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Suspension concerns - Weight of 2.5 vs 5.0???

Does anyone know the weights of the fully assembled 2.5L Lima and/or the 302 5.0L?

I'm concerned with my front coil springs handling the weight of the 5.0, and would like to know before I drop the motor in!

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soundn't be a problem......your springs are the same ones they put in the 4.0 2wd trucks, and the 4.0 is a heavy little beast........the 4.0 almost weights as much as a 5.0....
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- 2.5 Lima = ~ 450#
- 5.0 = ~ 520#
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But is there anyone who knows how much the 2.5L Lima weighs?
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But is there anyone who knows how much the 2.5L Lima weighs?
It's too bad you live 528 miles away. I would be willing to meet you halfway if it wasn't an all-day trip!

Have you checked the price of a rebuilt motor through the dealer or Auto Parts stores?
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But is there anyone who knows how much the 2.5L Lima weighs?
please see above....
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If you can hold onto the motor until summer, I live in Dallas, which is 200 miles closer to you. That'd make it a half-day trip! haha.
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please see above....
Ah, missed that. We posted at the same time. Thanks!

I didn't realize that was such a heavy motor. The Chevy 4.3L Vortec weighs ~425! The Chevy is about as heavy as most people go to swap into a Sammi... so the 2.5L would be pushing it as well...
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notta problem.....that is why i re-directed ya...
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If you can hold onto the motor until summer, I live in Dallas, which is 200 miles closer to you. That'd make it a half-day trip! haha.
When's summer? lol...my 5.0 swap is pending the sale of the transmission and engine.

Dallas is much better. I could meet ya around Oklahoma City or something, which I can get to in a few hours. I doubt the Kia Spectra would hold a 2.5L in the trunk, so I may have to strap it on top of the roof!!! LOL I'd be taking my dad's F-250, actually, unless the 5.0 is done.
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Well I'm done with class at the first part of May, after which I'll likely head home for atleast a few days. OKC wouldn't be a bad place to meet up around that time then. How much are you looking to get for the engine/transmission?
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When's summer? lol...my 5.0 swap is pending the sale of the transmission and engine.

Dallas is much better. I could meet ya around Oklahoma City or something, which I can get to in a few hours. I doubt the Kia Spectra would hold a 2.5L in the trunk, so I may have to strap it on top of the roof!!! LOL I'd be taking my dad's F-250, actually, unless the 5.0 is done.
I got a manik grille guard, a massive 1/4" diamond plate skid plate, and an 03 valance in my 99 Kia Sephia =]
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I got a manik grille guard, a massive 1/4" diamond plate skid plate, and an 03 valance in my 99 Kia Sephia =]
I've got a KFX intake and other various mods to my 1.8L DOHC. It's a little rocket! I'm about to "bake" the headlights to remove the yellow reflectors and want an aftermarket grille to clean up the front end.
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lol I don't put a dime into the Kia unless I have to.

I beat the snot out of it and park it. I've had it for almost 4 years and never washed the pos. It was nice when I bought it though with 30k miles. She just hit 100k and still runs like a top though.
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soundn't be a problem......your springs are the same ones they put in the 4.0 2wd trucks, and the 4.0 is a heavy little beast....
Ford lists 5 different spring rates for the SLA coilspring Rangers. The rate is computer selected based on how the truck is equipped. Odds are that the springs used with a 4.0L and a 4-cylinder are different.
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When i put the 302 in my 88 which had the 2.0 in it, I had to but coil springs from a v6 with a/c in it to level it out.
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Ford lists 5 different spring rates for the SLA coilspring Rangers. The rate is computer selected based on how the truck is equipped. Odds are that the springs used with a 4.0L and a 4-cylinder are different.

Thank you, Bob.

More than likely I can expect a significant rake, huh? Will an overload of weight cause a bounciness to the suspension?
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I have a set of 3.0 ext cab springs just laying around if you would like to trade if you take them out, I just want to keep a set around just in case I ever put my truck back up to stock height or give them to whoever buys my truck if i ever sell it in the future.
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I doubt the 3.0 springs are much different than then 2.5 springs.
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More than likely I can expect a significant rake, huh? Will an overload of weight cause a bounciness to the suspension?
The 'bounciness' is more a function of the shock damping. The extra engine weight would cause the front to sit lower and might make it bottom out more frequently.
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The 'bounciness' is more a function of the shock damping. The extra engine weight would cause the front to sit lower and might make it bottom out more frequently.
Then just trim the bumpstops, and then the lower arm with the trimmed bumpstop wont hit the frame then if its trimmed or replace them with djm pancake ones.

Hell on my DJM arms which are a hell of a lot smaller than the stock ford arms, with djm bumpstops ive still bottomed out on it, I still never noticed it but I can see on the red bumpstop that it has in fact came in touch witht he frame. But then again I am running a 5.5 inch drop up front.

Honestly I cant see it dropping that much, and hell its basically a free drop somewhat I wouldnt complain...
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That's very true, Mark. I could trim the bump stops if I encounter some issues with them, however I would more than likely just change the coils to keep the correct spring rate.

Bob you're exactly right on the shock dampeners. I have a brand new set of Bilsteins on all 4 corners, along with both of the thicker versions of sway bars front and rear with Moog bushings. I know bounciness will not be of any concern.

If it rides lower than I'm used to seeing once I get the 5.0 dropped in, I'll start looking for a set of 4.0 coils. I want to keep the truck looking stock and sleeper-styled. A minor rake wouldn't bother me, however bottoming out will.
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