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Old Jan 30, 2015
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Torsion key question

If i put 3" keys and i crank the torsion bars will i get like 4" lift? Right know i have max crank t-bars and i want more! Don't talk to me about body lift!!!

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Can you? Sure.
Should you? Absolutely not.

Terrible idea.

Suspension lift, SAS, or body lift.


Dunno why so many people hate on body lifts. Nothing wrong with em.
 
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Originally Posted by x-offroad-x
If i put 3" keys and i crank the torsion bars will i get like 4" lift? Right know i have max crank t-bars and i want more! Don't talk to me about body lift!!!

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Let me suggest something.....

































Body Lift.. it's cheap, easy, reliable and your truck will ride the same, except taller. Getting taller lift keys and cranking those is just stupid. Have fun tearing through front end parts.
 
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don't listen to those guys.

Do it so we can get some comedy out of front end suspension parts failure, please.

but seriously, if you want different keys, get factory keys out of a 98-07 which will sit higher than yours by about 2"
 
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Body lift look ugly as f**k thanks for the answer i'll just wait and buy a superlift or swap for a solid axel.
 
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There is no way to get 4" of lift from cranking torsion bars or lift keys
 
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Originally Posted by x-offroad-x
Body lift look ugly as f**k thanks for the answer i'll just wait and buy a superlift or swap for a solid axel.
Uhh.. how do they look ugly?
 
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Uhh.. how do they look ugly?
He's probably referring to the frame exposure that a body lift creates. Which isn't much compared to a lot of trucks
 
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Originally Posted by x-offroad-x
Body lift look ugly as f**k
I'm sure girls say the same thing about you.

With that being said, Superlifts look just as bad as a body lift. Imagine all of those ugly drop brackets hanging down from the frame. Don't even get me started on stacking blocks and the torsion bar drop cradles.
 
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Originally Posted by Fordzilla80
I'm sure girls say the same thing about you.

With that being said, Superlifts look just as bad as a body lift. Imagine all of those ugly drop brackets hanging down from the frame. Don't even get me started on stacking blocks and the torsion bar drop cradles.
Exactly. Doesn't look any better. Worse really. Necessary evil.
 
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Lmao. Gotta love the people that think body lifts look ugly. Its a ranger. You barely see any frame at all.

Now if it was an s10... Yeah. Would look horrid with a body lift.
 
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Body lifts look fine on Rangers. They are cheap and don't mess with suspension geometry. If the TINY bit of frame that shows from the body lift bothers you, fork out the money for the super lift which also doesn't mess with suspension geometry.

Or you can be dumb and get lift keys and then have to constantly replace front suspension parts which will get expensive really fast. The choice is yours.
 
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Originally Posted by 00GreenRanger
Body lifts look fine on Rangers. They are cheap and don't mess with suspension geometry. If the TINY bit of frame that shows from the body lift bothers you, fork out the money for the super lift which also doesn't mess with suspension geometry.

Or you can be dumb and get lift keys and then have to constantly replace front suspension parts which will get expensive really fast. The choice is yours.
It'll mess with suspension geometry if he tries to crank the t-bars after the lift anyway.
 
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Originally Posted by RLong31
It'll mess with suspension geometry if he tries to crank the t-bars after the lift anyway.
I was assuming that he doesn't mess with the tbars if he did a body lift or super lift. If he did crank them, then obviously that would change the geometry. But just those two kits alone don't mess with it.
 
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Driveshaft angle is part of the suspension geometry, which changes with a Superlift
 
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The driveshaft has nothing to do with how the suspension behaves or cycles in this application. I'm talking suspension only... i.e. Control arm angles and what not. The driveshaft is a completely different topic when the focus is on the wear of ball joints, cv axles, and TRE's. My point is that the super lift won't cause additional wear to those components than a stock suspension truck would.
 
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Originally Posted by 00GreenRanger
The driveshaft has nothing to do with how the suspension behaves or cycles in this application. I'm talking suspension only... i.e. Control arm angles and what not. The driveshaft is a completely different topic when the focus is on the wear of ball joints, cv axles, and TRE's. My point is that the super lift won't cause additional wear to those components than a stock suspension truck would.
Increased driveshaft angle increase wear on the ujoints. U joints are part of the drivetrain.

I know what you mean though. I just include the drivetrain angles as part of the overall geometry
 
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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge
Increased driveshaft angle increase wear on the ujoints. U joints are part of the drivetrain. I know what you mean though. I just include the drivetrain angles as part of the overall geometry
Yeah I see what you mean about the u joints. I was just comparing how keys would effect the components involved with suspension movement vs how the super lift would effect them.
 
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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge
Increased driveshaft angle increase wear on the ujoints. U joints are part of the drivetrain.

I know what you mean though. I just include the drivetrain angles as part of the overall geometry
Since when does drivetrain mean suspension? No one is disagreeing that a super lift effects drive line angles. But that's easily fixed.
 
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Originally Posted by 06FordFX4
Since when does drivetrain mean suspension? No one is disagreeing that a super lift effects drive line angles. But that's easily fixed.
Thank you lol the driveshaft has nothing to do with suspension IMO. That's a drive train problem. It has nothing to do with the cycling of the suspension haha
 
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Damn guys, chill.

I'm not saying the drivelines are part of the suspension, but if you're comparing wear and tear a body lift causes vs a suspension lift U joints have to be included.

That's all I'm saying.
 
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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge
Damn guys, chill. I'm not saying the drivelines are part of the suspension, but if you're comparing wear and tear a body lift causes vs a suspension lift U joints have to be included. That's all I'm saying.
I am "chill" haha this is a stupid argument because we are on the same page. I just didn't want the OP to think that the driveshaft was a big problem because you can get one made by super lift that fixes the problem. Didn't mean to come off like a dick.

Anyways, no matter what lift you do there will be wear on parts. Whether it's from messing with torsion lift keys or just wear from bigger tires, parts will wear out. Or even the driveshaft like you said from the super lift causing the larger angle. I think we can all agree on this.
 
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if you have a 4in superlift and raise the torsion bar a little to level truck out, would that cause any problems? I just found out the other day my superlift driveshaft took a ****. Less than 5000 miles on this driveshaft. Superlift is sending me a new one, but im wondering if raising the tbar a bit caused the driveshaft failure. Tbar is only raised a hair to level truck. thats it.
 

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