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i want a lift really bad on my 4x4 03 ranger. but im dfinitly not willining to pay over 800 for a lift kit and the sound of a body lift makes me cringe. do you think they will ever come out with a cheeper suspension lift for my year ranger. id there a reason its so expensive???
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There will never be a cheap lift for 98 and up 4wd Ranger. IFS and torsion bars. Those are the reasons why.
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I bought my 4" superlift for $450.....
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I used to not like Bodylifts.. until you sit back and realize jsut how many benefits it gives you:

Tire Clearance
Engine Clearance for maintenance
*Header "reachability" is enhanced
*Spark Plugs are MUCH easier to change
*You can actually get under your rig and have ROOM between things to work
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Another reason there will never be a cheap ranger lift is there is no market for it. Even if Ford continues making Ranger for a couple years, lift companies arent gonna invest any more into the Ranger.
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What I don't like about body kits for our trucks is that you have to make a shifter extension for the manual.
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What I don't like about body kits for our trucks is that you have to make a shifter extension for the manual.
Not if you get a HURST...not if you get a HURST...





I made a small extention when i was till 1" BL'd that put the ball 1" up, 1 1/8" back, and 1/4" over toward the driver........ITS AWESOME and perfect.
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I used to not like Bodylifts.. until you sit back and realize jsut how many benefits it gives you:

Tire Clearance
Engine Clearance for maintenance
*Header "reachability" is enhanced
*Spark Plugs are MUCH easier to change
*You can actually get under your rig and have ROOM between things to work
Add a superlift and you have access to much more too!
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Not if you get a HURST...not if you get a HURST...





I made a small extention when i was till 1" BL'd that put the ball 1" up, 1 1/8" back, and 1/4" over toward the driver........ITS AWESOME and perfect.
Didn't know about the Hurst. Also I hate messing with tow hitch brackets and crap.
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unless you have a level II twin stick there is a shifter extension whats the problem?
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There will never be a cheap lift for 98 and up 4wd Ranger. IFS and torsion bars. Those are the reasons why.
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Another reason there will never be a cheap ranger lift is there is no market for it. Even if Ford continues making Ranger for a couple years, lift companies arent gonna invest any more into the Ranger.
Those pretty much sum it up. The Ranger is a dead truck (eventually). That and lifted IFS sucks. Plus we just aren't a majority of the truck population.

Why do you hate body lifts so? I don't really see any negatives to them except maybe a higher COG but the majority of your weight doesn't move (Drivetrain and Chassis).
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Another reason there will never be a cheap ranger lift is there is no market for it. Even if Ford continues making Ranger for a couple years, lift companies arent gonna invest any more into the Ranger.
I don't know about that. There are plenty of vehicles, less popular than the Ranger, that aren't made anymore and you can find lifts everywhere. Take my Bronco for example. I am willing to bet there are way more Rangers out there then Broncos, yet they seem to think Broncos are popular enough to keep making suspension lifts for them. And they are cheap, even with the TTB IFS. Rangers will be around for a long time, even if Ford phases them out in the next few years. The market for parts for them and such will stay strong

Hard to say if prices will ever drop on modifications like that. Prices are hard to predict. Just depends on demand and the materials needed to make the mod happen.
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unless you have a level II twin stick there is a shifter extension whats the problem?
I want twin sticks.
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I don't know about that. There are plenty of vehicles, less popular than the Ranger, that aren't made anymore and you can find lifts everywhere. Take my Bronco for example. I am willing to bet there are way more Rangers out there then Broncos, yet they seem to think Broncos are popular enough to keep making suspension lifts for them. And they are cheap, even with the TTB IFS. Rangers will be around for a long time, even if Ford phases them out in the next few years. The market for parts for them and such will stay strong

Hard to say if prices will ever drop on modifications like that. Prices are hard to predict. Just depends on demand and the materials needed to make the mod happen.
Still stand by this.....fullsizes get lifts all the time. More avaliable. More lift them, bigger market for them. So it makes sence. PLUS, correct me if i'm wrong, but your bronco also share suspension with the F150, correct? Something the ranger does not share to anything else(except possibility of explorers, but really...how many lifted explorers do you see?)

Rangers on the other hand, while it's the top selling compact for a long long time now, there's more of them on the road than tacos...but more tacos get lifted and have more of an aftermarket more of a demand than our trucks. Just because there's an *** load of rangers on the road, doesn't necessarily mean theres a demand for aftermarket accesory parts.

Look at your suspension vs ours...you're lucky. Springs and a couple drop brackets. Us, multiple multiple drop brackets...then there's the torsion bars. those damn torsion bars.

Something to be said about lift kits....your not just paying for parts and instructions, your paying all that extra for what the company put into developing the lift kit. Getting it right. Keeping geometry in spec and such. Might look like $200 worth of steel welded together, but it's more than just that. They gotta recoupe costs somehow right? it's a business correct?



I might just be talking filth now....tired yo. lol.
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Still stand by this.....fullsizes get lifts all the time. More avaliable. More lift them, bigger market for them. So it makes sence. PLUS, correct me if i'm wrong, but your bronco also share suspension with the F150, correct? Something the ranger does not share to anything else(except possibility of explorers, but really...how many lifted explorers do you see?)

Rangers on the other hand, while it's the top selling compact for a long long time now, there's more of them on the road than tacos...but more tacos get lifted and have more of an aftermarket more of a demand than our trucks. Just because there's an *** load of rangers on the road, doesn't necessarily mean theres a demand for aftermarket accesory parts.

Look at your suspension vs ours...you're lucky. Springs and a couple drop brackets. Us, multiple multiple drop brackets...then there's the torsion bars. those damn torsion bars.

Something to be said about lift kits....your not just paying for parts and instructions, your paying all that extra for what the company put into developing the lift kit. Getting it right. Keeping geometry in spec and such. Might look like $200 worth of steel welded together, but it's more than just that. They gotta recoupe costs somehow right? it's a business correct?



I might just be talking filth now....tired yo. lol.
Yeah, you're definitely right about all that. Ford made the same TTB for their F150's up threw 97 I believe (even though the last Bronco was made in 96). You do see alot more lifted fullsize trucks then midsize.

But mostly what I mean is there is a market out there for suspension lifts for these Rangers...its just too bad they are so expensive. I am sure there are plenty of Ranger owners who want to lift their truck, and would do so if the price was more reasonable. There comes a point in Business when you have to realize what is the better option...spend a lot of time fabricating a product and expect to get your money out of it by marking the price way up, and have less people buy...or understand that it takes time to fabricate things and make the price reasonable enough so a certain percentage of the Ranger population can afford it. It is kinda a bummer that these Lift companies don't have the option of killing two birds with one stone with the Ranger (lifting multiple types of trucks with the same design...like the Bronco and F150.) But oh well. This is all out of our hands haha...unless someone on here can fabricate up a nice suspension lift and sell it for a reasonable price.

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^^^ all that + have you ever looked at the price of metal lately? A piece of 4" x 1/4" X12" goes for $10. And thats hot rolled. I would hope that Superlift's brackets are cold rolled. + A good Metal CNC machine will run you somewhere around $1-2 mil. Actually the ranger suspension lift is rather cheap comparing to other IFS suspension lifts. Most other full size IFS lifts run around $2 grand, but then again there is more material in it.


I am gonna argue that there is little demand for aftermarket lift for rangers. I'd bet that 95% of ranger owners in this world buy the ranger cuz it is cheap(The most economical truck rated by some random magazine) and gets "good" mpg's. They buy it to have the truck look and usability but want the mpg.

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don't we all....

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800$.. Hmm.. I'm wondering if someone could barter/trade to do a SAS for 800$. I believe its possible! Someone started with a paperclip and bartered/traded.. few years later, they have a condo on the California coast or something like that.
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I want twin sticks.
yes and i want a red headed **** but we all cant get what we want now can we?
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I bought my 4" superlift for $450.....
Where did you find that deal?

Figure i'll do a spindle and aal/shackle lift...possibly make it a double-lift if i get curious enough when the time comes

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i bought mine brand new for 1350....didnt think it was that bad. hell its cheaper than the one for my f150. if i could do it over again i would go straight for the solid axle swap. could do a d30 for the same amount of money that i have put into this truck already...
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yes and i want a red headed **** but we all cant get what we want now can we?
I had a red headed **** before so maybe the twin sticks are just taking some time.
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Hmm...redheaded *****...i happen to know a few. Short shorts, wifebeater, and a garden hose. goood times.


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Where did you find that deal?
Used from a friend/member FTW! lol.
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800$.. Hmm.. I'm wondering if someone could barter/trade to do a SAS for 800$. I believe its possible! Someone started with a paperclip and bartered/traded.. few years later, they have a condo on the California coast or something like that.
One red paperclip

http://oneredpaperclip.blogspot.com/

14 trades later and a house came along.
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Why do you hate body lifts so? I don't really see any negatives to them except maybe a higher COG but the majority of your weight doesn't move (Drivetrain and Chassis).
Actually, a BL doesnt raise the CG as much as a SL. Reason being is the frame, engine, drivetrain (most of the wieght of the truck) remains the same height with only the bed and cab being raised.
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ive seen it raises .5", ive seen it raises it 6"(how? wtf?!)....honestly...who cares. i was a HUGE bodylift hater since i came from the world of cheap suspension lifts. aka solid axle vehicles. cherokee, k10, k5, k2500, D100, D1200 and the like.
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