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rotors question

i wasn't sure where to post this, so i went general discussion. anyways....

i had my truck in for a servicing and told them about how the truck felt when i come to a stop. it felt like the rotors were warped or starting to. they looked at it and when i got the report back, it says they found the same problem on a road test, machined the rotors (under warrenty), took another drive and the problem was fixed.

my question is, my truck has 36k kms and is this too early for the rotors to be needing this done? i drive a combo of mostly city/ some freeway so i understand the brakes getting more heat then normal but i feel that i should have gone another 10-15k before this happened.

anyone else have this issue with theirs?
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i found that cheap pads will give the feel of warping. I had a pulse in my pedal and I replaced the pads with some monroe ultra dust free performance ones and the pulse went away. I would change your pads as well soon.

I warped a rotor hitting a puddle after slowing down gradually on a freeway off ramp in a different vehicle. It really doesn't take much.
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it's not from the pedal, that feels firm. the report and from what i felt says its the felt throughout the whole truck. the pads are stock and have 6mm for lining left and are still in the "green zone" but about to go into the "yellow zone"
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oh yeah i meant like pulse when you slow down. not necessarily from the pedal you know?

I dunno. I was going through rotors on the track ***** like they were going out of style when i was taking that thing on road courses. Now that its just autox i dont care much. They are pretty easy to warp.
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ok. thanks.
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lets see my truck has 48k miles on it. Im on the original pad and original rotors still with no warping and plenty of life left to go!
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In my experience it greatly depends on the driver and how they break. For instance my father waits much longer to initiate breaking than I do, and he stops in a much shorter period of time and I have done rotors on his van with 60k twice now, while my truck has had the same rotors since I bought it.
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i do tend to wait those few extra seconds sometimes....

see chris, i was hoping to be arond the 50k mark also. my stepdad is the same way i am and went 140k on the same rotors with his 96 neon. he always used his trans to slowdown.

i do kno there is two different pads for the front. the ones that squeek and the ones that don't. i remember marie mentioning this in the past. but i don't remember if they wore quicker or if there was warpage issues.
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The more i think about this my 99 used to eat rotors like they were nothing. I remember having to change them after 15k miles one time.
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my rotors were warped at 16,000 kilometers

the rear drums were also slightly warped

so the dealer replaced all of the brake parts under warranty
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16k? wow! were you riding your brakes alot? what is your driving style and is it all city or is there highway in there?
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i had the same issue with my stock pad/ rotor combo. i turned the rotors and it didnt help so i switched to hawke pads with some cheapo slotted rotors and it improved my braking 100%. no more fade and no more pulsing. my stock brakes would fade so bad it was scary. i actually got that brake combo cheaper than you can buy the stock crap for.
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really. did you upgrade before or after you get larger tires?

do you have a site for those parts? did you notice if they lasted longer then the stock stuff?
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no i do not ride my brakes

dealer determined that the rotors and drums were a bad casting batch

supposedly there was a TSB out about them
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what year is your truck cheeseman? i wasn't insulting just taken back at the milage and threw things out there. could be location too, PNW guys/gals are all up and down unlike others such as myself who don't know what a hill is.
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really. did you upgrade before or after you get larger tires?

do you have a site for those parts? did you notice if they lasted longer then the stock stuff?
i upgraded last spring so i already had the larger tires. even when i had the stock tires my brakes sucked, but it made them worse with the 33's. the hawke pads put out alot less dust as well.
i got my parts from Auto Parts Warehouse | Car Parts, Truck Parts & Auto Body Parts Online - Free Shipping on most Auto Accessories & Performance Parts AutoPartsWarehouse the prices fluctuate a little, just look out for sales/ coupons ect. honestly, any rotor with work fine, the pads are what really made the difference.
these are the rotors i got Powerstop Front Brake Disc Slotted

with these pads
Hawk Front Brake Pad Set LTS Ferro-carbon
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thanks patrick
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no problem! just be sure to follow the break in procedure for the pads if you get them. from what ive been told its very important to break them in properly. i would assume the same would go for any new pad, but these were the first set of pads ive seen that came with break in instructions.
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it is a 2008 xl reg cab 4 banger

soon to be 2007 ranger fx4 off-road

with all the toys ( including turn signals in the mirrors ? )

supposedly it has heated mirrors as well( i will believe that when take delivery of it )
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my rotors developed a good warp at about 40K. I wasnt even going to attempt to turn that warp out and I had plenty of pad left so I just lived with it for another 15K miles.
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no problem! just be sure to follow the break in procedure for the pads if you get them. from what ive been told its very important to break them in properly. i would assume the same would go for any new pad, but these were the first set of pads ive seen that came with break in instructions.
Alot of performance pads have a break in period. I've run mintex, ebc, hawk, brembo, etc. I've always dug hawk for price and bite.

As far as the rotor warpage, it depends on pad material, what materials are in the rotor, climate, driver, tires, age, specs, ever been machined before, etc.

My rotors have about 80k on them, and still fine. Just about to go under min. specs, so due for replacement next time. I've seen them last 150k, I've seen them last 7k.

Nothing beats a volvo and eating rotors though. I'm talking replace every brake job, maybe once in between.
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thread revival. i'm looking up brakes to purchase sincei know i'm gettin close to the end for the fronts.

my question is this: the links that patrick gave me, the front brake pads' quantity says "set of 2" does that mean that both sides come with or do i have to purchase 2 of an item?
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A few months back i upgraded to stoptech slotted rotors and EBC yellow stuff brake pads, because my old rotors/ brake pads were warped and old. I think i've allready warped my stoptech's. WTF. I have to find a tougher combination. But i am the kind of driver that slams on the brakes at the last second. That's probably my problem.
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i saw the yellow stuff pads and was curious about their performance.
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a set refers to 2 pieces

so it says that a set of 2 ,, so it means 4 pads al-together
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