First a crank sensor cost $142.95 for a sensor that looks like it just uses magnets to judge were the crank shaft is at by watching the pully spin, second they really have to put a sensor in that that completely inhibits the engine if it goes out i mean really, third you have to take the crank pully off to replace it which means you at least have to remove the fan if not the whole radiator to get an impact wrench in. damnit makes for a pretty ****ty day and wast of time finding the damn thing

 

I've done one on 2.3, didn't have to take the fan off. Patience.

 

Lol

This should have bee in the "morning rant" thread lol

Yeah some things you will find and say "why is it like that, that's stupid"

 

Some people should never have become engineers.

 

Not sure I understand what you mean. Is the OP an engineer? Or are you commenting on how the engine was put together?

 

He means the people who designed the truck and put things in weird spots.


Case in point: 8 spark plugs on a 4 cylinder

 

you know i used to say that as well. and sometimes its true, but after building a truck from the ground up. its a lot harder than you think...

 

sounds like the op should have never switched from velcro laces

 

This^ Meaning that while some people may be damn smart, they don't think logically and therefore should not have been engineers designing this like engines and such.

 

I dont see anything wrong with 8 spark plugs on a 4cyl. It worked didnt it? They have been doing it for 10+ years.

I think mostly new engineers dont spend enough time working on the things they design to know how to fully make things easy for us to work on.

 

All Engineers have the mindset that all Techs (mechanics) are F***in their wife so they design things to screw them over

 

Yea I'm sure that's how it works

 

I think it goes exactly as Beard said. My girlfriend is studying mechanical engineering, having never worked on stuff...I make her work on things, or at least look at them and think about why it's a bad idea. Although a lot of her engineering friends just make an argument there is no other way to do it. I do believe they have a certain "**** on it it's this way" kind of mentality

 

Coming from the engineering point of view, sometimes there is a project deadline and a boss is on your a**. Going with a quick fix that works rather than redesigning something sometimes just has to be done. And engineers tend to listen to techs suggestion, otherwise they have to listen to a lot of complaints. Sometimes things just don't balance out well, but that's business right? Also, I work in the plastic industry, not automotive so there could be differences.

 

yeah i can't even get my fingers on the second screw i can barely contort my finers to feel what kind of head the screw is on the sensor, and when they desinges my twin plug year the only thing that could of been better would be if they could of put the second coil pack behind th first one like the newer 2.3's and yes it was deffinantly my morning rant threa lol, i'm goig to try and i dont' thing i have engough room to fit an impact wrench, i really hope they didn't put the blue locktight on the screws for this sensor like they did on my tps

 

You like all mechanics, hate engineers. They hate us without abandon.

 

I understand sometimes corners have to be cut for cost and time. Just like anything else. It is what it is.

 

Subject dear to my heart and I'm still pist off after 45 years:

In my youth I was an engineer and had to request that equipment be designed. This was done by "designers" who were definitely NOT engineers. Occasionally I wanted the design changed and got total resistance. Next the designers' supervisor would back him up. The next step would have been a battle involving department heads. Tempers got extremely heated. Time flys. Deadlines approach.

Common engineering sense thereby gets subverted by blind uneducated inexperienced stupidity. And who gets blamed?

 

The engineer who didn't stomp a mudhole in someones ars for being dumb!

 

I hope when I graduate next year (Mechanical Engineering) I won't be "that engineer" wherever I work

 

Oh yeah designs screw it up even more.

Engineer will want something functional but the designers can't make it work because it interferes with size or something cosmetic.

 

yeah i hate how cosmetically appealing they make cars now, i mean really they have to cover up the engine so you can see the mechanics underneath, WHAT THE ****!!!!!!

 

Always been told if you can't see the spark plugs don't buy the car.

 

haha agereed makes it more of pain in the ***, old truck is were its at