Buy a new truck?
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10-16-2008
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Buy a new truck?
I built a truck. Base XL. Talk about limited.
Base price : $14,185.
2.3/5speed manual
Only offers a 7.5 axle with no limited slip.
225$ to tint glass?
800$ for A/C?
Vinal seats, cloth run a couple hundred more in a 60/40 setup?!!?
I don't have to pay Destination/Delivery charges, I have a Transporter plate and can roll anything in the DDC even if its not registered nor inspected. That saves 825$.. Rather they won't be able to tack it onto the cost.
Add in 9% sales tax to the 14.2K.. 15 grand for a base model/stripper Ranger? I can't even get the paint color I want. LOL! I payed 12,200$ in 03 from my present truck and it had a SOHC engine, Extended cab, LS Axle, MP3 stereo.. They wonder why sales are down!
I'd rather snag one off the lot where I work, an 06/07 lease turn in for under 8 grand instead of being robbed and mod the hell out of it.
I think I see why ranger sales dropped.
Base price : $14,185.
2.3/5speed manual
Only offers a 7.5 axle with no limited slip.
225$ to tint glass?
800$ for A/C?
Vinal seats, cloth run a couple hundred more in a 60/40 setup?!!?
I don't have to pay Destination/Delivery charges, I have a Transporter plate and can roll anything in the DDC even if its not registered nor inspected. That saves 825$.. Rather they won't be able to tack it onto the cost.
Add in 9% sales tax to the 14.2K.. 15 grand for a base model/stripper Ranger? I can't even get the paint color I want. LOL! I payed 12,200$ in 03 from my present truck and it had a SOHC engine, Extended cab, LS Axle, MP3 stereo.. They wonder why sales are down!
I'd rather snag one off the lot where I work, an 06/07 lease turn in for under 8 grand instead of being robbed and mod the hell out of it.
I think I see why ranger sales dropped.
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I have to agree with you D., when I was at the dealership getting my brakes done (couldn't do it myself, way too much corrosion/rusting together to not get it off without an air tool), I strolled over to the new Rangers. And you couldn't hit the nail on the head any better than you did....The colors are limited, the interior looks cheap, and the $800 for A/C isn't helping the window sticker appeal either. Way too plain for my liking. And as you also said, there are 06/07's for at most $10k at auctions......
Why Ford has decided to degrade the Ranger is beyond me (Phasing in the F100?), the new Mazda's don't seem to bad though......
Why Ford has decided to degrade the Ranger is beyond me (Phasing in the F100?), the new Mazda's don't seem to bad though......
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Agreed. I "built" my XLT online and then went to the local dealer and ordered my truck, which MSRP'd for $19,700 - when my truck arrived 2 months later I paid the discounted price of (which included 2 cash back offers and "employee pricing" discount) only $15,400.00 that we agreed on 2 months earlier. 
A Toyota Tacoma has a $15,900 base price, but I think that comes with limited slip. Tint and AC would add another $1185, but I doubt that the Toyota has enough "standard equipment" to justify the extra $1,700+ added to the base price. You can't even get power windows or door locks on a 2008 Tacoma unless you upgrade to a larger cab - no matter what level of trim you pick on a regular cab, you still get manual locks and window cranks. At least that's what I understood when I was thinking about a Toyota.
A Toyota Tacoma has a $15,900 base price, but I think that comes with limited slip. Tint and AC would add another $1185, but I doubt that the Toyota has enough "standard equipment" to justify the extra $1,700+ added to the base price. You can't even get power windows or door locks on a 2008 Tacoma unless you upgrade to a larger cab - no matter what level of trim you pick on a regular cab, you still get manual locks and window cranks. At least that's what I understood when I was thinking about a Toyota.
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10-16-2008
Here is a little car sales weenie "tip".
The end of the month is when you want to "deal". Often times they have incentives based on amount of cars sold during the month.
So.. if sales weenie Joe can break the 15 unit mark, the commission they "earn" is greater for all the units they sold that month. It's a "chance" on the buyers part. But if you walk onto a lot on the 23rd-25th of a month you stand a better chance of saving a little than at other times during the month. Not all dealerships do it this way. But they in someway try to motivate thier sales weenies to "move units".
As far as used vs new.. in this 2008-2009 market used is the way to go IMO.
Rich
The end of the month is when you want to "deal". Often times they have incentives based on amount of cars sold during the month.
So.. if sales weenie Joe can break the 15 unit mark, the commission they "earn" is greater for all the units they sold that month. It's a "chance" on the buyers part. But if you walk onto a lot on the 23rd-25th of a month you stand a better chance of saving a little than at other times during the month. Not all dealerships do it this way. But they in someway try to motivate thier sales weenies to "move units".
As far as used vs new.. in this 2008-2009 market used is the way to go IMO.
Rich
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10-16-2008
Yeah... your best bet is always to find one on the lot. I built/ordered mine in July of '07, it was on the second load of '08s to come into the local dealership. MSRP is like 27K on my truck but because I buy through fleet and had a few incentives the price was closer to 23K. I had to take whatever deals were offered at time of delivery so I didn't get any of that high $ stuff 'cause it was still so early in the year. I love my truck though and couldn't be happier with it. I had to laugh when I went to the lot and they were asking 27K for the twin to mine (with a few different options) just about a month ago... they finally sold it though.
My biggest thing about getting a new one was I wanted fully loaded except with manual trans and I wanted a mint truck with warranty. I figured I'd start from scratch and keep it forever....
My biggest thing about getting a new one was I wanted fully loaded except with manual trans and I wanted a mint truck with warranty. I figured I'd start from scratch and keep it forever....
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It has never been a better time to buy a truck of any size. I've got to encourage you to look at the Mazda dealers at their inventory. I paid significantly less for my B4000 than I would have for a Ranger, hands down and I've got literally every option offered. Granted, this is Texas and I bought it from a mega Mazda dealer with way too much inventory during the fuel crisis, but go take a look. I had to go to Austin to find a dealer with any 4x4's in stock and they had plenty. At the time, they were selling base 2.3 4x2's with your choice of manual or automatic for $10,995...plus a 500 discount if you brought an internet coupon. And that's without any negotiation, mind you. All had A/C and no other options.
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MSRP doesn't mean much. Go see what dealers are selling them for.
The Ranger has actually had the smallest drop in sales recently. That's why Ford extended production into 2011. The Ranger seems to be the ONLY truck unaffected by recent economic events. All the others had double digit % sales drops recently.
The Ranger has actually had the smallest drop in sales recently. That's why Ford extended production into 2011. The Ranger seems to be the ONLY truck unaffected by recent economic events. All the others had double digit % sales drops recently.
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10-16-2008
They didnt admit it but they also held onto the Ranger because it helps them meet EPA regulations for the required fuel efficiency for the fleet. The Ranger helps compensate for them big pretty Super Duties
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X2 on that! My roommates buddy just got an 05 Cummins 2500 with like 25,000 on it for like $12,000 out the door. That is a ****ing steal!!!
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yeah, plus I feel they are cutting corners in VERY inappropriate ways!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go look under a new mustang in the lot, hell, in a showroom.... the rear axle is RUSTY!!! NEW!!! because they were TOO FING CHEAP TO COAT THE AXLE TUBES WITH ANYTHING!!! They are bare steel!! What is that Bull Sh*t!?
Go look under a new mustang in the lot, hell, in a showroom.... the rear axle is RUSTY!!! NEW!!! because they were TOO FING CHEAP TO COAT THE AXLE TUBES WITH ANYTHING!!! They are bare steel!! What is that Bull Sh*t!?
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I walked our Lot today, had to go to work for a ' sexual harrassment ' meeting ( we all had to go in, mandatory ).
Theres a slew of 06/07's there. I might have found one I'm interested in. I need to check on what FMC/COP wants for the red-carpet turn-in buyoff and go with 50% of it. See if they take the offer.
Its an Oxford white reg cab. Steel wheels, power-nothing 2.3/5s manual. Like a fleet truck. It has a bedliner and nothing else, just a base radio. I do NOT like the front end of it. Has the stupid looking super-duty style grill in matte black ( will be the first thing I scrap off of it ). 31,000 on the odo. I also need to pull the record jacket on it and take a look at its maintenance records.
I figure if I could snag it for 5grand, 5% financing ( I'll pay it off before its time. LONG before I bail on the DDC. ) , the payments would be roughly 90$/month.
Theres a slew of 06/07's there. I might have found one I'm interested in. I need to check on what FMC/COP wants for the red-carpet turn-in buyoff and go with 50% of it. See if they take the offer.
Its an Oxford white reg cab. Steel wheels, power-nothing 2.3/5s manual. Like a fleet truck. It has a bedliner and nothing else, just a base radio. I do NOT like the front end of it. Has the stupid looking super-duty style grill in matte black ( will be the first thing I scrap off of it ). 31,000 on the odo. I also need to pull the record jacket on it and take a look at its maintenance records.
I figure if I could snag it for 5grand, 5% financing ( I'll pay it off before its time. LONG before I bail on the DDC. ) , the payments would be roughly 90$/month.
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10-16-2008
yeah, plus I feel they are cutting corners in VERY inappropriate ways!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go look under a new mustang in the lot, hell, in a showroom.... the rear axle is RUSTY!!! NEW!!! because they were TOO FING CHEAP TO COAT THE AXLE TUBES WITH ANYTHING!!! They are bare steel!! What is that Bull Sh*t!?
Go look under a new mustang in the lot, hell, in a showroom.... the rear axle is RUSTY!!! NEW!!! because they were TOO FING CHEAP TO COAT THE AXLE TUBES WITH ANYTHING!!! They are bare steel!! What is that Bull Sh*t!?
No rust here.(not a mustang tho)
