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Need oppionions on what to spend 6500 bucks on

2005 F150 SCREW FX4

OK, so I am giving myself a $6500 limit to spend on my f150.

I am going with the off road aspect with this 6500, then in a few years ill get the Super Charger.

So, i already have on my list:

6" fabtech Performance lift(dirt logic coilovers and shocks)
35X12.5R17 BFG KM2's(5 of them)
Bushwacker pocket style flares
Exhuast (havnt decided which way to go with this yet)
Gryphon tuner
Some sort of Intake?
Rat cage spare tire carrier

What else should i get?

the small stuff i can get over the insuing months, but 6500 is my limit for this BIG buy, so the big main essentials is my priority. However i dont want to be that guy that has the lift and tires, but nothing else.. This truck IS NOT a street queen. so it needs to look/function like its tough.

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It already has linex in the bed, so thats good to go. I will prob. end up keeping the stock wheels to save money, unless someone can find some 17" wheels (black) that will look good and are relatively cheep.( have to be aluminum.)
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Pass on intake, just do the Gotts mod. Thats a lot of cash to be dropping at one time, I would stick it in a bank and earn some interest on it and collect stuff over time.

Thats just me though
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Pass on intake, just do the Gotts mod. Thats a lot of cash to be dropping at one time, I would stick it in a bank and earn some interest on it and collect stuff over time.

Thats just me though
well ill make around 32K over the time i am gone. I am paying off all my misc. debt, dropping around 5-10k on the truck, putting around 7500 in the bank, and using the rest on the truck. whatever i have left after the 6500 budget ont he truck and everything else, ill put in the bank as well..
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Did you factor in aftermarket rims too? Or are you staying stock? I haven't looked into if the stock will work with the Fabtech lift or not
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Did you factor in aftermarket rims too? Or are you staying stock? I haven't looked into if the stock will work with the Fabtech lift or not
i was planning on staying stock, like i had said, i cant find a 17" wheel that i like. And i want to stay with the 17 for the price and sidewall benefits. i wish they made the XD monsters in 17"s
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So wait is the truck paid off?
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You need new wheels. The only lift that works with stock wheels is rancho.

I also wouldn't spend much money without regearing. So:
Gears
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you can always get a more basic lift kit and add coilovers and upper control arms later.
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Your bolt pattern is 6x135 right? Theres a million nice wheels for your truck in 17", just look on 4wheelparts

I think these would look sick
Pro Comp Xtreme Alloy Series 7033 - Flat Black

And cant you go bigger than 35s with the Fabtech? My neighbor has it on his truck and the coilovers I think he preloaded some more and did bigger blocks or something and made it into 8" lift. Hes got 36s but has plenty of room to go bigger. Don't forget gears front and back too.
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I think you can put a spacer on top of the coilover and run 37s
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I think you can put a spacer on top of the coilover and run 37s
You you can, or you can crank the coilovers.
Which either way is retarded in my opinion. If you want 8" of lift, there are at least two 8" lifts out there for it that will work with 37s without killing the ride.
I have ridden in F150s with cranked coilovers and it sucks, not what I would want for off-roading at all.
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Yeah I would never do it either, but it can be done.
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So I'll be looking at about $2500 with gears/lockers and install.

You can get 35x12.50R17 KM2s for $1520 for 5 of them at discount tire, plus wheels. Figure $2500 to be safe for mount/balance/shipping however you do it. Total of $5000 so far.

That leaves you with enough for a fairly basic lift that you could upgrade later. IMO tires, gearing and lockers are going to make a much bigger difference than coil-overs. I probably could have done a basic lift, with wheels and tires right now but I wanted gears and lockers, to be more functional.
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Your bolt pattern is 6x135 right? Theres a million nice wheels for your truck in 17", just look on 4wheelparts

I think these would look sick
Pro Comp Xtreme Alloy Series 7033 - Flat Black

And cant you go bigger than 35s with the Fabtech? My neighbor has it on his truck and the coilovers I think he preloaded some more and did bigger blocks or something and made it into 8" lift. Hes got 36s but has plenty of room to go bigger. Don't forget gears front and back too.
Holy crap i didnt see those, they are SICK.. def. the wheel im going with! thank you!
I dont want anything bigger than a 35. thats plenty big enough for me. this is why i was contemplating doing the rancho kit instead but they are about the same price.

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You you can, or you can crank the coilovers.
Which either way is retarded in my opinion. If you want 8" of lift, there are at least two 8" lifts out there for it that will work with 37s without killing the ride.
I have ridden in F150s with cranked coilovers and it sucks, not what I would want for off-roading at all.
Yeah, not going to 37's.. tooo much moolah. lol. not too mention this is my dd. it also has to be able to tow, and i have to be able to get my quad in the bed, so nothing bigger than 35's.

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So I'll be looking at about $2500 with gears/lockers and install.

You can get 35x12.50R17 KM2s for $1520 for 5 of them at discount tire, plus wheels. Figure $2500 to be safe for mount/balance/shipping however you do it. Total of $5000 so far.

That leaves you with enough for a fairly basic lift that you could upgrade later. IMO tires, gearing and lockers are going to make a much bigger difference than coil-overs. I probably could have done a basic lift, with wheels and tires right now but I wanted gears and lockers, to be more functional.
hmm.. I was under the impression that with a gryphon, intake and exhaust that the 3.73's were good? The install I can do myself (the guys here at the auto hobby shop are all ASE certified not to mention almost every f250 on the base is lifted with 40's. ), does the rancho kit come with new coilovers and upper control arms?\


HMMM.. i dont want to go with a crappy lift that i have to replace **** on later. I guess i dont need the BEST on the market, but def want something that is going to hold up to some abuse and mileage. and i can get 5 km2's for 1300 shipped from onlinetires.com.
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IIRC the Rancho kit is just a spacer. I would go ahead and do gears if your doing a full lift, it'll make it a lot nicer to drive. When its stock with 35s its not really bad but when you lift the truck up and ruin the aerodynamics even more I would just go ahead and do it. Its really your call though, you can always run with the 3.73s for a while and see how it is.
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IIRC the Rancho kit is just a spacer. I would go ahead and do gears if your doing a full lift, it'll make it a lot nicer to drive. When its stock with 35s its not really bad but when you lift the truck up and ruin the aerodynamics even more I would just go ahead and do it. Its really your call though, you can always run with the 3.73s for a while and see how it is.
hmmm. i thought it was a COMPLETE kit.. I guess not.. Yeah, i want to get rid of the spacer's, this is for sure. SO i have to have new coilovers. new UCA's would def. be nice as well
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Well that still is a complete kit, its just like the Fabtech Stage 1 kit.
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Well that still is a complete kit, its just like the Fabtech Stage 1 kit.
hmmm... Dam, this isnt as simple as I had planned haha.. Sometimes i miss my Ranger for this exact reason, I already had it lifted and everything..
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The Rancho kit comes with new, longer shocks up front. Either 5000 or 9000 series depending on how you order it. I'm not a huge fan of Rancho shocks personally.
Fabtech basic lift comes with new front shocks as well.
Superlift basic uses a spacer.
ProComp basic uses a spacer.
Rough Country uses a spacer.
None of the kits will come with new upper or lower control arms.

You can get coilovers for any of the lifts, some from the company that makes the lift but you can order King, Sway a Way, Icon, whatever.
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Personally my plan, and probably the next big change to my truck will be a superlift 4.5" lift (which uses a spacer), 5 - 17x9" wheels and 5 - 35x12.50R17s. I'll use my bilsteins up front (set without the 2" lift) with the kit spacers initially. Later on I'll order coilovers and camburg upper control arms.
Unless I come up with a bunch of money at once I'll do it all.
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The Rancho kit comes with new, longer shocks up front. Either 5000 or 9000 series depending on how you order it. I'm not a huge fan of Rancho shocks personally.
Fabtech basic lift comes with new front shocks as well.
Superlift basic uses a spacer.
ProComp basic uses a spacer.
Rough Country uses a spacer.
None of the kits will come with new upper or lower control arms.

You can get coilovers for any of the lifts, some from the company that makes the lift but you can order King, Sway a Way, Icon, whatever.

Thanks Brian. I appreciate all the patience and help, its kind of frustrating having to relearn all this stuff. I pretty much had my Ranger down pat. the F150, well im back to square one nooobage lol

And holy hell i can get the rancho kit with the rs9000 shocks for 1500 shipped. WOW. Not sure if thats including the $500 debit card or if thats just their sale price, been on hold with them for like 10 min. (4wheelonline.com)
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Personally my plan, and probably the next big change to my truck will be a superlift 4.5" lift (which uses a spacer), 5 - 17x9" wheels and 5 - 35x12.50R17s. I'll use my bilsteins up front (set without the 2" lift) with the kit spacers initially. Later on I'll order coilovers and camburg upper control arms.
Unless I come up with a bunch of money at once I'll do it all.
yeah. well your truck will always be my favorite, mainly because of the white/black combo.. Sometimes i contemplate painting my rig white, but not sure how well that would go lol.. I like the DSG, but dam i LOVE a white truck with Black accents.
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The price of the Rancho with the rebate keeps getting my interest but it isn't the kit I really want. lol

This is one of my favorite F150s, minus the steps.
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That truck is so sexy, I was drolling over it yesterday
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The price of the Rancho with the rebate keeps getting my interest but it isn't the kit I really want. lol

This is one of my favorite F150s, minus the steps.
oh yes, i saw that over on f150online. Have you seen it with the new STEALTH steps? HOLY ****. they retract whenever the doors close and come out when yu open the doors, SOOOO nice..

Again, whenever i see the white/black trucks makes me want to paint mine haha. which kit do you want or is it the SL kit that you really want? Why the SL kit over the Rancho if i may ask/
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Those steps aren't new at all lol. I want some but not for 1300 dollars. I wish I knew if I was keeping my truck for a while or not. I really want to get rid of it soon and upgrade to a FX4. Should have just been patient before I got it and found exactly what I wanted.
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