got me some HIDS
Now argue with me that "OMG when people like you are driving towards me the light is blinding me and I can't see". And the response will be to quit staring into my headlights like a moron, you deserve to crash into a concrete pole if you do that. Now say "OMG when people like you are behind me its too bright in my mirrors". And the response will be to move the hell over or speed up, if you don't like it there are other lanes on the road. IDGAF if they bother other people, I'd almost like it if mine glared a little more so that way more people who can't drive would get the hell out of my way at night.
Anything else?
Not true. HID's come in plenty of vehicles with reflector housings (think Prius, older Escalade, older Acuras, etc). And if anything its best to have them in the normal reflector housing in trucks. The projectors focus the light a lot more and a lot broader and more evenly which is good with cars, but with trucks the cutoff is usually gonna be too high and will make that more focused light shine in everyones eyes even more. Plus people who load up their bed with stuff and then drive at night are just making the cutoff THAT much higher. For you to have projectors in a truck that wouldn't blind everyone you would have to put them down low and they would have to be self leveling. Anything else and they will be more in peoples eyes than they would be if they were in the stock reflectors unless you aimed them down which would defeat the purpose of them and their added output.
Now argue with me that "OMG when people like you are driving towards me the light is blinding me and I can't see". And the response will be to quit staring into my headlights like a moron, you deserve to crash into a concrete pole if you do that. Now say "OMG when people like you are behind me its too bright in my mirrors". And the response will be to move the hell over or speed up, if you don't like it there are other lanes on the road. IDGAF if they bother other people, I'd almost like it if mine glared a little more so that way more people who can't drive would get the hell out of my way at night.
Anything else?
Now argue with me that "OMG when people like you are driving towards me the light is blinding me and I can't see". And the response will be to quit staring into my headlights like a moron, you deserve to crash into a concrete pole if you do that. Now say "OMG when people like you are behind me its too bright in my mirrors". And the response will be to move the hell over or speed up, if you don't like it there are other lanes on the road. IDGAF if they bother other people, I'd almost like it if mine glared a little more so that way more people who can't drive would get the hell out of my way at night.
Anything else?
Marcus....just wait til you're running 6000k's in both heads and fogs....i just drove my truck after installing my new fog kit...OH MY GOSH WOW. I can't believe I went this long without having foglamps!!!
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That would be a great rant if it made sense. Yes it is true not all HIDs come in projectors, I think some maximas have HIDs in reflector housings. They do tend to glare more than those in projectors, but they are legal and DOT certified.
The thought that broadly cast glare is better than focused glare is retarded. Yes when bouncing or going over bumps and hills the light in your eyes would be a "smoother" transition from bright to "I'm Blind!!" But still the occasional flash of brightness is far less dangerous than constant illegal glare. It is retarded to thing otherwise. There is simply no justification for HIDs not in their proper housing, aimed correctly.
The loaded bed argument is a moot point. You make it sound as if people go around loading their vehicles with weight for the night to blind others. This, yes is the reason why OEM projectors normally are self leveling, but they are not required in the US yet, only in Europe. Some OEM HID equipped vehicles have an adjuster on the dash to adjust the lights accordingly. How often are people loaded up with cargo to the point where the light output is adjusted so that it is not aimed down or level?
Also, the stance of its my lights deal with it is total Bull as well. What you want to do would not distract or inhibit other peoples' driving ability. If you want more light, add fog lights or driving light for off-road use only.
This is just ridiculous to think it is so widely accepted for people to just pop a $50 Chinese set of HID in their stock housings and blind others with no regard to legality or safety. I cannot stand it when 99% of a forum applauds people for doing this. It is no different than street racing, heck it is worse because when in use it ALWAYS effects others. I have always felt, but never voiced my opinion on either locking or banning those who begin such retarded threads. This is in no way against the OP, he is cool in my book but I have looked past this has occurred too many times to not say something now that Korey is a lighting expert.
I am not looking to argue, just state the point of all those who care about not driving into you at night head-on while being blinded. Or if one of these A-hole is behind me, I drive like an equally retarded person, yet they will never know why because they think their blue light looks so cool broadcast all over the road and people in front of them. Drive at me with your illegal HIDs, I will continue to drive at you in your lane, blowing my train horns with my brights, strobes, and Q-Beam in your eyes. I will stoop that low. Try it.
Having knowledge of this travesty that is HIDs and knowing they are illegal, but using them is no different than hooking up with every single person you pass without a condom or any form of protection...prove the pull-out method works, sometime it does, but it doesn't always. I bet a disease or pregnancy will come of it...no different than blinding every oncoming motorist and pedestrian, one day you will either get a ticket or run into someone. :)
/end rant
The thought that broadly cast glare is better than focused glare is retarded. Yes when bouncing or going over bumps and hills the light in your eyes would be a "smoother" transition from bright to "I'm Blind!!" But still the occasional flash of brightness is far less dangerous than constant illegal glare. It is retarded to thing otherwise. There is simply no justification for HIDs not in their proper housing, aimed correctly.
The loaded bed argument is a moot point. You make it sound as if people go around loading their vehicles with weight for the night to blind others. This, yes is the reason why OEM projectors normally are self leveling, but they are not required in the US yet, only in Europe. Some OEM HID equipped vehicles have an adjuster on the dash to adjust the lights accordingly. How often are people loaded up with cargo to the point where the light output is adjusted so that it is not aimed down or level?
Also, the stance of its my lights deal with it is total Bull as well. What you want to do would not distract or inhibit other peoples' driving ability. If you want more light, add fog lights or driving light for off-road use only.
This is just ridiculous to think it is so widely accepted for people to just pop a $50 Chinese set of HID in their stock housings and blind others with no regard to legality or safety. I cannot stand it when 99% of a forum applauds people for doing this. It is no different than street racing, heck it is worse because when in use it ALWAYS effects others. I have always felt, but never voiced my opinion on either locking or banning those who begin such retarded threads. This is in no way against the OP, he is cool in my book but I have looked past this has occurred too many times to not say something now that Korey is a lighting expert.
I am not looking to argue, just state the point of all those who care about not driving into you at night head-on while being blinded. Or if one of these A-hole is behind me, I drive like an equally retarded person, yet they will never know why because they think their blue light looks so cool broadcast all over the road and people in front of them. Drive at me with your illegal HIDs, I will continue to drive at you in your lane, blowing my train horns with my brights, strobes, and Q-Beam in your eyes. I will stoop that low. Try it.
Having knowledge of this travesty that is HIDs and knowing they are illegal, but using them is no different than hooking up with every single person you pass without a condom or any form of protection...prove the pull-out method works, sometime it does, but it doesn't always. I bet a disease or pregnancy will come of it...no different than blinding every oncoming motorist and pedestrian, one day you will either get a ticket or run into someone. :)
/end rant
and trepaul its going to look like this just with a different tire and wheel combo.
Very nice counter rant chap.
It does make sense, if you don't understand you need to think a little bit harder, maybe go draw a picture of it to help you understand. You seemed to have typed up that entire rant without understanding the main point of what I said lol. You need to realize that trucks headlights tend to be higher than most cars headlights. Uhhhh you know what, I feel like I'm just repeating myself again. Let me draw you a picture, maybe it will make it easier to understand for you 
.
Maybe this will be easier to explain so that you will understand. The thick blue line represents the cutoff, and the painted in blue represents the light. In a TRUCK projectors are even worse than HID's in the stock housing (unless the truck is lowered, or maybe stock height if we are talking about little rangers). The whole point of projectors is to be able to aim them straight without blinding people, which works great in cars, but not TRUCKS. As I said before, the headlights are too high and if you aim them straight everyone in cars will be underneath the cutoff and will be getting blinded more than if they were drop in HIDs in a stock housing. Do you have any experience with drop in HIDs in 01+ rangers? Probably not, because then you would know that they don't glare bad at all, they aren't like other cars. Sure they glare a little but it's not that bad (not that I care lol) like a lot of other cars headlights are. Ok, back to arguing.
The loaded argument is not a "moot" point. People use their trucks for hauling stuff, sometimes that happens to be during the day, sometimes at night. Sometimes people leaving whatever they are hauling in their bed for a little while. People also tow trailers, which in turn make the tuck sag as if it was loaded (especially on rangers). Don't even try and tell me you've never seen anyone with a trailer at night, because unless you live in Bumfuk I know you have.
The argument of deal with it is not bull either. They aren't projectors, they won't be blinding EVERYONE around me. Only people who are directly in front of me kinda close and lower then I am. If you don't like it you can easily switch lanes, or, deal with it
.
It happens to widely accepted here on RF with regards to 01+ ranger headlights. Like I asked before, have you had any experience with a drop in kit on 01+ stock ranger headlights? If not then you really honestly have zero room to talk in this thread. What holds true for other headlights, doesn't hold true for all.
And LMAO @ this
Ok, you do that. And then you will get multiple tickets, and be at fault when you and the other hit. Come do it to me, I could use a totaled truck so that I can get something different instead of the ranger. Even even more lol's at your "I will stoop that low. Try it." e-threat.
And yes, I am a lighting expert. Just say the word and I'll post a copy of my certificate on here, no joke.
That would be a great rant if it made sense. Yes it is true not all HIDs come in projectors, I think some maximas have HIDs in reflector housings. They do tend to glare more than those in projectors, but they are legal and DOT certified.
The thought that broadly cast glare is better than focused glare is retarded. Yes when bouncing or going over bumps and hills the light in your eyes would be a "smoother" transition from bright to "I'm Blind!!" But still the occasional flash of brightness is far less dangerous than constant illegal glare. It is retarded to thing otherwise. There is simply no justification for HIDs not in their proper housing, aimed correctly.
The loaded bed argument is a moot point. You make it sound as if people go around loading their vehicles with weight for the night to blind others. This, yes is the reason why OEM projectors normally are self leveling, but they are not required in the US yet, only in Europe. Some OEM HID equipped vehicles have an adjuster on the dash to adjust the lights accordingly. How often are people loaded up with cargo to the point where the light output is adjusted so that it is not aimed down or level?
Also, the stance of its my lights deal with it is total Bull as well. What you want to do would not distract or inhibit other peoples' driving ability. If you want more light, add fog lights or driving light for off-road use only.
This is just ridiculous to think it is so widely accepted for people to just pop a $50 Chinese set of HID in their stock housings and blind others with no regard to legality or safety. I cannot stand it when 99% of a forum applauds people for doing this. It is no different than street racing, heck it is worse because when in use it ALWAYS effects others. I have always felt, but never voiced my opinion on either locking or banning those who begin such retarded threads. This is in no way against the OP, he is cool in my book but I have looked past this has occurred too many times to not say something now that Korey is a lighting expert.
I am not looking to argue, just state the point of all those who care about not driving into you at night head-on while being blinded. Or if one of these A-hole is behind me, I drive like an equally retarded person, yet they will never know why because they think their blue light looks so cool broadcast all over the road and people in front of them. Drive at me with your illegal HIDs, I will continue to drive at you in your lane, blowing my train horns with my brights, strobes, and Q-Beam in your eyes. I will stoop that low. Try it.
Having knowledge of this travesty that is HIDs and knowing they are illegal, but using them is no different than hooking up with every single person you pass without a condom or any form of protection...prove the pull-out method works, sometime it does, but it doesn't always. I bet a disease or pregnancy will come of it...no different than blinding every oncoming motorist and pedestrian, one day you will either get a ticket or run into someone. :)
/end rant
The thought that broadly cast glare is better than focused glare is retarded. Yes when bouncing or going over bumps and hills the light in your eyes would be a "smoother" transition from bright to "I'm Blind!!" But still the occasional flash of brightness is far less dangerous than constant illegal glare. It is retarded to thing otherwise. There is simply no justification for HIDs not in their proper housing, aimed correctly.
The loaded bed argument is a moot point. You make it sound as if people go around loading their vehicles with weight for the night to blind others. This, yes is the reason why OEM projectors normally are self leveling, but they are not required in the US yet, only in Europe. Some OEM HID equipped vehicles have an adjuster on the dash to adjust the lights accordingly. How often are people loaded up with cargo to the point where the light output is adjusted so that it is not aimed down or level?
Also, the stance of its my lights deal with it is total Bull as well. What you want to do would not distract or inhibit other peoples' driving ability. If you want more light, add fog lights or driving light for off-road use only.
This is just ridiculous to think it is so widely accepted for people to just pop a $50 Chinese set of HID in their stock housings and blind others with no regard to legality or safety. I cannot stand it when 99% of a forum applauds people for doing this. It is no different than street racing, heck it is worse because when in use it ALWAYS effects others. I have always felt, but never voiced my opinion on either locking or banning those who begin such retarded threads. This is in no way against the OP, he is cool in my book but I have looked past this has occurred too many times to not say something now that Korey is a lighting expert.
I am not looking to argue, just state the point of all those who care about not driving into you at night head-on while being blinded. Or if one of these A-hole is behind me, I drive like an equally retarded person, yet they will never know why because they think their blue light looks so cool broadcast all over the road and people in front of them. Drive at me with your illegal HIDs, I will continue to drive at you in your lane, blowing my train horns with my brights, strobes, and Q-Beam in your eyes. I will stoop that low. Try it.
Having knowledge of this travesty that is HIDs and knowing they are illegal, but using them is no different than hooking up with every single person you pass without a condom or any form of protection...prove the pull-out method works, sometime it does, but it doesn't always. I bet a disease or pregnancy will come of it...no different than blinding every oncoming motorist and pedestrian, one day you will either get a ticket or run into someone. :)
/end rant
.Maybe this will be easier to explain so that you will understand. The thick blue line represents the cutoff, and the painted in blue represents the light. In a TRUCK projectors are even worse than HID's in the stock housing (unless the truck is lowered, or maybe stock height if we are talking about little rangers). The whole point of projectors is to be able to aim them straight without blinding people, which works great in cars, but not TRUCKS. As I said before, the headlights are too high and if you aim them straight everyone in cars will be underneath the cutoff and will be getting blinded more than if they were drop in HIDs in a stock housing. Do you have any experience with drop in HIDs in 01+ rangers? Probably not, because then you would know that they don't glare bad at all, they aren't like other cars. Sure they glare a little but it's not that bad (not that I care lol) like a lot of other cars headlights are. Ok, back to arguing.
The loaded argument is not a "moot" point. People use their trucks for hauling stuff, sometimes that happens to be during the day, sometimes at night. Sometimes people leaving whatever they are hauling in their bed for a little while. People also tow trailers, which in turn make the tuck sag as if it was loaded (especially on rangers). Don't even try and tell me you've never seen anyone with a trailer at night, because unless you live in Bumfuk I know you have.
The argument of deal with it is not bull either. They aren't projectors, they won't be blinding EVERYONE around me. Only people who are directly in front of me kinda close and lower then I am. If you don't like it you can easily switch lanes, or, deal with it
.It happens to widely accepted here on RF with regards to 01+ ranger headlights. Like I asked before, have you had any experience with a drop in kit on 01+ stock ranger headlights? If not then you really honestly have zero room to talk in this thread. What holds true for other headlights, doesn't hold true for all.
And LMAO @ this
Drive at me with your illegal HIDs, I will continue to drive at you in your lane, blowing my train horns with my brights, strobes, and Q-Beam in your eyes. I will stoop that low. Try it.
And yes, I am a lighting expert. Just say the word and I'll post a copy of my certificate on here, no joke.
LOOK FOLKS!!! obvioulsy there are people here that agree with it and those that dont. It is what it is and will prob always be a disagreement from either side...SO with that said, i have HIDS in my truck...... I have reaimed them because my truck sits higher than stock. I have not once been flashed or given the finger or any of the above....lol!! BTW: korey i still want that brake check pleaase....LMOA!!!! 
LOOK FOLKS!!! obvioulsy there are people here that agree with it and those that dont. It is what it is and will prob always be a disagreement from either side...SO with that said, i have HIDS in my truck...... I have reaimed them because my truck sits higher than stock. I have not once been flashed or given the finger or any of the above....lol!! BTW: korey i still want that brake check pleaase....LMOA!!!!
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It does make sense, if you don't understand you need to think a little bit harder, maybe go draw a picture of it to help you understand. You seemed to have typed up that entire rant without understanding the main point of what I said lol. You need to realize that trucks headlights tend to be higher than most cars headlights. Uhhhh you know what, I feel like I'm just repeating myself again. Let me draw you a picture, maybe it will make it easier to understand for you .
Maybe this will be easier to explain so that you will understand. The thick blue line represents the cutoff, and the painted in blue represents the light. In a TRUCK projectors are even worse than HID's in the stock housing (unless the truck is lowered, or maybe stock height if we are talking about little rangers). The whole point of projectors is to be able to aim them straight without blinding people, which works great in cars, but not TRUCKS. As I said before, the headlights are too high and if you aim them straight everyone in cars will be underneath the cutoff and will be getting blinded more than if they were drop in HIDs in a stock housing. Do you have any experience with drop in HIDs in 01+ rangers? Probably not, because then you would know that they don't glare bad at all, they aren't like other cars. Sure they glare a little but it's not that bad (not that I care lol) like a lot of other cars headlights are. Ok, back to arguing.
The loaded argument is not a "moot" point. People use their trucks for hauling stuff, sometimes that happens to be during the day, sometimes at night. Sometimes people leaving whatever they are hauling in their bed for a little while. People also tow trailers, which in turn make the tuck sag as if it was loaded (especially on rangers). Don't even try and tell me you've never seen anyone with a trailer at night, because unless you live in Bumfuk I know you have.
The argument of deal with it is not bull either. They aren't projectors, they won't be blinding EVERYONE around me. Only people who are directly in front of me kinda close and lower then I am. If you don't like it you can easily switch lanes, or, deal with it.
It happens to widely accepted here on RF with regards to 01+ ranger headlights. Like I asked before, have you had any experience with a drop in kit on 01+ stock ranger headlights? If not then you really honestly have zero room to talk in this thread. What holds true for other headlights, doesn't hold true for all.
And LMAO @ this
Ok, you do that. And then you will get multiple tickets, and be at fault when you and the other hit. Come do it to me, I could use a totaled truck so that I can get something different instead of the ranger. Even even more lol's at your "I will stoop that low. Try it." e-threat.
And yes, I am a lighting expert. Just say the word and I'll post a copy of my certificate on here, no joke.
.Maybe this will be easier to explain so that you will understand. The thick blue line represents the cutoff, and the painted in blue represents the light. In a TRUCK projectors are even worse than HID's in the stock housing (unless the truck is lowered, or maybe stock height if we are talking about little rangers). The whole point of projectors is to be able to aim them straight without blinding people, which works great in cars, but not TRUCKS. As I said before, the headlights are too high and if you aim them straight everyone in cars will be underneath the cutoff and will be getting blinded more than if they were drop in HIDs in a stock housing. Do you have any experience with drop in HIDs in 01+ rangers? Probably not, because then you would know that they don't glare bad at all, they aren't like other cars. Sure they glare a little but it's not that bad (not that I care lol) like a lot of other cars headlights are. Ok, back to arguing.
The loaded argument is not a "moot" point. People use their trucks for hauling stuff, sometimes that happens to be during the day, sometimes at night. Sometimes people leaving whatever they are hauling in their bed for a little while. People also tow trailers, which in turn make the tuck sag as if it was loaded (especially on rangers). Don't even try and tell me you've never seen anyone with a trailer at night, because unless you live in Bumfuk I know you have.
The argument of deal with it is not bull either. They aren't projectors, they won't be blinding EVERYONE around me. Only people who are directly in front of me kinda close and lower then I am. If you don't like it you can easily switch lanes, or, deal with it
.It happens to widely accepted here on RF with regards to 01+ ranger headlights. Like I asked before, have you had any experience with a drop in kit on 01+ stock ranger headlights? If not then you really honestly have zero room to talk in this thread. What holds true for other headlights, doesn't hold true for all.
And LMAO @ this
Ok, you do that. And then you will get multiple tickets, and be at fault when you and the other hit. Come do it to me, I could use a totaled truck so that I can get something different instead of the ranger. Even even more lol's at your "I will stoop that low. Try it." e-threat.
And yes, I am a lighting expert. Just say the word and I'll post a copy of my certificate on here, no joke.
Sorry, I totally understand your point of lifted truck and projectors. This is the reason why my F-150 does not have HIDs or projectors. IMO there is no real solution to this issue, for truck and larger vehicles. I even find some Escalades to be too high and bright and they are legal.
I did have HIDs in my ranger and am one of the few (maybe only) that had semi-legal HIDs. I did a retrofit of FX projectors in my stock '03 housings. So yeah I have had plenty of experience with '01+ headlights in a ranger. Just because it is accepted does not make it right unfortunately.
Oh it your load sags, get a bigger truck or some load leveling bags as well as taking the load out (not always possible).
Oh and about the e-threat I apologize it it was too direct and personal. I just get so mad every night when I encounter retard folks with blinding blue lights. I guess my culmination of hatred for everyone else preaching how great HIDs are ended up down pouring on your parade. But I do really do that jack@ss kind of stuff if it is blatantly retarded like hugely lifted trucks with multiple sets of HIDs. So yeah I was a bit harsh but you do get the credit for being the lumen that broke my filament, lol.
So cheers, if you were legal I would buy you a beer. (Assuming you are 19 or 20 by the 89 designation in your SN, stalkerish I know :) ) Nice picture by the way...
Originally Posted by mossyoak03
mine are reaimed too and i don't care what anyone says about what i do to it in a negative way. its my truck. i haven't been flashed and HIDS aren't illegal in VA ill get a pic of a cop car that has them if i see him in the morning.
Last edited by yetti96; Jun 16, 2009 at 08:36 PM.
Sorry, I totally understand your point of lifted truck and projectors. This is the reason why my F-150 does not have HIDs or projectors. IMO there is no real solution to this issue, for truck and larger vehicles. I even find some Escalades to be too high and bright and they are legal.
I did have HIDs in my ranger and am one of the few (maybe only) that had semi-legal HIDs. I did a retrofit of FX projectors in my stock '03 housings. So yeah I have had plenty of experience with '01+ headlights in a ranger. Just because it is accepted does not make it right unfortunately.
Oh it your load sags, get a bigger truck or some load leveling bags as well as taking the load out (not always possible).
Oh and about the e-threat I apologize it it was too direct and personal. I just get so mad every night when I encounter retard folks with blinding blue lights. I guess my culmination of hatred for everyone else preaching how great HIDs are ended up down pouring on your parade. But I do really do that jack@ss kind of stuff if it is blatantly retarded like hugely lifted trucks with multiple sets of HIDs. So yeah I was a bit harsh but you do get the credit for being the lumen that broke my filament, lol.
So cheers, if you were legal I would buy you a beer. (Assuming you are 19 or 20 by the 89 designation in your SN, stalkerish I know :) ) Nice picture by the way...
I did have HIDs in my ranger and am one of the few (maybe only) that had semi-legal HIDs. I did a retrofit of FX projectors in my stock '03 housings. So yeah I have had plenty of experience with '01+ headlights in a ranger. Just because it is accepted does not make it right unfortunately.
Oh it your load sags, get a bigger truck or some load leveling bags as well as taking the load out (not always possible).
Oh and about the e-threat I apologize it it was too direct and personal. I just get so mad every night when I encounter retard folks with blinding blue lights. I guess my culmination of hatred for everyone else preaching how great HIDs are ended up down pouring on your parade. But I do really do that jack@ss kind of stuff if it is blatantly retarded like hugely lifted trucks with multiple sets of HIDs. So yeah I was a bit harsh but you do get the credit for being the lumen that broke my filament, lol.
So cheers, if you were legal I would buy you a beer. (Assuming you are 19 or 20 by the 89 designation in your SN, stalkerish I know :) ) Nice picture by the way...
It's cool, I like to strongly voice my opinion whenever possible
. I've also had much worse said to me and have said much worse to others, not a big deal either. And yep, I'm 19. If you would like to voice your opinion on anything else feel free to do so (expect politics) and I'll voice mine right back .I was hoping that you would have asked to see my lighting expert certificate tho, I was gonna draw something else on MS Paint and post it lol.
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It's cool, I like to strongly voice my opinion whenever possible . I've also had much worse said to me and have said much worse to others, not a big deal either. And yep, I'm 19. If you would like to voice your opinion on anything else feel free to do so (expect politics) and I'll voice mine right back .
I was hoping that you would have asked to see my lighting expert certificate tho, I was gonna draw something else on MS Paint and post it lol.
. I've also had much worse said to me and have said much worse to others, not a big deal either. And yep, I'm 19. If you would like to voice your opinion on anything else feel free to do so (expect politics) and I'll voice mine right back .I was hoping that you would have asked to see my lighting expert certificate tho, I was gonna draw something else on MS Paint and post it lol.
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