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So I was talking to a friend of mine today telling him about the AAL I'm doing tonight. He mentioned that on his truck he uses an adjustable rear air bag suspension helper when he tows with his dodge 1500.

I had never heard of the system and after looking into it, it looks like a very flexible adaptive system. More so than AAL because it's fully adjustable to either help or feel like its "not there".

I have all the AAL parts at home and was going to tackle the project tonight but I might switch ideas!

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Model: 59516
Mfr: Air Lift


Description
Keep your truck, SUV or van riding comfortably and smooth when hauling or towing with a Ride Control 59500 Series air helper spring by Air Lift. Many of today's vehicles are built with a more comfortable, car-like ride in mind. A Ride Control air bag will assist in solving your sagging suspension by providing up to 2,000 lbs. of level load capacity.
Air Lift Ride Control air helper springs are backed by a LIFETIME WARRANTY
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Lifetime warranty with no mileage restriction
Up to 2,000 pounds of leveling capacity
Air adjustable from 5 to 100 psi for maximum comfort to maximum load support.
Custom fit for your Ford Ranger 2WD & 4WD
Exclusive alignment tool and full illustrated instructions make installation easy!
Quick connecting, easy to use polymer air fittings
Every Air Lift kit is complete with air springs, air lines, brackets, fittings, hardware and instructions.


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Front or Rear Axle: REAR
Average Install Time: 1 - 2 hours
Drilling Required: NO
Load Capacity: 2,000 lbs.
Years: 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
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I've always wondered this myself. Never found much info on Ranger guys using anything like it though...
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My buddy has them on his halfton Chevy. They work about like you would think. Added a leveling kit, back was a little low. I air the bags up to 35psi, perfect. He has a large dogbox and toolbox full of tools back there also, 35psi was all it needed.
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I think Miller has them.
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I ordered that Kit. I think its a great system. esp being able to "turn it off" or "turn it up", i like the flexibility.

unfortunately, i have U-Bolts here from the dealer, and the AAL kit I bought for $65.00.
I can prob sell the AAL kit here on RF... but i sure hope ford will take back the U-Bolts that needed to be special ordered

this install looks really straight forward... drill 8 holes through the frame, affix the brackets, route the pipe, and set pressure.

Once i saw the frame has an open back over the axle i knew it would be cake.
The draw back to the AAL was driving around with an empty bed, with this system if i happen to do that, i can set it back to 'stock'. Or if i have a bed full of gear, tail gate extender out, plus say two bikes hanging off the trailer hitch on a 17" extension, i can bring it up a little.

The guy i was working with today hauls a heavy camper on his 1500 with a 5th wheel, he said when the camper is attached he sets them to 15 PSI and hes good to go. otherwise the truck would almost be bottomed out. Hopefully this will arrive next week and i can do the install before christmas.

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Could probably sell the U-bolts with the kit too.
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Could probably sell the U-bolts with the kit too.
duh, been up since 3am working... im def not firing on all cylinders... thank you STX for turning on the light bulb :)
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I think Miller has them.
as a matter of fact i do. and i absolutely love them. before my truck used to sag really bad with a full load of dense firewood. with these filled they will level the truck and then some. they do limit my flex just a bit when im wheeling but i can still stretch my rangers legs plenty. i highly recomend them.




flex with the bags filled.
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Morgan,
thanks so much for posting the photos! im stoked now!
any tips for the install?
where did you mount your, ummm, nipples? hehehe
anything i need to be aware of? the instructions look really straight forward. i got a T connector too so i'll have them tied together to one fill point
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I had the airlift kit on my Ranger for several years. Only advice is use some wire cover on the air lines. After a few years of flopping around they tend to wear a hole. I have seen a couple of the valves mounted on the bolt holes for the license plate which works well or I have mine mounted to the 7-Pin wire connector.
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My buddy has them on his 1500 Chevy and loves them. Looks like a good setup Morgan
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I had the airlift kit on my Ranger for several years. Only advice is use some wire cover on the air lines. After a few years of flopping around they tend to wear a hole. I have seen a couple of the valves mounted on the bolt holes for the license plate which works well or I have mine mounted to the 7-Pin wire connector.
Our parts truck has the valve stems for the air in the same place with some chrome caps. cant even tell.
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Morgan,
thanks so much for posting the photos! im stoked now!
any tips for the install?
where did you mount your, ummm, nipples? hehehe
anything i need to be aware of? the instructions look really straight forward. i got a T connector too so i'll have them tied together to one fill point
they were on the truck when i got it bu im sure its pretty straight forward. my air filler valves are on the sides of my rear bumper, on the sides of my license plate sockets.
see the shiny valve stem caps?

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I had the airlift kit on my Ranger for several years. Only advice is use some wire cover on the air lines. After a few years of flopping around they tend to wear a hole. I have seen a couple of the valves mounted on the bolt holes for the license plate which works well or I have mine mounted to the 7-Pin wire connector.
ive never had an issue with rubbing, ziptie the lines down to something.
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My buddy has them on his 1500 Chevy and loves them. Looks like a good setup Morgan
thanks man. lol. just took those pics too, jacked up the truck, no wheels to detail it.
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i have thought about a set of these for my truck but im afraid i would destroy them if i flexed the rear to hard off road
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Yeah i wonder if full suspension drop would damage them or not. And if you can use them with a lifted rear end.
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probably need a longer bag
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Leave it to Morgan to have them.

I need to jump on this, now I know they actually do work.
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when i was running ttb i used the coil version in soft coils to tune it for the street up front.























used the bags on several of my f/s rigs and install them often...awesome product.


theres several ways to mod them for flexibility.

i will eventually run them on my ranger so i can run softer spring then already out back but still be able to tow/haul unimpeded...
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^^^ little more mod info please
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Sounds like a pretty sweet truck but i think he is talking about mods to the air bags.
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he hehe, i can be a bit thick at times...

depends on type.


mostly in how they mount.


make a contact plate to ride on the ubolts with a cup so the bottom does not to be hard mounted....allows full down travel.
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Yeah i wonder if full suspension drop would damage them or not. And if you can use them with a lifted rear end.
they dont. and for a lifted rear end, blocks can be used, shackles can when a lift bracket is out on the bag.
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Leave it to Morgan to have them.

I need to jump on this, now I know they actually do work.
lol. yea they work great man.
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Sounds like a pretty sweet truck but i think he is talking about mods to the air bags.
Thank You!!!!
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If you go on airlifts website they have a chart that shows the different bags available, the extended length and the bracket spacing. I bought the longest air bags they had and flipped the upper mount 180.
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