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Old 12-16-2007
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I'm not looking to start up the ol' abs debate again, just wondering if anyone else finds the abs on rangers (mine's an 07 maybe it's different?) sucks.

It's almost as though as soon as one wheel loses traction, the abs removes brake power to all 4 wheels. Ridiculous.

So the 2nd part of this question: is there a non warranty voiding way to permanently or even temporarily disabling abs? I'm not interested in losing any other systems or having the idiot light illuminated either... tia guys
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I know in my 2001 I can pull the fuse and disable ABS but I think in the later models there are other systems on that circut. Maybe someone else knows for sure but you can check your fuses in the owners manual and see.
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Keyed voltage to the 2007 ABS is through fuse 20 and that fuse is shared by several other vehicle functions.
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What year did they change to where it's not on a dedicated fuse?
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What year did they change to where it's not on a dedicated fuse?
2004
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Thanks Bob.
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you could find the wire (if possible?) and put a switch on it, thats what i want to do
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I just took all of my abs stuff completely out...
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Ya, at times it seems my 87 Toyota 4x4 stops quicker than the 07 Ranger with ABS. but the ABS saved me from owning a Neon this morning when said Neon decided to lock up brakes in snowy intersection at a yellow light.

I found out ABS works in reverse also. I like swinging the nose around in a snowy parking lot to change dirrection but now I can't.
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I just took all of my abs stuff completely out...
he doesnt really want to void his warranty
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he doesnt really want to void his warranty

Sorry, missed that part.
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Old 12-20-2007
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From what I have read abs will not work while in 4wd . part time 4wd anyway


http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_parttime.html

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Shortly after I got my 2003 last summer I was on a wet road and tried the ABS. I hit the brakes real hard and they did the lock/release dance they are supposed to do. So mine are working ok.
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From what I have read abs will not work while in 4wd . part time 4wd anyway


http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_parttime.html

I beg to differ i was in 4wd one night and it was snowing i hit the breaks and well i just kept going, straight through a 4 way stop Lol..
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ABS does not make you stop better. ABS lets you maneuver and stop at the same time.
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maaan the abs almost caused me to slide off the mountain when i went to frazier park a few weeknds ago. but there was snow.


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maaan the abs almost caused me to slide off the mountain when i went to frazier park a few weeknds ago. but there was snow.


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There has been plenty of times that I have been saved, offroading of course, by having the abs disabled. It designed for a dry street not mud or anything.
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ABS does not make you stop better. ABS lets you maneuver and stop at the same time.
Correct. The purpose of ABS is to keep the wheels in traction so the driver can (hopefully) maintain control and steering of the vehicle, while at the same time allowing for braking. ABS is not intended to make a vehicle stop faster, although there are some conditions where it might actually do that.

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From what I have read abs will not work while in 4wd . part time 4wd anyway

http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_parttime.html
My 4WABS kicks on all the time when I'm doing moderate or heavy braking on icy surfaces while in 4WD. It could be that the article is referring to RABS.

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There has been plenty of times that I have been saved, offroading of course, by having the abs disabled. It designed for a dry street not mud or anything.
ABS is designed for those kind of surfaces/conditions where the tires can break traction while braking within a fraction of a second (hence wheel lockup). It's essentially an "anti-skid" mechanism.

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Old 12-23-2007
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Some manufacturers saved the money and did not offer ABS at all on part time 4WD. On some vehicles a warning will flash that ABS is not working properly when in part time 4WD (Mercedes G500) - others offer no warning and the familiar pulsating of the brake pedal indicates that ABS is working . Well, its not.

any abs tech expert out there chim in obtw this from the article
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Ok so I just got back from pickup up my woman. The hill by where she works is a decent steep grade, so I was going slow on the descent, controlling my speed with my brakes. (there's a little wet snow on the pavement) About 3/4 the way down my pedal starts pulsing and the truck actually gains speed though I've mashed to pedal fully into the floor. I ended up stopping about 5 feet short of a new Maxima's rear bumper by steering into the curb, which is not an acceptable way to stop IMO.

I had all kinds of traction before the abs took all my brakes away. I'm so not impressed with this system.

There must be someone out there with some idea of how to disable this crap in a way that is reversible... somebody, please!
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i spent a lot of time and money to get my ABS working properly after i did the 2wd to 4wd swap.

maybe you ought to change your driving style?
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in someone's cardomain there is a how-to to install a disable ABS switch.. that could be an option? dont knot if anyone said this already didnt reay the whole thread
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seems that when my truck is in 4x4 the ABS stops working
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What the ABS brakes do is when the sensor picks up that the wheel is turning slower than the other wheels it cuts the pressure to that brake and then reapplys them. If you have two wheel ABS those two wheel will pulse the brakes on and off as you stop if you are pressing hard on the brake pedal. If you have 4 whl ABS then all four will pulse as they loose and gain traction. If you are on a slippery surface the ABS will help you steer the vehicle while braking but they will not stop faster. If you have no traction at all the ABS will not help steering or braking.

Having ABS does not enable you to tailgate or drive faster on dry or slippery surfaces, it is so you can maintain some steering control while you are sliding into the *** end of the car in front of you because you are to close or driving to fast.
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I put a switch inline with my front wheel sensor a few months ago. This is on a 98 Explorer Sport, but it might help with a few Rangers. I followed the line from the hub to where it plugs in right behind the front bumper. I pulled one of the wires out of the loom and cut it. I used some butt connectors on both ends of the now cut wire, attached a good length of wire and ran it to the cab. I then hooked up some spade terminals and hooked up to a toggle switch that I have mounted in my console. I can flip the switch and disable my ABS on the fly, then flip it back, restart my truck and have the ABS back again. For the most part I keep it off. I turn it back on when its snowing or I feel like I might want it. Theres a thread going on over at explorerforum that has a few pictures that I had posted. It took me about 30 minutes to do everything, but could probably do it again in about 10-15 if I had everything and a place picked out for the switch.

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