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Need a price list for a 2wd-4wd swap

Okay I am debating doing this swap. So I would like to get a good idea on price to see if it's even worth it or if I should just wait and trade my truck in for a 4x4.

So if you could list out all that is needed and roughly what the parts cost so I can total it up.

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tcase, front diff, front shafts, new spindles and hubs, the wiring or lever for the tcase, driveshaft, diff mounts, new rear driveshaft, and probably a lot of other little things.
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trade it in its cheaper
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isnt the output of tranny differant on 4wd too?
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this has been touched before. not even worth your effort to make it a 4wd. unless you are doing a SFA.

it would cost so much and it woulnd be easy to do.

if you want 4wd trade it in.
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this has been touched before. not even worth your effort to make it a 4wd. unless you are doing a SFA.

it would cost so much and it woulnd be easy to do.

if you want 4wd trade it in.
Yeah it would have a SFA. If I was going to all the trouble to make it 4wd i'd rather have a front axle then IFS.
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if you did the sas at the same time itde be worth it. but then why would you need to knwo all the stock parts you need? or am i misconceiving your question?
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if you did the sas at the same time itde be worth it. but then why would you need to knwo all the stock parts you need? or am i misconceiving your question?
Sorry I should of been more clear on the original question. I'm wanting to swap to 4wd using a SFA and wanted a parts list for it so I know i have everything and roughly what it would cost so I could get a ball park figure as to what it will cost me give or take a few bucks here and there.
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even if you go SFA, its still gonna be cheaper in the long run to trade it in for a 4x4. theres just so much other BS that you have to deal with when doing the 4wd conversion.
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even if you go SFA, its still gonna be cheaper in the long run to trade it in for a 4x4. theres just so much other BS that you have to deal with when doing the 4wd conversion.
I dont know about that. If hes going for a SAS at the same time he can spend the money on stuff that even i want to swap out sooner. manual tcase/ doubler comes to mind right away. all the really expensive **** for the ranger is in the front axle assemblies. I think it would be cheaper and much more beneficial just to convert the 2wd. think about this, pick up an axle, say d44 for 200, then rebuild, thats maybe a few more hundred. if you stuck with a mainly stock d44 assuming hes not gonna run anything over 35s right off hes still sitting pretty good relative to the ranger 4wd system. sure itll be more custom work, but its not like anything on the 4wd ranger will switch over to the SAS anyway. youll need a new steering box, tie rods, drag link, trac bar, coils and link setup/ leaf springs, hangers and shackles.

also not to mention the money he loses on trade in. the only thing i can think of that would be beneficial is if the setup behind the tranny on a 4wd is completely different, which i would ASSUME 9 i dont know for sure) that you could just swith shafts to get a tcase on there...
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trade it for a 4x4....way cheaper
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trade it for a 4x4....way cheaper

with what reasoning can you back that up with?! i honestly dont see any REAL justification to trade in just so you can get a transfer case especially when swapping in a manny Tcase is a good idea to begin with.

I just dont see the reasoning...
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because of the parts he would have to buy...he would have to buy a tranny, t-case, front 4x4 suspension, front diff, new computer, 2 driveshafts, and if he goes with an electric tcase, all new interior trim for the 4x4 switch...

unless he buys a totaled 4x4 ranger of the same year for about 1,000 dollars, that he could completely swap things, it would be cheaper..
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trade it for a 4x4....way cheaper
hes gonna be taking the front end all apart anyways.. it would probably be cheaper to stick with what he has..
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a 2x4 tranny and a 4x4 tranny aint the same and you can't convert 1
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Like said before.......trade it in if you want 4wd. LOL
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because of the parts he would have to buy...he would have to buy a tranny, t-case, front 4x4 suspension, front diff, new computer, 2 driveshafts, and if he goes with an electric tcase, all new interior trim for the 4x4 switch...

unless he buys a totaled 4x4 ranger of the same year for about 1,000 dollars, that he could completely swap things, it would be cheaper..
im not positive on the tranny, but like i said thatde be the only holding factor but if you could get the tranny to work:

a manual tcase is a couple hundo, he needs new front axle, new suspension, at least one new driveshaft, and even IF he goes electric tcase he needs a new bezel and thats it. And itde be less work to tear down a 4x4 for SAS than a 4x2. Where the hell you get a new computer, i dont understand.

did you read the part about him not wanting to do a STOCK 4x4 conversion, but a Solid axle front conversion?
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isnt the output of tranny differant on 4wd too?

The trans has no tailshaft housing and the output shaft is different.

So either you dissasemble the trans and swap out the output shaft or you hafta get a different trans.
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Advanced adapters has an adapter i believe/bet, but not worth it.

Also, you should really buy a 98 and do this. Then do a front end upgrade and blah blah. My p oint is you can pick up the truck older, make it look exterior new, and find a 4x4 for cheap.
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im not positive on the tranny, but like i said thatde be the only holding factor but if you could get the tranny to work:

a manual tcase is a couple hundo, he needs new front axle, new suspension, at least one new driveshaft, and even IF he goes electric tcase he needs a new bezel and thats it. And itde be less work to tear down a 4x4 for SAS than a 4x2. Where the hell you get a new computer, i dont understand.

did you read the part about him not wanting to do a STOCK 4x4 conversion, but a Solid axle front conversion?
if he wants a SAS then he needs to keep the ranger for a daily driver and get a '79 f150 to fix up........a SAS ranger isn't proper for daily driving
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Advanced adapters has an adapter i believe/bet, but not worth it.

Also, you should really buy a 98 and do this. Then do a front end upgrade and blah blah. My p oint is you can pick up the truck older, make it look exterior new, and find a 4x4 for cheap.


why would you want a 98 aaron? its the same dang front suspension.

97 or pre 98 would make some sense.

i say mod the one you have.
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a SAS ranger isn't proper for daily driving

you can make it proper with ease.

i bet you can still get 15mpg out of maybe even better if you have manual hubs. which you better if you went to all that trouble of swapping them.

if i didnt have to have my truck every day to get back and forth to work i would have a solid axle by now.
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why would you want a 98 aaron? its the same dang front suspension.

97 or pre 98 would make some sense.

i say mod the one you have.


Well my thinking was.

01+ ranger, much higher cost

98 Ranger, same design, relatively close exterior appearance, upgradability.


So if he got a 01+ ranger, he's basically hacking off a good chunk of the cost of his vehicle. He surely isn't looking for the reliability of a new vehicle, since he's replacing the suspension.

And the reason as to not get 97 and back is simply it's a bit easier to upgrade the interior/exterior of a 98 than a 97. Not too much different, but diff none the less.

Also to lifted97ranger. A SAS ranger is actually about as safe as your truck on the road. SAS'd should have little risk of imploding the front axle, unlike your truck(although its unlikely to happen, its jus a much larger possibility). Also, as long as its a good job it is safe, and a flaw would be noticed in the first mile of driving.

Plus this is a ranger site! We don't want f-150s to offroad. They're fullsize trucks so they are wider/heavier.

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Well my thinking was.

01+ ranger, much higher cost

98 Ranger, same design, relatively close exterior appearance, upgradability.


So if he got a 01+ ranger, he's basically hacking off a good chunk of the cost of his vehicle. He surely isn't looking for the reliability of a new vehicle, since he's replacing the suspension.

And the reason as to not get 97 and back is simply it's a bit easier to upgrade the interior/exterior of a 98 than a 97. Not too much different, but diff none the less.
Aaron

yes but if you are going to 98, might as well get a 97, it will make things alot easier. plus its not like you need all the features of a 98+ or even 01+. if you are going to do a SFA, you really most wouldnt/shouldnt care about looks or interior features.
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I dont know about that. If hes going for a SAS at the same time he can spend the money on stuff that even i want to swap out sooner. manual tcase/ doubler comes to mind right away. all the really expensive **** for the ranger is in the front axle assemblies. I think it would be cheaper and much more beneficial just to convert the 2wd. think about this, pick up an axle, say d44 for 200, then rebuild, thats maybe a few more hundred. if you stuck with a mainly stock d44 assuming hes not gonna run anything over 35s right off hes still sitting pretty good relative to the ranger 4wd system. sure itll be more custom work, but its not like anything on the 4wd ranger will switch over to the SAS anyway. youll need a new steering box, tie rods, drag link, trac bar, coils and link setup/ leaf springs, hangers and shackles.

also not to mention the money he loses on trade in. the only thing i can think of that would be beneficial is if the setup behind the tranny on a 4wd is completely different, which i would ASSUME 9 i dont know for sure) that you could just swith shafts to get a tcase on there...
i see what youre saying, but i think in this guys case, its one of those "if you have to ask, you probably shouldnt be doing it anyway" situations. if he has to ask on the internet to know what kind of stuff you need for a conversion, i doubt he should be doing it. he should just sell his 2wd, buy a 4x4 and get on with life, IMO.
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