need help with rockslider fab - Ranger-Forums - The Ultimate Ford Ranger Resource


Fabrication & Tool Tech Need assistance with or ideas for custom metal fabrication? Want to show off your fabrication abilities or custom modifications? This is the sub-forum for you.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 04-03-2007
stockranger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: garden grove , ca
Posts: 410
need help with rockslider fab

since there are no vendors selling rocksliders and the local fab shop wants like 400 for a set of sliders i am just going to have to make my own .

THe problem is i know one guy with a bender and band saw , i know another guy who can weld it. how do i hold it all together to measure and fine tune etc .? If the welder was in the same spot I could weld the brackets to the frame then add one piece at a time .

this is the design i'm going for but the pieces going to the frame a little different.



I have also been thinking about putting a solid piece of diamond plate on the top side of the slider it go from the bottom rail to the top rail and all the way to each end and follow the curve, screw it on. So this way it will protect from brush and pointy rocks from coming up and hitting the vehicle in the area between the top and bottom rails ... I think it would look cool with black tubeing contrasted against the steel. the only thing it it will be hard to clean between the DP and the tube.

I'm not sure if i explained it well but who thinks the diamond plate would look good and who thinks it would look lame ?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-03-2007
redranger4.0's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Firey depths
Posts: 15
leave it open the slider will look 10235093450340 times better
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-03-2007
Rangerless's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 129
That would be cool. I would bolt to the frame not weld It is nice to be able to remove them for painting and repair. You could aways purchase a bender and bring it with you to the welder. This one should be enough for what you want you want to do and will sever for many more jobs down the road. Just my 2 cents.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44094
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-03-2007
gumby's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: indy
Posts: 1,581
thats a toughie. im guessin youre lookin for a way to hold things in place while you build connecting parts w/o havin a welder there to tack things together.....
furniture clamps and magnets are probly your best bets.


you could always jus build one piece at a time and drive back and forth
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-03-2007
DaGGer's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: East Windsor, CT
Posts: 919
I would just use the square tubing instead of having the round tubing. I think if you just let the square tubing stop right under the door you would have your rock slider and you wouldn't have to worry about the round tubing at all.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-04-2007
stockranger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: garden grove , ca
Posts: 410
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rangerless
That would be cool. I would bolt to the frame not weld It is nice to be able to remove them for painting and repair. You could aways purchase a bender and bring it with you to the welder. This one should be enough for what you want you want to do and will sever for many more jobs down the road. Just my 2 cents.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44094
it was my understanding i would need a hydraulic bender not a manual one . are you totaly sure that bender will do 1.5" steel tube .i know it says up to 2 inches but u can't trust harbor freight tools...if i could pick up a mig welder used for cheap hell i'd rather just take a welding class and start fabing myself till i get it right and hell then do a bumper and swing away tire out back .. I know i could make some cool stuff with some practice.

definently going with bolting to frame so i can touch up the paint

i'm not sure the thickness that is usualy used for bumpers and sliders etc.Im thinking 1/8" ?

I think its going to be rediculous trying to use clamps ....

when i fab the pieces they should fit snug against eachother ? what is the maximum gap between two pieces that would be acceptable for a strong weld? i know if there is a tiny gap the bead will just fill it up but not sure how big.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-04-2007
redranger4.0's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Firey depths
Posts: 15
you will need a TUBE bender to bend tube, not a PIPE bender. I just purchased my tube bender, but it cost me a pretty penny. 700 dollars.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-04-2007
redranger4.0's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Firey depths
Posts: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rangerless
That would be cool. I would bolt to the frame not weld It is nice to be able to remove them for painting and repair. You could aways purchase a bender and bring it with you to the welder. This one should be enough for what you want you want to do and will sever for many more jobs down the road. Just my 2 cents.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44094
that has a maximum bending size of 5/8" you need a true tube bender or tube will just kink in a pipe bender.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-04-2007
redranger4.0's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Firey depths
Posts: 15
http://www.pro-tools.com/105.htm

I just bought that. I actually bought the 105HD version with the thicker arms.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-04-2007
Rangerless's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 129
You are correct about that perticular bender will kink the pipe. This is due to the type of dye it uses.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-04-2007
Rangerless's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 129
Wow the Pro Tool bender is nice. That bender is still a pipe bender it say that right there in the sales information. These guys offer a nice tube/pipe bender http://www.vansantent.com/tube_bending_machines.htm
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-04-2007
INT3RC3PTOR's Avatar
Veteran Status Achieved
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minnesooooota
Posts: 8,203
^ yeah those work nice, the only crappy part is buying the dies that cost as much as the bender almost.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-04-2007
redranger4.0's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Firey depths
Posts: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rangerless
Wow the Pro Tool bender is nice. That bender is still a pipe bender it say that right there in the sales information. These guys offer a nice tube/pipe bender http://www.vansantent.com/tube_bending_machines.htm
its the same thing as a JD bender. It says pipe because you have to buy special pipe dies to bend pipe. I have tube dies for it aka tube bender.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-04-2007
redranger4.0's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Firey depths
Posts: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by INT3RC3PTOR
^ yeah those work nice, the only crappy part is buying the dies that cost as much as the bender almost.
my 1.75" 240* die cost me 260
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-04-2007
INT3RC3PTOR's Avatar
Veteran Status Achieved
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minnesooooota
Posts: 8,203
i might be thinking of getting yer setup Andrew, i'd want the full wrap 240 and i'm prolly gona be using 1.75 dom most of the time too.

when you get it and use it, let me know how you like it.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-04-2007
redranger4.0's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Firey depths
Posts: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by INT3RC3PTOR
i might be thinking of getting yer setup Andrew, i'd want the full wrap 240 and i'm prolly gona be using 1.75 dom most of the time too.

when you get it and use it, let me know how you like it.
The 240* die is defidently a must. the 120* die only lets you make 105* or so bends. the 240 allows for 180 degree bends. I cant wait to get it all setup and start bending.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-04-2007
cowboy63645's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Fredericktown, Missouri
Posts: 813
has anyone adapted a set of sliders to work with a 3" BL? Just curious as to how that would work. Would it make the slider less stable to move the slider farther up on the mounting bracket?
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-05-2007
redranger4.0's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Firey depths
Posts: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by cowboy63645
has anyone adapted a set of sliders to work with a 3" BL? Just curious as to how that would work. Would it make the slider less stable to move the slider farther up on the mounting bracket?
There really isnt any mounting brackets. Most sliders weld to the frame with legs. There are some that bolt on, but the weld on are much cleaner.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-05-2007
cowboy63645's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Fredericktown, Missouri
Posts: 813
ok, so basically, I move the attachment legs from the slider, up on the mounting bracket, and then add a little more bracing for support, and weld it to the frame, right? I am kind of new to rock sliders, but as many weird places I take my truck, I need them more than I want them lol. But as long as they do there job, I dont much mind how they look
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-05-2007
stockranger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: garden grove , ca
Posts: 410
thats just tooo mcuh money for me . I need like a used one or somehting. I can't believe the die is sooo expensive .
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 04-05-2007
redranger4.0's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Firey depths
Posts: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by stockranger
thats just tooo mcuh money for me . I need like a used one or somehting. I can't believe the die is sooo expensive .
They are CNC machined out of a solid chunk of metal.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-07-2007
stockranger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: garden grove , ca
Posts: 410
i was thinking if i got a bender i would get a 1.5" die .... would 1.75 maybe be a better choice for bumpers , rocksliders, general body protection.

there is a used jd bender on ebay with 3 dies and a hole saw notcher it has the stand the stop ring etc etc . Its at 690$ but reserve not met .problem is its pickup only.

Last edited by stockranger; 04-07-2007 at 02:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-07-2007
redranger4.0's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Firey depths
Posts: 15
1.75 is pretty standard for cages and stuff. 1.5" would be the next most popular die.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 11-05-2009
orange-ranger's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cloverdale
Posts: 77
just bought a JD squared model 3 with 1.5 die over 700 canadian pumped too start on my sliders and bumpers just need money for steel. i have a feeling it is a investment i wont regret
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 11-05-2009
Downey's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Muncy, PA
Posts: 8,470
why did you bring up a 2 year old thread
Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
suspension fab help BLACK00 Suspension Tech 13 07-12-2009 04:19 PM
Fab Work Done... Now I Need More Power rangerprerunner 2.9L & 3.0L V6 Tech 38 06-27-2008 08:26 PM
southern CA metal fab ? stockranger Fabrication & Tool Tech 6 02-15-2006 11:53 PM
Another Fab. Request soccerjohn Fabrication & Tool Tech 9 10-27-2005 06:20 PM
Which Should i got with Fab. or Pro Jack Sparrow Suspension Tech 13 08-07-2005 08:19 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:25 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.