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rngprerunner 12-16-2004 01:55 AM

AC Stuck on "Defrost"... help...
 
Like the title says, my AC is stuck on defrost. I get full power and full cool/heat range so I figure it has to be the blend actuator... any other ideas? Thanks.

V8 Level II 12-16-2004 02:05 AM

If your AC loses its vacuum source altogether, the vacuum operated doors default to the defrost position. Take a look at your vacuum lines and that spherical vacuum reservoir on the passenger side up behind the radiator.

FoMoCoFiddy 12-16-2004 02:07 AM

Mine does the same thing.

It works and all, but you cant change it, its default on defrost..

Check the little black ball under the alternator, and check to see if the hoses are loose.

You lost the vacuum..

And i read Rwenzings posts just now, i was just repling to what you said, but, yea, ill post it anyway...lol

rngprerunner 12-16-2004 02:10 AM

hmm... I'll go knock the mud off of it and check the lines.... thanks

n3elz 12-16-2004 02:59 AM

I agree with all above -- for a change, lol! ;)

V8 Level II 12-16-2004 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by n3elz
I agree with all above -- for a change, lol! ;)

That's no fun! :D

n3elz 12-16-2004 03:04 AM

Okay, okay, fine -- Bob is wrong. Happy? (Now you've gone and made me lie...) But I don't know what else to add, so I guess it can't be fixed! :)

rngprerunner 12-16-2004 03:29 AM

Ok, question. The lines from that ball thing are fine. Is it connected to the whole Vac system or is it its own stand alone system.

V8 Level II 12-16-2004 03:34 AM

One hose gets vacuum from the intake manifold and the other one goes to the AC. A leak anywhere will make it inoperative. Look under the dash to see if any vacuum lines are dangling.

ranger024x4 12-16-2004 03:38 AM

yes... even the smallest... A good test to use (an a/c test but im assuming it would work) is make a solution of soapy water. Turn on your car, then spray the lines with it...where ever the leak is, then it will start making bubles at that spot...


does anyone think that will or will not work???

n3elz 12-16-2004 03:42 AM

Won't work. A vacuum line sucks IN. No bubbles. The fluid will go in the line and that might not be the best idea either.

Usually you can hear it. Take out the radio, remove the center bezel, and listen inside the dash as you move the control. You should hear the vacuum motors cycling as you change settings for the type of heat/AC.

You may hear a hissing leak.

Any power brake problems? If not, it is almost definitely a vacuum problem from the black ball back to the heater controls through the firewall.

V8 Level II 12-16-2004 03:42 AM

That's usually a test for a pressure leak. In the case of vacuum it would draw the soapy water into the engine and might not be too obvious where it's leaking anyway.

n3elz 12-16-2004 03:45 AM

HAH! Beat you that time, Wenzinger! ;)

rngprerunner 12-16-2004 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by n3elz
Won't work. A vacuum line sucks IN. No bubbles. The fluid will go in the line and that might not be the best idea either.

Usually you can hear it. Take out the radio, remove the center bezel, and listen inside the dash as you move the control. You should hear the vacuum motors cycling as you change settings for the type of heat/AC.

You may hear a hissing leak.

Any power brake problems? If not, it is almost definitely a vacuum problem from the black ball back to the heater controls through the firewall.

I had it all appart earlyer.. I didnt notice any sounds at all... I'm gonna grab a flashlight and go do a little more investigating... something may have come off while it was in the shop this week...

n3elz 12-16-2004 03:50 AM

Or gotten pinched. Some of that tubing is small and pretty HARD. If it gets crimped, it STAYS crimped. Easy enough for it to get squished somewhere.

rngprerunner 12-16-2004 04:03 AM

Well thanks everybody, I found it. But I bet its not what you guys were thinking. Check back in 15min's I'm gonna go snap a pic. Yes it was vacume related, but a real oddball...

ranger024x4 12-16-2004 04:06 AM

my bad... true ture... not thinkin

rngprerunner 12-16-2004 04:24 AM

Well here is the problem. The pictures are kinda crap but it helps. It was a distribution block behind the passanger side head light. It was easyer to find since I dont have a bumper on it. There was a little two prong plug that I found dangleing after following the the vacume line from the heater switch. Plug it in and it works.

Thanks to all of you, this is what makes this site great. Thanks!

V8 Level II 12-16-2004 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by n3elz
HAH! Beat you that time, Wenzinger! ;)

:mad: Mutt was whinin' - had to let him out ....

FoMoCoFiddy 12-16-2004 05:33 AM

I might have to go look at mine. In the morning. lol too cold..

n3elz 12-16-2004 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by rwenzing
:mad: Mutt was whinin' - had to let him out ....

Now YOU'RE whining...they do say dogs and their masters tend to be alike! :p

I was lucky this time I know. Your youth will win out in a battle of reflexes! I'll have to place my hope in your dog... ;)

V8 Level II 12-16-2004 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by n3elz
Now YOU'RE whining...they do say dogs and their masters tend to be alike! :p

I was lucky this time I know. Your youth will win out in a battle of reflexes! I'll have to place my hope in your dog... ;)

What youth? I'm older than you are.

FoMoCoFiddy 12-16-2004 05:39 AM

Get a room!!!! Chat room ;)

n3elz 12-16-2004 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by rwenzing
What youth? I'm older than you are.

No, go on! Are you? I thought you were just "weathered"...

Okay, then, (assumes gunslinger stance) -- DRAW!!! lol!

V8 Level II 12-16-2004 05:45 AM

I'll be 55 next week - old enough to get the senior coffee discount at McD's - Woohoo!


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