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Old 03-17-2006
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interior and exterior vibration from stereo?

my system in my truck sounds great but at higher volumes the vibrations in the truck are so loud that it really distorts the clarity of the music . up front the door panels/possibly speaker grills seem to be making a good deal of noise aswell as the passenger window crank ****. i know they sell some stuff to put inside doors at crutchfield but i am skeptical about it working specialy since its only meant to help eliminate road noise. i'm hesitant to pull off the door panels because i know it is probably held on with plastic clips and if you remove the panels too many times they strip out and i'll have to replace them all. i found out in my old truck that taking stuff apart leads to more rattles on the road.im thinking maybe putting some egg crate in there or something but the window has to be able to go down and i don't know how much room is in there .

The front is generaly not too bad unless i have the low frequency going to those speakers. The worste problem is in the back . The speakers mounted in the factory locations cause a good deal of noise but when i turn the sub on its insanity . Outside the truck sounds even worse ! I have the ext cab but i did not get the rear jump seats . Inside and outside the vehicle on passenger and driver side i can hear a loud buzzing. it seems to be coming from behind the plastic panel roughly 6 inches below the side windows . Whats back there that might be causing the problem ? i haven't had a chance to look and see how it comes apart but again worried i might make it worse if i take it apart . I thought maybe i could stuff egg crate back there then stuff more in the storage compartment . or maybe i could not take it apart and just pop the plastic piece out at the bottom of the storage area and stuff some material up there but i'm not sure what is back there . maybe wires or something . The sub sits behind the passenger seat and i thought maybe i could line that corner with egg crate too . i have a very low budget but i want to do something so i can get the most out of stereo. i tried stuffing some old sweat shirts in the storage compartment and that helped things inside a little . I am not sure if egg crate would be better or worse ?

what do people do who have show cars with 15 inch subs ? it would sound horrible if they don't do something to stop the car from rattling/buzzing
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well, i'm just around 145-150 db and i can almost guess I have more shakes than your truck...i read your sig and you have a 400 watt sub or something.

I dynamatted my WHOLE truck...everything that rattles.

to give you an idea, the whole truck took about 100 sq ft of sound deadening


my antenna moves about 1/4" when the bass hits...so my steering wheel is the least of my worries. the steering wheel almost hurts to touch sometimes (thus making it hard to drive). Forget about sitting in the truck...thats long gone (it hurts)

I don't know if thats the question you are asking, but the steering wheel was the first thing to shake in my truck. Even w/ my 1 10" sub at 138 db...that thing shook pretty good.

LMK if thats what you were asking

edit: and you can take apart anything you want on that truck. your doors can be taken off as much as you want. I've taken mine off at least 10x already. The only thing you have to worry about are the panels...just do it right

DYNAMAT!!! It will solve all your problems. I can sell you about 25 sq feet of b-quiet (i still have some left) for about 50 dollars + shipping. (I paid 128 for 50 sq ft...it's a tad thinner than dynamat extreme)

Trust me, sound deaden and use rubber peices (i used double sided tape) to stop all rattles...works awesome
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dude , whats the point of that much bass? I can't even turn up my 400 watt 10 inch mobile authority all the way and tolerate sitting in the truck. the sub is on my right side and already i have noticable hearing loss in that ear after 5 years.i actualy set a limit on how loud i turn it up because in the first few months after i got it i definently messed up my hearing. the dynamat type stuff does sound like it could solve the problem . I don't know a whole lot about cars so i'm not really sure what the right way is to take things apart . I will consider purchasing some from you but probably not for about a month. I have to get rock sliders and duff traction bars to be ready for spring !

i see you have type r ... good stuff...my sub is paper i believe and i know it is going to wear out ... when it does i hope to upgrade to the type R . and amp the door and rear speakers to add clarity at high volume .
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being loud is freakin awsome..

what are the main points in the truck that rattle..i was thinkin of damping it..but just wanted to know some key places on where its the worst
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being loud is freakin awsome..

what are the main points in the truck that rattle..i was thinkin of damping it..but just wanted to know some key places on where its the worst
my absolute worst is still the back panel. it flexes SO much, it's rediculous. the roof doesn't make a noise. also the doors made some noise. The plastic trim pieces by the firewall (i just used double sided sticky tape to fix that, it's like a cushion)

so

1. back panel
2. doors
3. firewall
4. my ohc
5. my passenger console (it vibrates against the other plastic around it)






And the point of loud bass, I like to feel my music. I don't know why you are having problems with rattling, my old setup i didn't have a single rattle and it was a 135 (on music) setup. I never heard a rattle from it. A lot of flex, but no rattles.
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what if we like made a foam mold and slid it in the door panel...is that possible???
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what if we like made a foam mold and slid it in the door panel...is that possible???
Yes, people use egg crate.

On my truck that wouldn't have helped...most of the rattling is metal/plastic. Thats where the dynamat comes in.
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i never had rattles with my 2 10" but now with the 2-L7 everything move..and i agree with jrpro i like to feel my music..the 2-12" l7 still isnt loud enough..i want an SUV next and put 4 12" or a couple 18" or something in it just so its louder..lol
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see I dynomattee my doors only and they still rattle, I wann do they entire cab b/c I still have lots of noise, and its plastic on metal...I'm gonna try egg crates

!!!!Just got an Idea....what about that matress coverstuff looks like sound deadning foam :) I have an old one I'll cut it up and put it in I bet that would work....
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i never had rattles with my 2 10" but now with the 2-L7 everything move..and i agree with jrpro i like to feel my music..the 2-12" l7 still isnt loud enough..i want an SUV next and put 4 12" or a couple 18" or something in it just so its louder..lol
i feel ya, my next toy might be a bike though...shhhhh

i might get a fullsize if i don't get a bike (chevy that is) i wanna cross over to the dark side

6" lift on 35's...ahhhhhh nice!!!
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Best place to start with rattles is to figure out what panels are actually vibrating. Seems obvious I know, but after being in the business for years and seeing what some ppl think is vibrating isnt.

I tend to like dynamat only because it is readily available at most good stereo shops and it comes in various "weights" or qualities. Another alternative is roofing material. This would be the same stuff you would use to seal off a door/window opening after replacing them on your house. It is very similar to dynamat in repsect... asphalt based and does have some weight to it.

If weight is a concern, you could also try rubberized undercoatring ro expanding foam. The rubber coating is the same stuff that is on the bottom of your truck already, and the foam is extremely light weight. the only bad thing about the foam is the expansion rate, too much foam and you may crack or ripple some metal if your not careful.
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what does the foam look like? is it expensive?
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Ok, I also recomend DynoMAt. However, what most people don't realize is that to get the full experience, DynoMat recomends using two of their products on top of each other. DynoMat Extreme is used generally for taking out rattles and such because that's what it was designed to do. If your worried about it taking out your road noise and nothing else, don't worry, it will do the complete opposite. If your looking for the whole deal, use the Extreme Dynomat in cunjuction with another one of their products. I recomend using TacMat. Another cool thing that they offer is a spray. The benefit of this is that you can spray it where you need it without having to worry about dimensions. It expands on contact, useful if your trying to get into corners. I am not a DynoMat Rep, but I have used it extensively and recomend it 100% if used right!!
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