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2011 1 ton chev vs ford diesel test colorado

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I saw this a few days ago. It has been discussed previously as Ford declined the competition. The 6.7L doesn't perform as well at altitude, some speculation has been made that it is all in the tuning, but who knows.
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Saw it a few days ago as well.

And the conclusion.........still doesn't change my mind about not buying a chevy lol.
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Yup, still rather have the ford.
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Saw it a few days ago as well.

And the conclusion.........still doesn't change my mind about not buying a chevy lol.
me neither. until the chevy HD's include a real big boy truck suspension id never consider one. IFS in a 3/4 or 1 ton truck is an epic fail in my book. not to mention they are *** ugly.
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id still never buy a chevy
out of the 7 cars/trucks ive owned 5 of them have been fords, as you can tell im a ford guy threw and threw and thats never gonna change
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If you notice, Ford declined to take part/provide a truck in the challange. GM supplied their own and the Ford . . .

Two minute delay on the uphill. Either the Chevy was tweaked or the Ford had an issue because for having near identical power levels that's about as fishy test results as could be.

I'd still prefer the Ford, even if the test was true.
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I think it's a P.R spin for chevrolet, since it was them doing the test.

I'm just basing that on what I read in the article. Seeing as I will never have use for either, it's a moot point for me.
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If you notice, Ford declined to take part/provide a truck in the challange. GM supplied their own and the Ford . . .

Two minute delay on the uphill. Either the Chevy was tweaked or the Ford had an issue because for having near identical power levels that's about as fishy test results as could be.

I'd still prefer the Ford, even if the test was true.

The high altitude difference has been noticed and brought up before, I believe it is accurate actually. The only thing I can say is that some people speculate about rear end ratios. That equal gearing in the axle doesn't always mean an equal truck as each engine/transmission behaves differently.

If you retested similar trucks with a variety of gear ratios, would the strongest ford beat the strongest chevy? Who knows.

It could just as easily have something to do with a less efficient turbo or simply tuning. If I recall currently the high altitude may be the only place where the chevy comes out ahead, could be wrong.

As for the exhaust brake, kind of an unfair comparison in a way as they are designed to work differently. Personally I would prefer the manual brake like the chevy, but ford designed theirs to be hands off. So counting how many times they hit the brakes is stupid. The ford is designed to downshift and exhaust brake after tapping the brakes.
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Or someone thought they had the Ford to the floor and it wasn't.
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Or someone thought they had the Ford to the floor and it wasn't.
I'm sitting in a coffee shop waiting to go back to jury duty so I cant find it, but I'm nearly positive that this result has been shown by a third party before. In that instance the gearing wasn't the same in both trucks (forget what they were) but the chevy beat the ford at extremely high altitude like this.

So if your primary concern when buying a truck is having a full on race up a big mountain at very high altitude with a huge trailer, the chevy may be the choice. lol
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Lol. Although it would be a primary concern of mine to pass everyone with a loaded truck and trailer, no way will I shell out 50K to do it, that and they can keep their dash rattle equipped Chevy.
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stupid chevy......ill give them this though, the new front end looks nicer than the previous years
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LOL @ $55k trucks and they don't even have leather


I'd much rather take the Chevy over that Ford, although I prefer the GMC's. The Chevy interior is much much nicer than the Ford and not all gaudy like it either. The Ford looks like a retarded pig too, I think the headlights and grill are too small and not chrome enough. I do agree on Chevy needing to make the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks SFA.
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LOL @ $55k trucks and they don't even have leather
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The Chevy interior is much much nicer than the Ford and not all gaudy like it either.
same here...chevy has started to make really nice interiors...they used to be junk but now they are real nice
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chevy has started to make really nice looking interiors...they used to be junk but now they are real nice looking junk
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No the Chevy interiors are not nice. They appear to look nice initially, but they are built horribly. My boss has a few Chevy trucks (not just at the coal mines but also personal trucks) and they all start to rattle like crazy in a short time. Just from daily driving and some gravel roads. I guess if you never leave pavement they are okay but they are just not held together well in my experience. I actually don't think the Ford or the Chevy pickup interiors look at all "gaudy".

Blame the government for the $50k+ trucks without leather. The diesel option on new trucks carry a HUGE price because of all the new stricter emissions laws. I built a very well equipped F350 on Ford's website yesterday (F350 crew cab, short bed, fx4 lariat, 6.2L gas, leather, etc) in the upper 40's. After rebates and close to invoice it would be upper 30's or low 40's out the door.

I don't foresee any of the manufacturers selling as many diesels in previous years. They are just way too expensive unless you really are hauling a bunch of weight every day. I have heard from people who have sat in conferences with Ford rep's (mostly big fleet operators), who said that Ford advises them to buy the 6.2L trucks unless it is absolutely necessary to have a diesel. The cost of the engine, emissions equipment, oil changes and maintenance etc just doesn't justify them in most cases. A brand new 6.2L gas engine can be had for not that much money, and the rest of the truck is the same. It is cheaper to just throw a new gas engine in every now and again.
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haha that's right. Nice looking junk.
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haha that's right. Nice looking junk.
and even thats a stretch. nicer looking junk than what they used to make maybe. id still put GM way behind on there interiors, even dodge has nicer interiors than GM now and thats really saying something.
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The ford is so overdone. Ford has gotten really stupid lately with their over the top designs on the trucks. They keep getting worse with each update, where as to me the GM's just get better looking. The older GM interiors were horrible and I hated GM for the longest time because of it. But now look at the GMC, everything is nice and clean looking. Nothing over the top like the Ford and it's just a clean subtle looking interior.
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button overload in the ford lol
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i still like the ford interior better.
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Yeah, the GM looks like a car dash. After 94 Ranger dashes are almost to car like for me.
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The GM dash isn't ugly, but I still like the Ford interior better. I'm sure that GM dash will be a rattle factory in less than 75k.
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The pictures are completely different colors as well. The black ford interior looks much better. And the tan/beige chevy interior looks much worse.
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