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what to do about a failing transmission?

took it to a tranny shop today and just after driving it they assume its internal damage and that it seems as if the torque converter is deteriorating and going through the tranny. that it all has something to do with it coming out of gear on hard downshifts. idk the truth to that. they said its only a matter of time till it grenades itself.

what are my options. they said it would be around 2200 to get it taken out and rebuilt. no way i have that kind of cash.

i think it would almost be cheaper to buy a used trans and swap it in myself.. ?

idk what should i do? need the cheapest option
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i looked into this when i was having trans issues and i discovered that you can get a brand new ford trans for around $2000, but yes, a used trans would be much cheaper. around here, a decent low mileage used trans will go for $500-$700. whats your trans doing?
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if it were me id do a manual swap then you wont have to worry about junk autos
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id swap in a used one.


what is it doing exactly? how many miles? when is the last time you changed the fluid?
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if it were me id do a manual swap then you wont have to worry about junk autos
what and have to deal with the slave issues with them? pass. lol
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id swap in a used one.


what is it doing exactly? how many miles? when is the last time you changed the fluid?
sometimes at higher speeds on the highway on a slightly hard downshift it'll go to downshift and just pop into neutral. if i let off the gas and let the RPM's go back down it goes back into gear and i go about my way. it does this maybe 20% of the time.

truck has 42k miles on it. i got it with 7k miles on it. but i know since i've had it i havent changed the fluid or anything. thats what i originally went to do but they didn't have time today. nor did I. i still want a second opinion and to change the fluid to see what that does...
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ZF6 swap?
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it kind of sounds to me like its slipping. does it do it in a downshift under power, like when you accelerate to pass?
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it kind of sounds to me like its slipping. does it do it in a downshift under power, like when you accelerate to pass?
yeah pretty much
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change the fluid. its due.

also a torque converter is like 100 bucks, drop it and put a new one on. i would at least try that first.

also you have 35s with a stock gear, its going through a ton of stress. the torque converter might be going junk. just replace it and try that.

also to check the VB put it in first then drive in a parking lot, bring it up to speed and see if it stays in gear when you let off and actually slows the truck down on its own, if it does then it is at least holding pressure.
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that it does do. i recently tried that (just for fun lol) and it does stay in first and slow down
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drop the transmission, put a new torque converter in and refill the transmission.
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it wouldnt hurt to adjust the bands either. i was having similar symptoms with mine except it was slipping under hard accel at all speeds. i ran it down the road with the scanner on it and watched the trans perimeters and discovered the EPC solenoid voltage was wacky. after the trans shop told me my trans was toast and needed a rebuild, as a last ditch effort i flushed the trans, replaced the EPC solenoid and adjusted the bands and it improved 90%. it still slips at full throttle on occasion, but the $120 i spent on fluid, filter and solenoid got me through the summer and a few silver lake dune trips. lol
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I thought you were re-gearing? If it were me I would re-gear and then fix the tranny. Why replace the parts that are just going to continue to get so much stress on them? IMO Re-gear and then put in a new TC and change the fluid.
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it wouldnt hurt to adjust the bands either. i was having similar symptoms with mine except it was slipping under hard accel at all speeds. i ran it down the road with the scanner on it and watched the trans perimeters and discovered the EPC solenoid voltage was wacky. after the trans shop told me my trans was toast and needed a rebuild, as a last ditch effort i flushed the trans, replaced the EPC solenoid and adjusted the bands and it improved 90%. it still slips at full throttle on occasion, but the $120 i spent on fluid, filter and solenoid got me through the summer and a few silver lake dune trips. lol
how easy of a task is it to adjust the bands? two of my friends have taken and passed several tranny classes and are down to help. im sure they'd know but still.
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break the nut loose, tighten the bolt to so many inch lbs then back it off 1.5 turns, the tighten the nut again.

N3ELZ wrote a how to on it.
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where shoudl i go about purchasing a TC from? and which fluid do i need to go with

tranny newb here lol
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how easy of a task is it to adjust the bands? two of my friends have taken and passed several tranny classes and are down to help. im sure they'd know but still.
read through this post from RPS, it has some great info as well as a link to a write up on adjusting the bands. it requires an inch pound torque wrench and a little patience. its worth a shot. O/D Off Flashing? Read Me First! (Auto Tranny General Information) - Ranger Power Sports Forum
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gotcha

also should i look into installing a shift kit while i have the ***** opened up?
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check with the dealer first but...

A4LD, 4R44E, 4R55E, 5R55E HEAVY DUTY Torque Converter : eBay Motors (item 230451712911 end time Mar-30-10 0008 PDT)

also i think 07 still had the 5r55e, i hope it doesnt have the 5r55w that one seems to be much more.
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gotcha

also should i look into installing a shift kit while i have the ***** opened up?
PM NicksterSVT for a while he was selling 5r55e upgrade kits.
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check with the dealer first but...

A4LD, 4R44E, 4R55E, 5R55E HEAVY DUTY Torque Converter : eBay Motors (item 230451712911 end time Mar-30-10 0008 PDT)

also i think 07 still had the 5r55e, i hope it doesnt have the 5r55w that one seems to be much more.
is there anything in the truck i can look at th verify which trans i have>?
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look on the case of the transmission, that is all i know.
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gotcha. **** dont even know where to start with all of this lol. guess i should start ordering the parts..

vatozone should be able to get a torque converter for me right?
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what and have to deal with the slave issues with them? pass. lol
I don't see how people have slave issues. I've been rockin my same slave and trans for the past year and not had 1 problem...

I say manual swap it. My thread more than tells you what you need to know and how to go about doing so. You could manual swap it and manual case the sucker for $2000 man... Seriously, think about it.
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