Off-Road Bumpers for Rangers....
#26
10-30-2009
well... I was told to come check out this site because there was a little rant about my products.... so I guess I will answer some questions, and put up some defense too...
there is no way you could make 20 bumpers in your garage out of 3/16th for the price of one of mine, you would be hard pressed factoring in just materials, not anything else, to get 2 in your garage for that price... go to any custom fab shop and ask for a bumper that is up to par with ours custom made and they will charge around 4k for it... we have custom guys calling us and buying our stuff with no logos and selling them as their own because they try and beat someones price and realize they will lose money after the fact... if you look at steel prices, they arent cheap right now... if you have the tools and have the skill and most of all the time to build something in your garage, by all means please do... you are one of the lucky few....
as for our bumpers... they are full 3/16th plate steel corner to corner mounts and all, there is no 12 gauge like the chinese made stuff that you can find for $300-$800 OUT THERE... there is no cutting of the frame what so ever, and they are engineered to have the best fitment around, we do not use filler plates ANYWHERE, it is made to fit the vehicle application you purchase it for... it comes standard with the light buckets, the shackle mounts and the winch mount... I do not try and rip you off and charge more for the "add-ons" which should be standard.... I also have 5 grille guard options which you can add on at additional cost if you so desire...
WE TAKE CUSTOMER SERVICE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT ANYONE ELSE WILL THOUGH.... we offer a 100% lifetime smash warranty... i dont care if you run into a brick wall at 100 mph... if you find a way to bend or break this bumper, we will replace it at no charge except for shipping... we do not have any loopholes what so ever.... this is the last bumper you will ever have to buy (at least for your current truck)....
Now I didnt come on here to pimp or plug my products... I came on because I was asked to come on by a member... so I figured I would make sure have all the facts and information straight.... if you want any more information or what not, I can answer questions as long as the admin here dont mind me hanging around
there is no way you could make 20 bumpers in your garage out of 3/16th for the price of one of mine, you would be hard pressed factoring in just materials, not anything else, to get 2 in your garage for that price... go to any custom fab shop and ask for a bumper that is up to par with ours custom made and they will charge around 4k for it... we have custom guys calling us and buying our stuff with no logos and selling them as their own because they try and beat someones price and realize they will lose money after the fact... if you look at steel prices, they arent cheap right now... if you have the tools and have the skill and most of all the time to build something in your garage, by all means please do... you are one of the lucky few....
as for our bumpers... they are full 3/16th plate steel corner to corner mounts and all, there is no 12 gauge like the chinese made stuff that you can find for $300-$800 OUT THERE... there is no cutting of the frame what so ever, and they are engineered to have the best fitment around, we do not use filler plates ANYWHERE, it is made to fit the vehicle application you purchase it for... it comes standard with the light buckets, the shackle mounts and the winch mount... I do not try and rip you off and charge more for the "add-ons" which should be standard.... I also have 5 grille guard options which you can add on at additional cost if you so desire...
WE TAKE CUSTOMER SERVICE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT ANYONE ELSE WILL THOUGH.... we offer a 100% lifetime smash warranty... i dont care if you run into a brick wall at 100 mph... if you find a way to bend or break this bumper, we will replace it at no charge except for shipping... we do not have any loopholes what so ever.... this is the last bumper you will ever have to buy (at least for your current truck)....
Now I didnt come on here to pimp or plug my products... I came on because I was asked to come on by a member... so I figured I would make sure have all the facts and information straight.... if you want any more information or what not, I can answer questions as long as the admin here dont mind me hanging around
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Has anyone ever heard "You get what you pay for?
If you have the skills to make a bumper like that then kudos to you.
But those of us with no welding experience or tools would not be able to contruct a bumper of that caliber for $1,500. Is it steep? Yes. But if your off roading doesn't require it then don't buy it.
Some people take the time to learn to make this stuff other people make money to just buy it.
Personally I appreciate any after-market company that gives the ford ranger a second glance.
If you have the skills to make a bumper like that then kudos to you.
But those of us with no welding experience or tools would not be able to contruct a bumper of that caliber for $1,500. Is it steep? Yes. But if your off roading doesn't require it then don't buy it.
Some people take the time to learn to make this stuff other people make money to just buy it.
Personally I appreciate any after-market company that gives the ford ranger a second glance.
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guys, this is a total rip off. im sorry. its true you DO get what you pay for "most" of the time. in this case though $1500 for a plate bumper like this is about double what its worth. Just my opinion.
I have the "Sea-Bass" bumper by Custom 4x4 Fabrication and it was around $500 delivered (no Black Shield paint though... lol). There are plenty of options for bumpers out there, maybe not much in the mass produced aftermarket, but any competent welder should be able to make whatever you can dream up. And for less than $1500.
I have the "Sea-Bass" bumper by Custom 4x4 Fabrication and it was around $500 delivered (no Black Shield paint though... lol). There are plenty of options for bumpers out there, maybe not much in the mass produced aftermarket, but any competent welder should be able to make whatever you can dream up. And for less than $1500.
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I just got an email back from Jesse at Iron Bull regarding the years their bumpers will fit. They say it was made for an '05 to a '10 ranger, but if memory serves the mounting for the bumper and the shape of the front valance are all the same from +98. Does anyone know what is different on the '93 to '97 rangers?
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I just got an email back from Jesse at Iron Bull regarding the years their bumpers will fit. They say it was made for an '05 to a '10 ranger, but if memory serves the mounting for the bumper and the shape of the front valance are all the same from +98. Does anyone know what is different on the '93 to '97 rangers?
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only trucks we have messed with are 05 and newer... if they will fit older, great... if we get 100% YES THEY DO, then we will market them... and you guys keep saying 1500 this and 1500 that... you do realize that there is a special going on so they are less money.... and that seabass bumper is no where near the caliber of our bumper... i would gladly put mine against it anyday of the week and see which one will hold up to the trail better.... i would even stake a full refund on it because I know mine would surpass it in every way possible, including styling....
now fo you guys who keep saying the price is too much... keep in mind, steel is up again in price... shipping is expensive, employees are expensive... i dont outsource my stuff to china... these are good old american made, american sweat, american pride, american quality bumpers... i dont pay a kid pennies a day to weld... I have hard working americans working in my factory... I have overhead too for advertising, i have the building and all the utilities and I have all the employees... plus machinery isnt cheap... I understand you guys are on a budget but like it was said above, if it doesnt fit in your world, then dont buy it... but we wanted to offer something of our quality in an area where NO ONE has a bumper to compete with us.... and just FYI just because you make big bucks doesnt mean you buy a big truck... I know plenty of people who drive rangers, colorados, tacomas, and frontiers that make good money and dont flaunt it.... a friend of mine use to play professional baseball and he is loaded and he drive a Jeep Wrangler... but thats a different topic all together....
now fo you guys who keep saying the price is too much... keep in mind, steel is up again in price... shipping is expensive, employees are expensive... i dont outsource my stuff to china... these are good old american made, american sweat, american pride, american quality bumpers... i dont pay a kid pennies a day to weld... I have hard working americans working in my factory... I have overhead too for advertising, i have the building and all the utilities and I have all the employees... plus machinery isnt cheap... I understand you guys are on a budget but like it was said above, if it doesnt fit in your world, then dont buy it... but we wanted to offer something of our quality in an area where NO ONE has a bumper to compete with us.... and just FYI just because you make big bucks doesnt mean you buy a big truck... I know plenty of people who drive rangers, colorados, tacomas, and frontiers that make good money and dont flaunt it.... a friend of mine use to play professional baseball and he is loaded and he drive a Jeep Wrangler... but thats a different topic all together....
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we offer a second line that is a little less expensive, no winch mount, no shackle mounts and only 2 light buckets... but unlike the Iron Bull, it is 12 gauge and doesnt carry the warranty...
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Bill,
Something you need to understand about this site is that most members are in the 16 to 25 age group. The average price paid for each member's truck is probably around $15,000. And more than a few of them are driving mall crawlers or don't actually have access to trails that require heavy-duty off road equipment. The typical buyer for bumpers of your caliber are older and are able to afford full size half ton and up trucks and be able to modify them.
Please don't take this as an endorcement to abandon any products for the ranger, its just people will want to at least see the bumpers on a ranger before buying and ideally see its performance against obstacles.
Something you need to understand about this site is that most members are in the 16 to 25 age group. The average price paid for each member's truck is probably around $15,000. And more than a few of them are driving mall crawlers or don't actually have access to trails that require heavy-duty off road equipment. The typical buyer for bumpers of your caliber are older and are able to afford full size half ton and up trucks and be able to modify them.
Please don't take this as an endorcement to abandon any products for the ranger, its just people will want to at least see the bumpers on a ranger before buying and ideally see its performance against obstacles.
#44
11-01-2009
Bill,
Something you need to understand about this site is that most members are in the 16 to 25 age group. The average price paid for each member's truck is probably around $15,000. And more than a few of them are driving mall crawlers or don't actually have access to trails that require heavy-duty off road equipment. The typical buyer for bumpers of your caliber are older and are able to afford full size half ton and up trucks and be able to modify them.
Please don't take this as an endorcement to abandon any products for the ranger, its just people will want to at least see the bumpers on a ranger before buying and ideally see its performance against obstacles.
Something you need to understand about this site is that most members are in the 16 to 25 age group. The average price paid for each member's truck is probably around $15,000. And more than a few of them are driving mall crawlers or don't actually have access to trails that require heavy-duty off road equipment. The typical buyer for bumpers of your caliber are older and are able to afford full size half ton and up trucks and be able to modify them.
Please don't take this as an endorcement to abandon any products for the ranger, its just people will want to at least see the bumpers on a ranger before buying and ideally see its performance against obstacles.
I bet most people on this site spent $10K or less for their trucks and bought them used, but thats a different story.
Yeah most of the trucks here are mall crawlers (including mine of course) but if this guy here can reach even one or two customers on this site that might warrant a product of the caliber he is producing it will have been worth it for him to come here. He sounds proud of his product, and I can respect that. It looks like a quality product and even though you can get the look for less, i doubt youll get the same performance as what this one has to offer. Ive got no use for one but I can respect a person that is proud enough of his company to show up here and speak up about his product here.
Also, as was said earlier in the thread. Not everyone that has the coin shows it off. I know a couple that bring in over $250K a year and they drive a 98 Honda CRV and an 03 Nissan Frontier SC for their personal cars.
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Ok, do me a favor and go check out warn winches and PIAA lights... that combination alone is 1500... so if I dont pay my employees or utilities, and just give you the materials, you think its fair? I mean come on bro... think about it....
we offer a second line that is a little less expensive, no winch mount, no shackle mounts and only 2 light buckets... but unlike the Iron Bull, it is 12 gauge and doesnt carry the warranty...
we offer a second line that is a little less expensive, no winch mount, no shackle mounts and only 2 light buckets... but unlike the Iron Bull, it is 12 gauge and doesnt carry the warranty...
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im just glad your building something for a truck that doesnt have much aftermarket suport as it is. i would love to have one of your bumpers on my truck but i have no idea how well it would bit my 94 and i cant afford the price. but again i am glad you are build something for the ranger thanks again.
im just glad your building something for a truck that doesnt have much aftermarket suport as it is. i would love to have one of your bumpers on my truck but i have no idea how well it would bit my 94 and i cant afford the price. but again i am glad you are build something for the ranger thanks again.
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