Hurst or fx4 shifter ?
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Hurst or fx4 shifter ?
I just completed my 1" bodylift . Now i am ready to do something to the shifter.....
I'm debating on either the hurst or the fx4 shift arm .
I know the hurst could be really good but i'm worried about it leaking.Are alot of people having problems with it leaking ?my interior is almost perfect so i definently don't want the carpet ruined.also durability on the trail is always a concern.
i want to get a leather boot and shifter lifter so its going to run about 250 dollars .
I like the look of the fx4 shifter a little more its also certain to not have any problems. the fx4 arm is cheaper but its not going to help the sloppy shifting ,a little more money to get the hurst .
what does everyone think ?
I'm debating on either the hurst or the fx4 shift arm .
I know the hurst could be really good but i'm worried about it leaking.Are alot of people having problems with it leaking ?my interior is almost perfect so i definently don't want the carpet ruined.also durability on the trail is always a concern.
i want to get a leather boot and shifter lifter so its going to run about 250 dollars .
I like the look of the fx4 shifter a little more its also certain to not have any problems. the fx4 arm is cheaper but its not going to help the sloppy shifting ,a little more money to get the hurst .
what does everyone think ?
Last edited by stockranger; 02-02-2007 at 05:39 PM.
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The FX4 shift arm and ball actually cost more than the complete Hurst kit. As you have mentioned, the Hurst has a reputation for leaks and rattles.
The FX4 doesn't significantly change the shift pattern like the Hurst does. IMO, it does have a better feel and contour than the standard Ranger shifter though.
You should read George's shifter exposés to help you decide which might be better for you:
http://silvertank.batcave.net/Hurst1.html
http://silvertank.batcave.net/FXShift.html
The FX4 doesn't significantly change the shift pattern like the Hurst does. IMO, it does have a better feel and contour than the standard Ranger shifter though.
You should read George's shifter exposés to help you decide which might be better for you:
http://silvertank.batcave.net/Hurst1.html
http://silvertank.batcave.net/FXShift.html
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To simulate the gear mesh noise, just pop a cassette tape in and hit rewind. Now imagine that noise coming from the floor console all the time. You will also get the occasional rattle as the metal arm hits the shift stops. A good adjustment on the shift stops will help, but you won't kill all the small rattles. The arm will also resonate in 5th, and give off a small whine. The FX arm does the same, since it's also all metal.
You can reduce all the nosies by using the ideas from my webpage, but that comes at the expense of added heat. Our trannies do not use a seperate turret fluid, so it's up to the main unit to "sling" the oil up into the shifter. That's probably why Hursts are prone to leak. Mine never did in 3 months of testing. I could live with the sounds, but the heat around the shift cup was begininning to concern me.
To be honest, the Hurst is an awesome shifter. It makes perfect shifts from an otherwise imperfect stock transmission. It gives excellent feedback, and allows for much faster gear selection. The trade-off is noise, and Hurst will tell you it is a performance product. You can muffle some of the noise, but the trade-off is heat.
The FX arm is a big improvement over the stock arm in both performance and appearence. The curve of the arm, and perfect roundness of the ball do make for better shifting. It also has better feedback, since the arm is not insulated like the stock unit. It will not be as crisp as the Hurst, or offer a reduced pattern. It makes a perfect compromise between the Hurst and stock shift units.
You can reduce all the nosies by using the ideas from my webpage, but that comes at the expense of added heat. Our trannies do not use a seperate turret fluid, so it's up to the main unit to "sling" the oil up into the shifter. That's probably why Hursts are prone to leak. Mine never did in 3 months of testing. I could live with the sounds, but the heat around the shift cup was begininning to concern me.
To be honest, the Hurst is an awesome shifter. It makes perfect shifts from an otherwise imperfect stock transmission. It gives excellent feedback, and allows for much faster gear selection. The trade-off is noise, and Hurst will tell you it is a performance product. You can muffle some of the noise, but the trade-off is heat.
The FX arm is a big improvement over the stock arm in both performance and appearence. The curve of the arm, and perfect roundness of the ball do make for better shifting. It also has better feedback, since the arm is not insulated like the stock unit. It will not be as crisp as the Hurst, or offer a reduced pattern. It makes a perfect compromise between the Hurst and stock shift units.
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THanks guys ! i Think i decided on the hurst ... mainly cuz of price and underdog will make me a shifter lifter any height i want so i can get it just right .
wayne said he made his own little gaskets to help isolate the stick from vibration using a piece of left over boot material . I'm thinking i can find a gasket at the plumbing supply house which could work even better. I have a few ideas for deadening the noise. if for some reason it bothers me till i can't stand it i'm sure i can get most my money back and get the fx4 shifter .
wayne said he made his own little gaskets to help isolate the stick from vibration using a piece of left over boot material . I'm thinking i can find a gasket at the plumbing supply house which could work even better. I have a few ideas for deadening the noise. if for some reason it bothers me till i can't stand it i'm sure i can get most my money back and get the fx4 shifter .
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