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Old 04-27-2007
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No need for insurence on a bike, If i crash my body will be totaled with it most likely.
YES, YOU DO NEED INSURANCE. NO MORE DISCUSSION.
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and what about someone you hit or hits you on the bike? uninsured motorist insurance isnt cheap to carry, and can cause lots of problems.

you get the bike yet? pics? white and black sounds like a pretty nice lookin bike
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I know you already bought the bike, but here's my take on your situation:
-All vehicles are a crapshoot. You can get a car that lasts 300,000 miles with only tires, brakes, and oil changes, while other vehicles will last 10,000 miles and need a new transmission after getting the engine rebuilt and the differential replaced. But based on statistics MOST vehicles fall between those two extremes.
-ALL vehicles need preventative maintenance to both run and continue running throughout their life. Most of this maintenance is common: brakes, tires, oil changes, timing belt in a DOHC, fluid top offs, bearings, windshield wipers, bulbs, coolant drain/refill, etc. Some of this maintenance can be uncommon: your rear main seal, axles, differentials, transmission replacement, new engine, etc. Some vehicles may need the latter, others don't, so the cost can be expensive depending on plain luck, and/or what kind of vehicle it is. But considering that you're servicing a ford ranger and not a ferrari F-50, it should be relatively affordable.

Personally, I don't think a rear main seal does NOT seem like the kind of maintenance that falls under that common category. I doubt most people have to replace theirs. This may be expensive, but if it needs to get done, it needs to get done.

Now comes the issue of labor costs for repair: a lot of the major servicing required on a vehicle is complicated; most home mechanics don't have the appropriate tools to get them done. If you're only going to use a special tool once, sometimes it's not worth the hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars to get it. So you drop off it off at a shop to get the work done, but now it's going to take a loooong time to get it back, and you have to pay for the extensive labor costs.

Next is the operational costs of the truck: insurance, gas, parts for maintenance, etc. Add that all up, and yes, owning a truck is expensive. Heck, owning ANY vehicle can be expensive.

Now let's compare it to a bike:
-it's more dangerous in the event of an accident, and due to the increased hazard of road quality since you're only on 2 wheels: hands down
-bikes can STILL be a crapshoot in terms of maintenance
-bikes STILL require preventative maintenance
-on the long run, bikes can be more expensive for certain items: if you buy tires for a busa, it's going to run you at least $100/tire (if you get a bargain, cheap quality tire), plus $30/tire for mounting and balancing...not to mention it'll take a motorcycle shop ALL day (if not a week) to get it done...do this for a car, and you'll get in and out in a day
-bike tires only last 7-8,000 miles, so you'll be buying more expensive tires more frequently
-bikes require valve adjustment: full servicing at a shop can be upwards of $400
-bikes require chain/sprocket replacement every 15,000 miles


Now there's probably a lot that I'm missing here about bike maintenance, but in any case a busa isn't going to get great gas mileage because it's NOT a vehicle aimed at economy: it's designed to be fast...granted it'll be better than a ranger, it won't be much better than a civic/corolla, etc.

So if you're getting rid of the ranger because of costs of ownership, and maintenance, then really, you can't top the long term economical costs of a 4-cylinder econobox.

Get the busa if you want to go fast, and have fun as a secondary vehicle. If you need a primary commuter that's economical, get a toyota corolla or a honda civic.

Or be like me: save up for a toyota tacoma (based on statistics, will last longer without the need for major corrective maintenance like rear main seals, transmissions, etc.), with a 2.7L 4-cyl and get a smaller bike (5-600cc) for fun and economy (my bike gets 50+mpg on some days). I use BOTH for my commute based on the weather and carrying needs. And when I need to get servicing done on either vehicles, I can drive both to the service station and drive/ride the other one home.
Having owned/ridden all kinds of bikes for almost 50 years I agree with ALMOST everything you've written. I've had everything from a 250cc entry level twin to a 1500cc GoldWing. I've probably ridden more than 500,000 miles in almost all 48 states in all kinds of weather. Bikes are fun. But NOT as a D.D. Anyone that buys a bike thinking it's going to be cheaper to operate that a car/truck is in for a big surprise. Tires are one of the biggest expenses. They cost 2-3 time more than auto tires and last 25% as long. If you take the bike to the dealer for an oil change, plan on paying $75-100. That's oil/filter probably $20-25, plus 1 hr. labor, another $55-85. If you get a small bike, less than 500cc and ride it conservatively, you might get 55-65 MPG. My GoldWing usually got 42-44. However if I was riding 2 up, pulling a trailer, into a headwind, I've seen many 25-30 MPG tanks.
Good luck with the bike Nate. Not familiar with a busa, but I'm sure they're great. Having ridden in FL. the first "accessory" I would buy is a rain suit. It's not a question of "if" you get caught in the rain, but "when."


Now about the Tocomas. Like you said Bhavesh, it's a crapshoot. I've owned 2 in my life. An 82 and a 97. One was great, the other a dog. While they look good statistically, like everything else, you pays your money and you takes your chances. So far I've had my Ranger for 5 years and 75,000 miles. Except for tires, filters and lubes everything is original. Including brakes. I know and accept the fact that very soon I'll have to start "fixing things" or get rid of it. I plan to keep it and pass it along to my grandson. He turned 1 last month.
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Old 04-30-2007
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Hey why not swap a 5.0 into your ranger? busa's are cool, but more bike then i'd ever want.



I would love too :).

The ranger is fixed !!! i was happy the tranny shop did it with no questions and said sorry, bring it back if there are any problems.


Bike is fun, Havn't goten on it, took it up to Gaineville back, very very nice ride, I DO miss having music, I do love how everyone is friendly (other people on bikes) was sittin at a light on, arher and somthing near the college guy pulls right up and starts chatting my ears off.

Other news, got the ranger fog lights put on, replaced 3rd brake light.

Oh yeah somebody stole my spare tired (was sitting in the bed). So that made me sad.


Bike is uninsured at the moment, but after reading and talking i will have insurence, ranger is going to be taken down a notch and no longer full coverage (230 a month /wrist). Im happy though, I have my bike, I have my ranger :).
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Picture be coming up next week or so, buddy of mine is going to take pictures, has a really nice camera and he is going to make me a nice signature with the ranger and one with the bike.
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Having owned/ridden all kinds of bikes for almost 50 years I agree with ALMOST everything you've written. I've had everything from a 250cc entry level twin to a 1500cc GoldWing. I've probably ridden more than 500,000 miles in almost all 48 states in all kinds of weather. Bikes are fun. But NOT as a D.D. Anyone that buys a bike thinking it's going to be cheaper to operate that a car/truck is in for a big surprise. Tires are one of the biggest expenses. They cost 2-3 time more than auto tires and last 25% as long. If you take the bike to the dealer for an oil change, plan on paying $75-100. That's oil/filter probably $20-25, plus 1 hr. labor, another $55-85. If you get a small bike, less than 500cc and ride it conservatively, you might get 55-65 MPG. My GoldWing usually got 42-44. However if I was riding 2 up, pulling a trailer, into a headwind, I've seen many 25-30 MPG tanks.
Good luck with the bike Nate. Not familiar with a busa, but I'm sure they're great. Having ridden in FL. the first "accessory" I would buy is a rain suit. It's not a question of "if" you get caught in the rain, but "when."


Now about the Tocomas. Like you said Bhavesh, it's a crapshoot. I've owned 2 in my life. An 82 and a 97. One was great, the other a dog. While they look good statistically, like everything else, you pays your money and you takes your chances. So far I've had my Ranger for 5 years and 75,000 miles. Except for tires, filters and lubes everything is original. Including brakes. I know and accept the fact that very soon I'll have to start "fixing things" or get rid of it. I plan to keep it and pass it along to my grandson. He turned 1 last month.

Thanks alot, few people telling me how they actually turned there busa into touring bikes, pretty crazy, I love the comfort of it. Happy late bday to your granson :)
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uhg...I spent like 20 mins writing that response, and I don't even get quoted??

no fair

j/k...congrats on having things workout...I think the truck WITH a bike combo is one of the better ones out there...I've been fighting to do it for months now :)
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^ lol I thought it would of quoted both since he had you quoted, I actually saved it and another thing on excel haha =D
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Damn man, I missed this thread for a while...congrats.

You'll love the busa. One of the nicest bikes I've ever rode.

For those that doubt, it was my first road bike too. My dad said I could do it no problem, so I tried riding his busa one day, I had been hooked ever since. I've been riding since I could remember (probably 9-10) and I have a solid 10 years under me right now. Doesn't mean 10yrs on the road, but 10yrs riding.

You'll love that busa though. I remember doing 120, feeling like you are doing 80 on the hwy. Just whatch out, it's a LOT of bike. If you turn that throttle wrong, you'll end up on your *** real quick. But thats w/ any bike really. Just use your head and get insurrance. I didn't have insurrance but we lived in another state. I didn't have insurrance but my dad did. He said it was important to have insurrance.
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