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Lunch box VS Full carrier

Ever since i drove that TJ this weekend, i want 3 things..

A Jeep
A Locked instead of a spooled front axle
anddd coil suspension

welp, the yeep is outa the question, and coils are already underway.. which leaves the locker.

I'm undecided if i want an ARB or not, but for now I'm torn between getting an open diff ($60) and putting a lunch box locker in it (~$250).. grand total of $300-$350

Option 2 is a full carrier Detroit, $560..

whats your opinion?

please speak only if you have a clue what your talking about, kthx
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You're hard on your stuff man. Detroit all the way.



BUUUUUTTTT what don't you like about your spool?
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it was soooo nice to be able to steer that jeep, yet still have the traction i needed to make the hills and rocks w/o mashing on it! haha

he only had a lucnhbox in the front, but I'm leaning towards the full carrier, since I'll probably have the 44 for the long run so i might as well get **** thats gonna last.


which pushes me closer to the ARB, If I'm already spending that much more why not save a few hundred more for an ARB
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Knowing the way you wheel I would just go ahead and get a carrier locker. I highly recommend the ARB, but if you don't want to spend the money I would go with a Detroit. I think you wheel to hard to not break a lunchbox locker.
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i dont get why your going thought hubs dont they make some that are better quality so you dont keep breaking them
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dude we had this discussion the other night. lunchbox. i have my reasons. ask austin and robert. they will agree
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i dont get why your going thought hubs dont they make some that are better quality so you dont keep breaking them
i went through the last few hubs because the outer hub that bolts to the rotor was fawked.. I have Warn Premiums, I just took apart the driver hub today and somehow destroyed it :(

i never really put any thought into it since it always worked.. but i have a new hub/rotor in my truck, just gotta throw it on the lathe at work tomorrow and put it on.
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dude we had this discussion the other night. lunchbox. i have my reasons. ask austin and robert. they will agree
haha, was this saturday night?
you know i was completely useless that night, oh wait, no you left before i had too much to drink.. i dont remember this talk?

what were your reasons? Jon was telling me when a detroit breaks.. it makes for a badddd day.

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Matt......I think you'd find the weak link in the carrier with a lunchbox locker......and I don't think it would be the first time a carrier let you down.
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Matt......I think you'd find the weak link in the carrier with a lunchbox locker......and I don't think it would be the first time a carrier let you down.
thats what worries me


Is it the e-locker or ected that you have to get rebuilt?
the e-locker is priced up with the ARB and the ected is about 70 more than the detroit.
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this is what we talked about the other night and austin just reiterated it to me...

austin talking
tell him no arb because just about sooo many of them have problems, either electrical with the switch or the compressor, or a leak in the line or inside hte case so its constantly on and off and on and off or it looses pressure and won't stay on.
get a lunchbox locker and save for a freaking 60
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lol

I kinda want to just wait on a 60, but i want to wheel until then, and this spool is a biach.
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get the lunchbox! do it! homo... just do it. dont make me show you up again
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Full detroit for a D60.. 539
Full detroit for a D44.. 579
...wtf?
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get the lunchbox! do it! homo... just do it. dont make me show you up again
yea, that was pretty annoying
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haha sucka! im thinkin about puttin a lunchbox in mine. well see though... that and coilovers and man i might hang with them a bit better next time..
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first off your gonna need a carrier. because there is a carrier break, unless you go full locker.

I got my aussie for 80 bucks off pirate. keep an eye out everyone is selling crap on there.
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first off your gonna need a carrier. because there is a carrier break, unless you go full locker.

I got my aussie for 80 bucks off pirate. keep an eye out everyone is selling crap on there.
I had a carrier quoted in my first post haha
Complete offroad sells then for 3.92-5.89 and up for $59
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And our shop has that fancy tool for taking off the bearings on the pinion and carrier w/o damaging them.. sooo I guess i can take a stab at setting them up at my self.
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The E-locker is gear driven and won't need rebuilt. The ECTED is the clutch driven one. I've had no problems with my e-locker, but the warranty clearly states it is void if you run larger than stock tires which is retarded since they know you'll be running larger tires but whatever. I guess if you really want a d60 then yeah just get the lunchbox locker. No sense spending all that money on a full carrier replacement when you're gonna upgrade anyways.
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... and no alloy shafts to save money.

i need to make this decision, soon. 60 or no 60, 60 or no 60.. grrr

034x4 is running a D44, with 38s, a 4.0, yukons and CTMs and claims to not have any issues, I don't really plan to go above a 37, maybe a 38...

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No ected. You won't like it for your use as the clutch packs will wear.
I've seen detroits break in Jeeps, I haven't seen the lunchbox lockers break yet (as long as they are set up properly).
I say either go lunchbox locker (I'm betting you can find a used one too), or go all the way for an ARB. The detroit is spendy for an automatic locker. Aussie is generally pretty good with warranty stuff if it's new also...
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dude beef up the d44 for now and just wheel it. then save up later on after you finish the rest of the truck for the 60... you know this. just need some encouragement
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dude beef up the d44 for now and just wheel it. then save up later on after you finish the rest of the truck for the 60... you know this. just need some MONEY
fixed it for ya

I want Moser Alloys, (i heard Yukon can be flaky on their warranty swaps?).. buttt its $1100 for those and CTMs, anddddddd it leaves it as strong as a stock 60 shaft wise, but still have the smaller/weaker ring gear, and ball joints.

IF i get an ARB, it will be ran off the power tank, so the only thing that can go wrong is a leak in the lines..

Is the e-locker the one you can pull out of the axle an manually lock if the wiring gets screwy? so you don't get stranded.. if so I'm sold on that for what ever axle i choose to keep.
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i'm gonna have to say lunch box, im running one now, i dont have a d44 under my truck. . yet.
And i only spent 150 for my locker. and yes its used.
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