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3000k HID

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I have a ford ranger 05 edge. I live in california and just ordered some 3000k Hids for my headlights. I like the yellow look and ive seen acouple of trucks around my area with the same lights. Ill also change out my fog lights to yellow so all my lights will be yellowish. Ill post pictures when i get them installed within the nxt day or so.
Anyone ever done this? think its a good idea or what?
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3000k for headlights? I would have done 4300k+ personally.
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Yeah well ive been starting to doubt my purchase and i was thinking of going around the 8000k range for the blue. I purchased them off of xenoneyes.com and this is one of the pictures they show,
Doesnt look to bad..
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I'm sorry but I hat seeing cars with yellow headlights. I think it looks stupid. If I get HIDs for my truck I would go with 6000K. Good luck with cops.
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In california its illegal to have above 8000k, ive read the laws says nothing about 3000k being illegal yeah it make look strange seeing a car on the road with just yellow but i think it looks sick.
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In california its illegal to have above 8000k, ive read the laws says nothing about 3000k being illegal yeah it make look strange seeing a car on the road with just yellow but i think it looks sick.
You turkey, all aftermarket HID kits are illegal, but who cares.
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Besides the look and person opinions i wanted to know how the visibility is i was looking through a HID install thread posted by Fx4wannabe01 and heres the picture of 3000k with just the fog lights on.
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Big difference compared to my silverstar's which i can barely see 10 Feet infront of me with brights on or off..
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You turkey, all aftermarket HID kits are illegal, but who cares.
Really?
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personally me, i run either 4300K or the 6000K's in my headlights, my future plan is to run 3000K in my factory fogs
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I believe CA state laws require you to have a "White" light to be produced from the headlights them selfs. Alternate driving lights can be yellow. So yeah good luck with the police. I have 3000k fogs with my 6000k headlights and get more then enough output then halogen. Having headlights and fogs being 3000k is too much and your looking to get a fix it ticket.
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If I had an 86 I'd run 3000K fogs, just like this.

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That way I could cruise with my flip up headlights down, and still have plenty of light. Some day maybe that will come true.
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I think 3K are for fogs. You want to get at least 4300 or better because you will just draw attention to yourself if you have those as your head lights. I have 6K in my Ranger and I love them, just need to adjust them so I can see farther in front of me.
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By reading this i feel like i can get away with it.


By RICK DAVIS
Special to The Press-Enterprise

Q: Dolly Santangelo's e-mail asks about the colors of headlights. The Riverside resident notices vehicles with blue headlights, a few with yellow-white and one with greenish-white headlights.

"The blue lights are very bright," Santangelo wrote. "You can adjust your rearview mirror inside the car to reduce the brightness, but still get blinded by the brightness reflecting from the side mirrors."

Her question: Are these colored headlights legal?

A: Headlights considered legal for vehicles are supposed to be stamped or inscribed "DOT" (U.S. Department of Transportation) or "SAE" (Society of Automotive Engineers), according to section 24011 of the California Vehicle Code.

But not all headlights sold as aftermarket products have such a designation, according to Lt. Ken Carpenter, Riverside city police traffic commander. "You see headlights out there that aren't legal in that respect. Some products are sold with a warning 'consult local regulations before installing.' "

California Highway Patrol Lt. Mike Soubirous said section 25950 of the California Vehicle Code states all emitted light visible from the front of a vehicle is to be white, white-to-yellow or yellow. "Sometimes a set of headlights do appear white-blue," he said. "You see it on some newer cars."

Commenting on that section, Carpenter said, "Reality is, the color of headlights is white because all vehicles manufactured in this country have white headlights. There must be a reason or manufacturers would sell vehicles with yellow headlights to make them stand out. The yellow color permitted for lights visible from the front of a vehicle we know to be for turn signals and fog lamps because there are specific subsections of 29950 addressing their colors. But this section does not address headlight color specifically."

Carpenter said section 24005 prevents "the sale, offer to sell, installation or replacement of equipment, including lighting equipment and signal devices, that is not in conformity with this code or regulations made thereunder."

"That's a more applicable reference because 24011 only relates to selling or offering for sale a vehicle with illegal lighting," Carpenter said.

As for white-blue headlights, at least one aftermarket company offers them. Also, ultra-bright LED (light-emitting diode) lights, which may appear to have a bluish tint, are used in some new vehicles. But green headlights? "That sounds like a violation and a citation," said Soubirous.

Confused about state or local traffic laws? Send your questions, along with an e-mail address and phone number, to [email protected] or contact Rick Davis at 951-375-3720. Please note due to high volume of questions received, only those published in the column can be answered.
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Besides the look and person opinions i wanted to know how the visibility is i was looking through a HID install thread posted by Fx4wannabe01 and heres the picture of 3000k with just the fog lights on.

Big difference compared to my silverstar's which i can barely see 10 Feet infront of me with brights on or off..
his 3000K HIDs are in his fog light housings. the light output will be very different in stock headlight housings.
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his 3000K HIDs are in his fog light housings. the light output will be very different in stock headlight housings.
Yeah he has 6000k for headlights and 3000k for fogs, i didnt know that the output would be different if it was in fog or headlight. What would the output look like if it was in the headlight instead of the fog housing
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For HIDs to be legal, your vehicle has to have them come OEM which require projector housings...of course people still run them, I ran them for a little, I may go back to them sometime.
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I Suppose your right. If i get pulled over than i do. I dont think ill have that much of an issue
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Besides the look and person opinions i wanted to know how the visibility is i was looking through a HID install thread posted by Fx4wannabe01 and heres the picture of 3000k with just the fog lights on.

Big difference compared to my silverstar's which i can barely see 10 Feet infront of me with brights on or off..
That looks awesome.

I have 3000k non-HID fogs and they produce a nice yellow light like that,but not as far out as those. Damn I need HIDs!
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this is the look i am going for but of course on a ranger :)

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For HIDs to be legal, your vehicle has to have them come OEM which require projector housings...of course people still run them, I ran them for a little, I may go back to them sometime.
No - you are wrong too. Not all OEM vehicles with HID come with projectors.
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hey...thats one sweeeet pic of the 3000k's with just the fogs on...



lol.


ok...my buddy austin bought a set of HID's that i ordered wrong...they were 9004 3000k's...and well...as cool as it looks.....it's really weird to be behind the wheel of it at night. IMO...crazy colors like yellow or pink in the headlights are begging for po-po attention.
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No - you are wrong too. Not all OEM vehicles with HID come with projectors.
x2! Excalades and Mustangs come to mind...
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If the vehicle came stock with HID's, then the design meets or exceeds the requirements set fourth by the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) section 108, which regulates manufacturers, dealers, and repairs. It doesn't require what we call "projectors". They meet the requirements however they want as long as it works.

Once you own the vehicle, you are bound by state law, not the federal code. Some state have adopted the federal code as their law but not many. I don't have time to read Cali's motor vehicle laws right now but it will clearly say what is legal and what isn't.
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In my Evo it came with stock 4300K HID D2S projectors, and I have reflector fogs. I replaced both with 6000K so I have the same consistent color. Since Evo's have such a big intercoolers Mitsu put the fog lights inside of the headlights, so you can really see a difference between the projectors and reflectors. 6000K in a reflector looks much less blue, compared to a projector.

My next step is to hardwire my highbeam switch to a relay so I can actuate the highbeams without killing my fogs. The highbeam with foglights mod is much much trickier than on a ranger. This way I will have 3 sets of forward facing HID in my car when I install a 9005 kit for my high beams. I was thinking about doing yellow there.
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