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My truck is reliable as hell I just treat it like crap
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Maybe the reason you dislike your truck so much is because you have one of the bottom of the barrel models.
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ive never seen a truck more reliable then the 86 ram we had
I've never seen a truck more rerliable than my old 86 F150 300 I6 but don't expect those kinds of trucks to be built ever again. Be realistic and stop living in the past.

If you feel that why then why not scour the land for an 86 dodge with low miles and quit griping?
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The only problem I had with my 02 was the engine blew up, but that was my fault. The only time it went to the dealership for work was my fault too. My F-150 never saw the dealership, never needed to.
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i beat the living **** out of mine, only problem i have had was a bent LCA because i jumped it, and my clutch is getting done because it has 112k miles on it, and the pilot bearing decided to blow up..
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^^ Agreed the only time my truck has been in the shop was to replace something (brakes, oil, stuff like that) and thats just because I didnt have time to do it myself. I've never ever had a problem with this truck and its pushin 60k miles.
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The only time I've beaten my truck so bad that I couldn't drive it was a piston rod through the block. I snapped a cv joint this weekend and completely hydrolocked a motor 300 miles from home before and it always made it home.

Maybe you got the truck produced on second shift after happy hour?
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I've never seen a truck more rerliable than my old 86 F150 300 I6 but don't expect those kinds of trucks to be built ever again. Be realistic and stop living in the past.

If you feel that why then why not scour the land for an 86 dodge with low miles and quit griping?

the 300 I6 is just as good as the 318 . both trucks will rust out before the engine stops.

i shouldnt have to "live in the past" with the way things are supposed to be . things are supposed to get better not worse with age. for once i bought a vehicle newer than a 95 , and its the worst one ive ever had . im going back to the past when they cared about the vehicles they built.

after this past weekend i am going to scour the land for another dodge like i had . im sure if i called my cousin up in detroit he will still tell me its on the road going strong.

im griping because i can . wouldnt you want to hear about a vehicles short comings before you purchased it ? im just stating the fact that my personal interactions with this vehicle over the past years and 40k miles have been quite a pain on me . if you dont care to read my grips and possible complaints from other owners, then dont view this anymore .
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Maybe the reason you dislike your truck so much is because you have one of the bottom of the barrel models.
since when did amenities like power windows and locks become an issue of seatbelts not working , 3 cab leaks , 2 pulled transmissions , a detonation problem that cant be solved ... among other random gremlins ..

i bought a base XLT because i thought "hell with less options .. less should go wrong!!" ..
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im going back to the past when they cared about the vehicles they built.
It took you wasting money on a newer vehicle to figure that out?

Things are made faster and cheaper(crappier not less expensive) to keep up with the asian/european vehicles and prices of the vehicles. Something that didn't have to be thought about nearly as much 20 years ago. Inflation is a b1tch too.
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It took you wasting money on a newer vehicle to figure that out?

Things are made faster and cheaper(crappier not less expensive) to keep up with the asian/european vehicles and prices of the vehicles. Something that didn't have to be thought about nearly as much 20 years ago. Inflation is a b1tch too.
yep . it took me wasting money on something that should be "built with pride" . ive paid cash for all my previous vehicles as well . all between $300 and $10k.. this was the first one i took a loan out for just for ****s n giggles. .. alot of firsts on this one .. but never again . ill be buying my next truck cash , and it will out power and outlast my ranger with no doubt in my mind . it will also be at least 10 years older .
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your personal insults are not needed . i asked if any ppl are having as many problems with their lemons, i mean rangers as i am .
Mine has been rolled twice. The only problems with it.. the drivers willingness to get agressive.

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you know nothing of my knowledge on vehicles. i have many years of mechanical work under my belt, and my opinion of ford atm is the same opinion you have of dodge . but i am not going to call you stupid for liking one vehicle over another . thanks for being childish
My mother purchased a 2002 Sebring. Nice looking car. 7 cv shafts, 3 transmissions and 1 engine later, she went after the dealership under the NYS ' Lemon Law '. The car had 7000 miles on it and not even a scratch in the paint.

You wont see a ' rice-ler ' product in any driveways near myself.
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here she is !

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Mine has been rolled twice. The only problems with it.. the drivers willingness to get agressive.



My mother purchased a 2002 Sebring. Nice looking car. 7 cv shafts, 3 transmissions and 1 engine later, she went after the dealership under the NYS ' Lemon Law '. The car had 7000 miles on it and not even a scratch in the paint.

You wont see a ' rice-ler ' product in any driveways near myself.
i wont have any other chrysler product in my drive way than a dodge truck . all their other cars are what give them a bad name . *edit - ill make room for a jeep too

the only chevy i would ever own was my '55 series 2 pickup i had .

now the only "ford" im going to own is a FFR '65 daytona .

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i shouldnt have to "live in the past" with the way things are supposed to be . things are supposed to get better not worse with age.
Your buying into a lie. Ask yourself about all the mid 80's-90's vehicals and where they are.. yet we can see some late 60's early 70's cars on the road today..

I know too many people whom are still living in the 'carboration age' and wanting leaded gasoline back. Its just NOT going to happen.

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for once i bought a vehicle newer than a 95 , and its the worst one ive ever had . im going back to the past when they cared about the vehicles they built.
I had a thread on here before where a great debate took place. It was about vehical safety as my Pops in a F350 Dually ( MIterally ) RAN OVER a Subaru. My argument was that 6500lbs of moving weight will destroy whatever ' safety standards ' or ' 5 stars ' are out there.

Ask yourself.. would you rather be an a 71 Caddy Eldorado or a Nissan Sentra in an accident? THAT speaks for ' Modern Technology '.

Newer Vehicals are ( IMO ) designed to be traded in once their paid off ( 4-5 years ).

They claim sparkplugs will go 100,000 miles?

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after this past weekend i am going to scour the land for another dodge like i had . im sure if i called my cousin up in detroit he will still tell me its on the road going strong.
Bribe him and get it back. Baseball bat, gunpoint.. whatever it takes :)

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im griping because i can . wouldnt you want to hear about a vehicles short comings before you purchased it ?
Something to remember.. its YOUR truck, one instance of THOUSANDS that are on this site. I do NOT believe your instance sets a standard for ' Ranger ' trucks in general. I believe you WISH it to be such , but unfortunatly, theres individuals like myself whom will now have to question your mechanical abilities ( as Karp did ). I maintain my truck ( somewhat.. Ive been lazy lately :) ) and outside of my OWN doings.. nothing has broken or needed dealership work. I would glote and say how great these trucks are but it would be STUPID to expect such to be the ' norm ', just as its stupid to believe your situation is the norm.

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im just stating the fact that my personal interactions with this vehicle over the past years and 40k miles have been quite a pain on me .
Mine have been enjoyable.

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if you dont care to read my grips and possible complaints from other owners, then dont view this anymore .
I spent many years defending your right to say such and also to preserve my right just the same. If your going to cry like a wench about something others are enjoying, expect reflections of such. If you don't want to hear that others are having ' good times ' whilst your in the ' dumper ', maybe you need to polish up on your abilities and fix your ride and join the rest of us.
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i wont have any other chrysler product in my drive way than a dodge truck . all their other cars are what give them a bad name . *edit - ill make room for a jeep too
I was handed a 1999 Cherokee Thats I just rebuilt the axles and Tcase on. Has the 4.0 straight 6 and just hit 100k on the odo. Body is starting to rust a bit by the back windows and it has NEVER been used ' off road '. It will make a supreme winter vehical for myself.

Of all the vehicals I've worked on in my years, I would hazzard a good guess towards saying that Jeep has been the least ' maintenance queen ' I have EVER seen of any vehical.
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you got a ranger built on a friday, (so to speak) or in other words, A LEMON. but, please don't think all rangers are lemons. and sometimes, people use the word "lemon" a little too freely. if your truck has 74,000 miles on it, it's going to have some problems here and there.
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I must say I've had my 2003 Ranger XLT for six months now, and it has been completely trouble free. Other than wiper blades and an oil change, I haven't had to do anything to it. I did wash and wax it does that count ??

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Your buying into a lie. Ask yourself about all the mid 80's-90's vehicals and where they are.. yet we can see some late 60's early 70's cars on the road today..

I know too many people whom are still living in the 'carboration age' and wanting leaded gasoline back. Its just NOT going to happen.
i dont plan on going back to leaded . and the 70's and 80's were no doubt the worst years for vehicles . but im not talking about a gas saver vehicle that everybody was forced to drive in those days . im talking about a truck that was a purpose built work vehicle . i see plenty of them on the road to this day.



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I had a thread on here before where a great debate took place. It was about vehical safety as my Pops in a F350 Dually ( MIterally ) RAN OVER a Subaru. My argument was that 6500lbs of moving weight will destroy whatever ' safety standards ' or ' 5 stars ' are out there.

Ask yourself.. would you rather be an a 71 Caddy Eldorado or a Nissan Sentra in an accident? THAT speaks for ' Modern Technology '.

Newer Vehicals are ( IMO ) designed to be traded in once their paid off ( 4-5 years ).

They claim sparkplugs will go 100,000 miles?
again , my daily driver will always be something "safe" and not a standard 4-door 4 or 6 cyl car . the ranger is quite decent in accidents . many ppl walk away from rolled ones . i have two cars that i race that are 2 doors, but i do not drive them on the street everyday . esp. in tampa! the drivers here are terrible! otherwise i would have a bike in the garage also :(



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Bribe him and get it back. Baseball bat, gunpoint.. whatever it takes :)
hes 1200 miles away . it would cost me the price of the truck just to get up there and get it . ill look around here for another :D



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Something to remember.. its YOUR truck, one instance of THOUSANDS that are on this site. I do NOT believe your instance sets a standard for ' Ranger ' trucks in general. I believe you WISH it to be such , but unfortunatly, theres individuals like myself whom will now have to question your mechanical abilities ( as Karp did ). I maintain my truck ( somewhat.. Ive been lazy lately :) ) and outside of my OWN doings.. nothing has broken or needed dealership work. I would glote and say how great these trucks are but it would be STUPID to expect such to be the ' norm ', just as its stupid to believe your situation is the norm.
i dont wish my instances to set the standards for ranger , and i know they dont... if you recall i noted i was a ford fan boy . ive owned plenty of fords and i jokingly wouldnt even ride in my friends gm's . but this one falling apart beneath me is breaking my heart and patience . you can question my mechanical abilities all you want but ive built and maintained countless race vehicles , trucks, and cars . i do everything from frame work to painting and building high hp turbo engines. i take no shortcuts. i know what im doing and ive been knowledgeably turning wrenches for over 15 years . my cars have never been to a dealership or in a garage other than my own . all my friends and family come to me for work (because im gullible and do great work for free) . i have plenty of ppl to back up my knowledge on the way around a vehicle . so thats your opinion and i cant change that :)



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Mine have been enjoyable.
awesome ! glad somebody can enjoy their trucks , like the many others on here without problems . i just wish i had the same song and dance :( esp. after what i paid for this lil truck.



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I spent many years defending your right to say such and also to preserve my right just the same. If your going to cry like a wench about something others are enjoying, expect reflections of such. If you don't want to hear that others are having ' good times ' whilst your in the ' dumper ', maybe you need to polish up on your abilities and fix your ride and join the rest of us.
touche! and thanks for defending the rights of not only me but the rest of this country :) my ablilities (which are more than enough)can only polish a turd so much before it gets nerve wrecking. pulling transmissions every other weekend gets boring . its one thing i can thank the body lift for ... more room to work on this peice !
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I didn't mean to be insulting sorry, but if you search DODGE on this forum, you'll find nothing but bad words surrounding it. I thought it was common knowledge that Dodge has made nothing but Crap products for the last 15 years which is why Daimler had to come in and pick up all the pieces. Old Dodge was great just like everything else that was build before the "disposable" era in mass production.

The cummins is the only decent thing Dodge has to offer but the trucks that they put them in are about the same quality as the Seashell sculptures with the googly eyes that you can buy at truck stop gas stations....
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I didn't mean to be insulting sorry, but if you search DODGE on this forum, you'll find nothing but bad words surrounding it. I thought it was common knowledge that Dodge has made nothing but Crap products for the last 15 years which is why Daimler had to come in and pick up all the pieces. Old Dodge was great just like everything else that was build before the "disposable" era in mass production.

The cummins is the only decent thing Dodge has to offer but the trucks that they put them in are about the same quality as the Seashell sculptures with the googly eyes that you can buy at truck stop gas stations....
thanks , appreciated the apology. i know if i search dodge on here it will all be insults . its a ford forum :) just as i would expect them to bash fords.

i truely love my truck for its size and driveability . but honestly it has just been such a lemon i want to throw it in a lake .. it looks great sitting there ! but when i drive it .. i remember why i dont like it :( even ford was only willing to pay 3200 for it when i offered it to them .

i just had to rant . who knows whats in store for it ... maybe it will change its act here in the next couple weeks . maybe not . if not , im looking for a new (old) truck (dodge) .
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Ask yourself.. would you rather be an a 71 Caddy Eldorado or a Nissan Sentra in an accident? THAT speaks for ' Modern Technology '.



so ur sayin a nissan sentra isent safe? if i remember correctly i just wrecked mine a little over a month go. i was doin over 50 mph n yes still walked away with a slight cut on my head (my fault for not wearing my seatbelt) and my girl thats pregnant bout to pop our baby walked out un harmed other then seatbelt pullin tight on her.

i did $8400 worth of work to it n still have it. so how can u say nissan sentras are not safe. btw i also hit a dodge also. yes it tore my car apart but still saved our lifes.

now back on topic...yes i can vouch i kno jeff. he has many years of wrenching. as i have seen some of his work personally. hes a very smart man.

btw jeff u ever get that del sol runnin with the prelude engine?
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I have an 02 ranger and if you take care of whats yours there shouldnt be any issues, I have had no problems with mine at all and if anything does pop up I go ahead and fix it right away so it doesnt domino... ... ...
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so ur sayin a nissan sentra isent safe? if i remember correctly i just wrecked mine a little over a month go. i was doin over 50 mph n yes still walked away with a slight cut on my head (my fault for not wearing my seatbelt) and my girl thats pregnant bout to pop our baby walked out un harmed other then seatbelt pullin tight on her.

i did $8400 worth of work to it n still have it. so how can u say nissan sentras are not safe. btw i also hit a dodge also. yes it tore my car apart but still saved our lifes.

now back on topic...yes i can vouch i kno jeff. he has many years of wrenching. as i have seen some of his work personally. hes a very smart man.

btw jeff u ever get that del sol runnin with the prelude engine?

thanks bro. glad you two weren't hurt ! i had that engine in there for quite some time and pulled it out . im running a sohc turbo now in the orange car, but im going to drop another jdm lude engine in the black one . with my orange one, i dropped in the edelbrock kit, put 500 miles on it , and drove it out to cali and back with the gf (from fl). put about 7000 miles on the new setup in less than a month. came back , and pushed the car , knowing it would pop , i spiked boost and popped the headgasket . .. so one of the three engines i have here is going to be gettin built in the near future . looking to put 400whp on the sohc with stock sleeves. if i could ever stop spending money on my ranger i could get to my race cars sooner :(
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ok so after all this mindless rambling and stuff i think weve concluded that you probably got a lemon, nowone should critisize your opinion, and that you want to get a dodge? anything i forgot please correct me
Edit: and that everyone has their own personal preference in vehicles
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ok so after all this mindless rambling and stuff i think weve concluded that you probably got a lemon, nowone should critisize your opinion, and that you want to get a dodge? anything i forgot please correct me
Edit: and that everyone has their own personal preference in vehicles
opinions are fair game . i just didnt think it was called for when he instilled me as inept soley based on my choice of vehicle . when he clearly has no idea who i am or what i am capable of .
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