Ford is the only auto maker that doesnt have a true 4 door truck
nope, but the post before me didn't say that 
I know exactly what yall are talking about, and i just want to stir it up a little before it gets locked.
nope wrong
it had 2 still, but thats where the seat belts were so i couldn't take them off.

I know exactly what yall are talking about, and i just want to stir it up a little before it gets locked.
nope wrong

it had 2 still, but thats where the seat belts were so i couldn't take them off.
There is no need for a 4 door Ranger. If you want a small 4 door Ford truck you need to get a SportTrac. I still don't think a 4 door is really needed anyway, Rangers are IMO kids and old peoples trucks and most of them arn't depending on driving a family comfortably in their truck. I think middle aged people look funny driving Rangers, they are too small. I mean yeah a 4 door would be cool and all but it's not like Ford NEEDS to make one.
No, F150 is a fullsize truck.
No, F150 is a fullsize truck.
i dont understand why you think that they offer a v6 with a decent tow rating
A 4door Ranger wouldn't take profits away from the F-150, it would take the profits away from the other companies making 4door compact picks-ups. You either want a little truck or a big truck. The addition of a 4door Ranger wouldn't hinder the F-150 sales whatsoever.
Dakota is really hard to put in this category being its offered in a V8. and is almost the size of an F-150
But i see it this way.. by not offering the ranger in 4 doors they push people into F-150s. I just dont think a 4 door ranger would sell like a taco. I dont see many canyons running around ever.
But i see it this way.. by not offering the ranger in 4 doors they push people into F-150s. I just dont think a 4 door ranger would sell like a taco. I dont see many canyons running around ever.
no 4 door truck bed is big unless you get a long bed like the 90s 150s or 250s and they look retarted and are long as hell and nothing we want lol. i would be willing to give up bed space for warm dry space in my cab during hunting season i wish i had a back seat to set my gun on instead of the gun rack in my back window it doesn't stay up very well and makes my gun shake like crazy. and when i want to go some place with a couple people and we want to talk one car i cant take my truck because there isnt enough room for more than 2 with 3 its a pain the shift
Ford didn't offer a 4 door ranger probably because they could charge more for a 4 door explorer sport trac. All in the name.
A "midsize" would take from the F150 sales because a ton of people are tired of the small ranger/sport trac so they are buying F150's.
The ranger is dying off anyway, most manufactures don't make anything "compact" now, they've all upgraded to "midsize" like the Tundra.
I would say in a few years if everything doesn't crash there will be a midsize, something between the Ranger and the F150.
This way they are taking the Ranger buyers and forcing them to step up to a midsize, instead of opening up a vehicle between the two and losing sales on both sides.
I don't know what to say about economy though. The truck would have to have a powerful engine to compete, and mileage will suffer. No one will buy one if it's much less powerful than a tundra, etc.
A "midsize" would take from the F150 sales because a ton of people are tired of the small ranger/sport trac so they are buying F150's.
The ranger is dying off anyway, most manufactures don't make anything "compact" now, they've all upgraded to "midsize" like the Tundra.
I would say in a few years if everything doesn't crash there will be a midsize, something between the Ranger and the F150.
This way they are taking the Ranger buyers and forcing them to step up to a midsize, instead of opening up a vehicle between the two and losing sales on both sides.
I don't know what to say about economy though. The truck would have to have a powerful engine to compete, and mileage will suffer. No one will buy one if it's much less powerful than a tundra, etc.
If it aint broke dont fix it.
I think the south american rangers are sick!
Check it out:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN
I think the south american rangers are sick!
Check it out:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN
If it aint broke dont fix it.
I think the south american rangers are sick!
Check it out:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN
I think the south american rangers are sick!
Check it out:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN
We are stuck with the sh!tty US version no matter what.
Ok, first thing..nobody has really touched on the price difference to go up from even a fully loaded ranger to a base f150. there's a several thousand dollar difference even with that.
as for killing the ranger, one of the reasons i heard is that it does not have side air bags. side airbags are now mandatory i beleive for all 2010 models. not that ford doesn't want to spend the money to engineer and implement the use of a major design change,but why spend the money for a model they are going to stop producing within the next calendar year when they are already in as much financial trouble as all the other manufacturers?
imo, killing off the ranger is a bad idea, but the basic design is now over 10 years old and needs a complete redesign to keep up with, or exceed the competition. the ranger is a fantastic truck in just about every way, and there is no wonder they have built it for so long and have sold so many because ford just got it 'right' with this truck.
if ford did have the option of selling a 4 door ranger here in north america, i think it would sell. i dont understand why south america and other places get quad cab variants of many other trucks that are sold/used to be sold here in north america, while we just get stuck with regular and extended cab models.
if i need to compromise and get a truck, yet dont want to fork out the money for a large truck, a quad cab short bed compact/midsize truck is just the ticket for someone who doesn't want a wagon,crossover or suv. I am one of those people who would buy a quad cab no sweat. in the past couple of years i have looked at s10 and colorado quad cabs. i didnt like the colorados at all, but the s10 quad cab, which was actually a fully loaded Sonoma SLS 4x4 was an amazing truck. I waited 2 days too long to bring in a deposit and it got sold right out from under my nose.
as for killing the ranger, one of the reasons i heard is that it does not have side air bags. side airbags are now mandatory i beleive for all 2010 models. not that ford doesn't want to spend the money to engineer and implement the use of a major design change,but why spend the money for a model they are going to stop producing within the next calendar year when they are already in as much financial trouble as all the other manufacturers?
imo, killing off the ranger is a bad idea, but the basic design is now over 10 years old and needs a complete redesign to keep up with, or exceed the competition. the ranger is a fantastic truck in just about every way, and there is no wonder they have built it for so long and have sold so many because ford just got it 'right' with this truck.
if ford did have the option of selling a 4 door ranger here in north america, i think it would sell. i dont understand why south america and other places get quad cab variants of many other trucks that are sold/used to be sold here in north america, while we just get stuck with regular and extended cab models.
if i need to compromise and get a truck, yet dont want to fork out the money for a large truck, a quad cab short bed compact/midsize truck is just the ticket for someone who doesn't want a wagon,crossover or suv. I am one of those people who would buy a quad cab no sweat. in the past couple of years i have looked at s10 and colorado quad cabs. i didnt like the colorados at all, but the s10 quad cab, which was actually a fully loaded Sonoma SLS 4x4 was an amazing truck. I waited 2 days too long to bring in a deposit and it got sold right out from under my nose.
Why ruin a good thing? Adding more doors is gonna completely change the size and look of a Ranger and they sell just fine as is. Also I agree that the Ranger is a compact, not midsized. When I bought my Ranger fully loaded was the same price as a "standard" F150 (some options but not fully loaded). I could have easily moved up to that truck and would have if I was gonna have a family soon but I don't need it so I prefer the smaller Ranger.... I think it's fine the way it is and the life of the Ranger is limited anyway.
IMO the ranger also needs to be offered with the long box extended cab and not just a short box version. and if anyone wants a midsized 4 door truck get the sport trac. same thing. ranger is a compact truck last one being built. everyone else makes mid sized trucks. f-150 is a full size and i was never impressed with the bed space of those trucks because you can't fit anything in there with out leaving the tail gate open.
Rangers (mostly FX4s and Sports) sell like crazy here in Canada. Our higher costs of gasoline (that are drilled a few miles from my farm) and large percentage of farmers and bad road conditions make the Ranger an extremely useful vehicle here. I understand the reasons behind the cut of production but it disappoints me to think there won't be many more.
A four-door ranger like the four-door S-10 would be sweet. Yes the bed would be all of about four foot and useless, but I'd rock one anyway. Is the Ranger the only compact left? Does Toyota or Nissan not still have one?
I'm curious to see what's up with the new F-100 that's supposed to replace the Ranger in 2010. I wander how big it will be and what motors will be offered.
I'm curious to see what's up with the new F-100 that's supposed to replace the Ranger in 2010. I wander how big it will be and what motors will be offered.
i agree on the long box xcab that would be awesome
anyways, all the quad cab trucks i know of get sub 20mpg mileage .... why would someone buy one of those when they can have an f150 or silverado that gets 21 - 22.
anyways, all the quad cab trucks i know of get sub 20mpg mileage .... why would someone buy one of those when they can have an f150 or silverado that gets 21 - 22.
I'm very happy with the current size of my Ranger XLT. It gets good gas milage and it's easy to drive around in tight parking lots. A bigger truck would be more difficult for me to handle. Another reason I don't want a larger truck, is they are a little higher up than mine which would make it more difficult to get in and out of, with my bad back. The Ranger is perfect fit for me.
Last edited by dj wayne; Dec 17, 2008 at 05:48 PM.




