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did a little off-roading..weird noise..

Well it has been raining all weekend and i wanted to do a little mudding down this dirt road so i went...it was real fun because i havent really gotten to do any mudding at all...When i got done i started to push the gas and i hear like a loud squeeking noise coming from the engine. It really sounds like the belt but i have no idea.

Sometimes when i get up in the morning it squeeks a little bit but this is still doing it. When i get up to like 55 mph i really dont hear it but when i idle or stop i hear it...its weird...maybe someone knows what it is...thanks :D
 
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hmm...Does it sound like your power sterring belt? When you turn the wheel, do you hear a slight whine?

Also, do you tuen the wheels when you are NOT moving? That is hard on the components and pump. Even if you are moving at one-foot-a-minute, it's easier. Even letting off the brake and letting the torque of the engine move you slightly will make the wear and tear MUCH less. Don't hold the steering wheel all the way locked either, let off a little to relieve pressure.

If it isn't the belt, sorry I couldn't help you.

Maybe you just got some water up in there, but it should be gone/evaporated by now...
 
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Thats what i really think it is...the belt. It rained all night last night and its like dewy outside...i am going to go to the car wash today...and get all of that crap out from under my truck...maybe there is like something stuck up in there....i just dont know how to go about washing out the engine...
 
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Do you have a 4.0 or 3.0 engine?
The 3.0 engines are famous for belt squeeks.
Is it the same squeek you hear in the morning?
If it is a 3.0 engine it could be the belt tensioner or glazing on the belt as these are two frequent causes of squeeking.
If the belt is tight and the squeeking is not coming from the tensioner try applying some belt conditioner to the belt to get some of the glazing off it.
If it is the tensioner it will have to be replaced as a bearing is probably going.
You can quiet the tensioner by spraying some silicone into it (not on the belt) but that is only a temporary solution.
Same solutions for a 4.0 but they are not as prone to belt squeeling.
Good luck.
 
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yeah i have a 3.0...its a little bit louder now then in the mornings but in the morning it stops...this one doesnt.
 
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Try some belt dressing.
Special stuff to clean the belt and take off some of that glazing.
 
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Neil hit it on the nose I bet. Smart guy, he is. Remember what I said though, it'll save some wear and tear!
 
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Originally Posted by LILBLUE04FX4L2
Try some belt dressing.
Special stuff to clean the belt and take off some of that glazing.
Dressing only makes more noise when applied to serpentine belts.
 
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Sounds like the same problem I had after mudding at soggy dry lake.

I took it to Ford after about a week of dealing with the stupid noise before I finally got sick of hearing it. They replaced the belt and the tensioner. If it continues and nothing else worked, Id say take it to Ford and see if its the same problem I had. But make sure when you take it to clean it really good so they cant blame the problem on your off roading adventure and void the warranty.
 
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Originally Posted by pacodiablo
Dressing only makes more noise when applied to serpentine belts.

I have a 4cyl 2.3 my belt did squeek then i put dressing on it and it got a lot better. Im pretty sure i have a serpertine belt tho
 
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Yea your belt may just be due to get replaced. Do you know how long that belt has been on there?
 
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i have no idea...when i got it used it was on there and that was....ummm March of 2003
 
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I use Goodyear Gatorback belts on mine. They are more expensive, but worth it. They have little treads cut into the belt like a tire and they grab really well. They also have a stronger fiber inside. If it's not your tensioner, the standard belt on a 3.0 will just start squeaking again. Get a Gatorback and it'll stop.
 
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Kinda funny that Goodyear stopped production on Goodyear Gatorback tires [came stock on my Mustang] and now they make an engine belt with the same name. Hmm...I guess companies aren't creative anymore with names. Heck, look at Pentium! They have 4 different renditions of Pentium. Who said people in the computer world were smart? They can't even think of new names!
 
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the gatorback fixed my squealing but i think the tensioner or maybe the fan clutch may be going too since when i start it up in the morning it makes a really loud squeal for about 3 seconds and then stops
 
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yeah....i went to the car wash...did a good cleaning and it stopped. Got back home...turned on my truck and it did it again...my dad took a look at it and is gonna get me a belt tomorrow...:D So i guess i will get the Goodyear one.. :)
 
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i have put 3 belts on mine and 4 idler pulls....
Its a common 3.0 thing....belt dressing does work BUT only fora few days...
The paint comes off of the idler pully and when the belt rubs on the baremetal it squeeks
mine does it still.....when it rains or when its humid in the morning..
the Gatorback I put on mine has been the quietest for the longest ...
Youcan change the belt and it will go away for while But it willl come back
 
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alrighty...thanks guys for all of the help..
 
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If you read the can of belt dressing.. it says for v-type belts only DO NOT USE ON SERPENTINE BELTS.
So i followed the instructions lol.

I had transmission fluid soak my belt and all the accessories... (dont ask)
I degreased it about 4 times rinsing with hot water.. and its mostly fixed now..
Just a slip for like .2 seconds when its really cold out (which i'm pretty sure it did last year too)

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You only need to replace a serpentine belt if there are more than 4 cracks per inch. Anything earlier than that is premature. Squeaking isn't harmful, however, a ticking sound is. That means there is a large chunk missing out of your belt and the steel braid is hitting a pulley.
 
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