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clutch bypass?

I want my truck to be able to start without the clutch being pushed in. does anyone know how to bypass the clutch so that it will start without having to push the clutch in? i did a search on this topic and nothing informative turned up. just people saying that your truck will jump forward if u start it in gear, but no one said how to do it.

i have 6 wires at my clutch, the colors are red/blue, pink, green, brown/blue, grey/red, blue/yellow. the second color is the color of the stripe.

does anyone know what wires need to be jumpered together or ran through a relay to make this work?

i understand all the reprocussions of leaving it in gear and starting the truck and i am willing to deal with that as long as this works.
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its a safety feature for manual vehicles i think, and why would you want to bypass it.. you need it to shift lol. wrong section too
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i did a search on this topic and nothing informative turned up. just people saying that your truck will jump forward if u start it in gear, but no one said how to do it.
You will probably get the same answer in this thread.
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I know some yotas come with a button you can push to override the clutch to start the truck. I would think it would be as easy as putting a switch connecting two wires. But I have no clue on how its wired so what do I know.

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its a safety feature for manual vehicles i think, and why would you want to bypass it.. you need it to shift lol. wrong section too
What does bypassing the clutch to start the truck have to do with using the clutch to shift?
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The reason Toyota uses it is for offroading purposes. That's why you only get it with the TRD offroad package. Its not meant for laziness.
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its a safety feature for manual vehicles i think, and why would you want to bypass it.. you need it to shift lol. wrong section too
i dont need a clutch to shift gears if you are smooth with it then you can go through the gears all day without ever pushing in the clutch, only need to push it in whenever you come to a stop. im not saying that is the best thing for the drivetrain but it can be done.

so is general technical and electrical the right section cause i think that audio/video/subs/amps/alarms/sat radio are typlically the same in-cab installs so that is why i put it here
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yea general electrical wouldve been better
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I'm not sure how to do it, but you can look over the wiring diagram for the clutch and try to figure it logically. It may be that the clutch sensor has a switched power allowing the truck to start only when the clutch is engaged. If you could bypass that with a constant power, then the clutch sensor would think it is always engaged.

Really, its not a big deal but I can't really talk cuz my Ram doesn't have the sensor and occasionally I start it in neutral without the clutch engaged.
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They sell remote starts for manual transmission vehicles. The guy I talked to about it told me that they install a switch on the ebrake and something else and as long as the truck is in neutral with the ebrake on, the truck will start with no clutch. Cant tell ya which wires either, but find someone that installs remote starts and he could tell ya and possibly order the part needed to make that happen.
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The reason Toyota uses it is for offroading purposes. That's why you only get it with the TRD offroad package. Its not meant for laziness.
Didn't know they made TRDs in the 80's.
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just go get a remote starter for it. the store installs one that bypasses pushing in the clutch. unfortunatly you have to do a certain procedure to be able to start the truck this way.

another way could be find an older truck and swap parts.

is pushing in the pedel really that much of an inconvenince (sp)?
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Didn't know they made TRDs in the 80's.
They didn't but I didn't say a specific year.
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They didn't but I didn't say a specific year.
Ok? And Yotas have had bypass switches since the 80's.
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Ok? And Yotas have had bypass switches since the 80's.
As far as I know no they didn't start using those switches until about 95 with the TRD Offroad Package.
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As far as I know no they didn't start using those switches until about 95 with the TRD Offroad Package.
Alright, well now you know. They had them before that.
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Alright, well now you know. They had them before that.
See I didn't know if you were arguing with me or telling me.
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I don't know, my switch just randomly broke one day, so now I don't have to push in the clutch to start it. I usually do, but i makes it handy for reaching in the window to start it when you're working on it.

Why don't you slide the switch all the way up the shaft, and zip tie it there, that way it always thinks the clutch is in?
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Just a FYI.
Its rare, but it does happen.

Ive denied claims/accidents where people forgot their vehicle was in gear and they ended up hitting something. Tampering with safety devices put in vehicles to prevent things like this makes for an easy denial. :)

Like i said, just a FYI. Had a guy with autostart which bypassed the clutch, hit the autostart while it was in his pocket(lookin for change), his little ricer went straight through the front door of the convenience store.
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Like i said, just a FYI. Had a guy with autostart which bypassed the clutch, hit the autostart while it was in his pocket(lookin for change), his little ricer went straight through the front door of the convenience store.

ricers deserve stuff like that, haha

dude, if you do the bypass, don't be an idiot like the guy mentioned above
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Remember that if your clutch is pushed in your cruise control will not work.
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Light Blue/Yellow goes to the PCM so I would say that would be the wire to jump. I got this info from a wiring diagram but won't say if it will work for sure because I have never done it.
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Ask somebody who does car starters for standards
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ok you can just bypass the switch under your clutch pedal that tells the pcm that the clutch is pressed in i think its called the neutral safety switch. this will allow you to start the truck without pressing in the clutch but you will still have to press it in to shift gears. if you do this you will probably end up doing something stupid on accident sooner or later though.
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there is two wires going to it, if you do an inline splice with a switch (either a switch that only connects while your pushing it or a toggle) you can start it with one or the other
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ok you can just bypass the switch under your clutch pedal that tells the pcm that the clutch is pressed in i think its called the neutral safety switch. this will allow you to start the truck without pressing in the clutch but you will still have to press it in to shift gears. if you do this you will probably end up doing something stupid on accident sooner or later though.
How do you guys think people got by prior to neutral safety switches? My 69 Mach 1 doesn't have one and I've never had an accident. I was always taught to push in a clutch before you start it. Not just for safety but it just less mass to have rotating when you start the car. I don't see a problem with bypassing the switch. My old Camaro I had went through 3 clutch switches in the time I had it. Its awesome not having your car start cause of some as stupid as that.
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