a different store if youre able to.



i tried every single part store and all of them have to order the part in... :thumbsdow

lifted97ranger 01-06-2007 05:58 PM

that sux...

blackbetty 01-06-2007 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
that sux...


big time! when i come back though im goin to straight to the wreckers gettin a driveshaft from a 98+ ranger and hubs nuts and stuff, and anything else that can fit in my pocket... :bandit: usually they dont bother ringing through small parts so i might get lucky and score the hubs nuts for free! so let me get this straight all i need is 2 spindle/spanner nuts and 1 washer?

lifted97ranger 01-06-2007 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by blackbetty
big time! when i come back though im goin to straight to the wreckers gettin a driveshaft from a 98+ ranger and hubs nuts and stuff, and anything else that can fit in my pocket... :bandit: usually they dont bother ringing through small parts so i might get lucky and score the hubs nuts for free! so let me get this straight all i need is 2 spindle/spanner nuts and 1 washer?

you need 4 spindle nuts and 2 washers......2 nuts and 1 washer per side...

blackbetty 01-06-2007 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
you need 4 spindle nuts and 2 washers......2 nuts and 1 washer per side...


thats what i meant... :tapedshut so how come theres 2 spindle nuts per side now instead of one?

lifted97ranger 01-06-2007 06:19 PM

extra security i guess........kinda like double nutting a bolt....if one comes off, then you still have 1 there to hold it on...

blackbetty 01-06-2007 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
extra security i guess........kinda like double nutting a bolt....if one comes off, then you still have 1 there to hold it on...



extra security is nice but would the stock spindle nut really come off even with that key in there? so is that the only reason you need the spindle nut kit?

lifted97ranger 01-06-2007 07:22 PM

on the manual hubs there is not key in there.

TireIron 01-07-2007 07:34 PM

on manual hubs you adjust the inner nut like you would to set the bearings (25 ft-lbs while spinning rotor, back off 1/4 turn, then tighten to 16 IN-lbs) then you place the lock washer on it, then you tighten the outter nut to about 200-250 ft-lbs... you just really crank down on the outter nut. the outter nut is what keeps the inner from coming loose on the wheelbearings.


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