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HID Relay Install Help

What does it mean by connect to the battery? I have 3 of these little washer like objects

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I was thinking maybe connect one to the positive & negative parts of my battery? Why do I have 3?

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Those washer type things are called ring terminals. Connect to battery means connect to power. Easiest place to connect to power is that plate with 2 studs infront of the fusebox, after the abs controller things. Let me find a pic.
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Those washer type things are called ring terminals. Connect to battery means connect to power. Easiest place to connect to power is that plate with 2 studs infront of the fusebox, after the abs controller things. Let me find a pic.
Thank you sir a picture would be awesome. Do I want to connect all 3 ring terminals there?

One of the cables has two fuses on it, and the end of it has one ring terminal. The other two ring terminals are bundled with the cables for the other ballasts. So there is one ring terminal per ballast, plus one ring terminal after the fuses.

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two are likely ground, one is likely power. 2 grounds, 1 for each headlamp. But.....I see you have a wiring diagram.....what does it say? Post of pic of it...usually those diagrams are fairly self explanitary.
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Heres a bigger shot:

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I think the ground makes sense, if you look at the bulbs in the top right it has "H G L" and I have 3 cables... High Beams, Ground, Low Beams???

If you could get me a picture of the power source that would be great. Where do you recommend for a ground?
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Most likely one is + and one is ground. A color picture might help.
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I went out and took some shots....i like to use existing grounds or existing bolts for my grounds.....the second photo shows where a majority of my grounding is at. I know I know....i despirately need to clean up my add-on's wiring. Have you found a place for your ballasts?? I've got pics on this site on a hid thread. Hope it helps.




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Most likely one is + and one is ground. A color picture might help.
Well, theres 3 of them.

Didn't realize it was taking pictures in B/W at first, heres the color one...

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Looking at it again I can see that the ring terminal connected to the fuses is red, and has "+" next to it. The other one is black and has a negative next to it.

Does that mean those two hook up directly to the battery, one positive one negative? And the last, unmarked one, is the ground?
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PERFECT! Yes...red generally means positive. Black generally means negative. If the extra relay is in the same cluster as the positive negative for the relay, then the extra one should be a ground. relays need a ground. so that's what i assume that extra one if for.
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I went out and took some shots....i like to use existing grounds or existing bolts for my grounds.....the second photo shows where a majority of my grounding is at. I know I know....i despirately need to clean up my add-on's wiring. Have you found a place for your ballasts?? I've got pics on this site on a hid thread. Hope it helps.
yeah I have everything mounted, and most the wiring done, finishing the wiring in-between reading/responding to this thread.

Thanks for taking the pictures, really appreciate it. My bolts were covered by a little box so I wouldn't have had a clue what you meant without those pictures.

Any idea on which of the 3 go there? And does it matter which bolt they connect too?
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Red with the fuse goes to the battery positive terminal.
Black goes to the battery negative terminal.
As for your third one, i have no idea without seeing it.
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I'd also like to add you might need to pull back the wire loom(that stuff thats covering the wires) to see the color of the wires. That could possibly answer that extra wire problem.
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I'd also like to add you might need to pull back the wire loom(that stuff thats covering the wires) to see the color of the wires. That could possibly answer that extra wire problem.
I can't really just pull it back, it's taped up. Would it be safe to assume its a ground? What's my safest test, leave it unattached to anything, or ground it somewhere? The extra one goes to my passenger side. What makes for a good ground? Just a random bolt/nut that connects to metal?
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Safest test is for the manual to tell you what it is. In absence of that, peel the tape and loom back.
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Well, the one mystery one looked identical to the one marked as a negative, so I grounded it.

Got everything all done, lights work, except it's backwards... default is high beams, when I switch to high beams it enables the low beams *sigh*
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from looking at the directions....it looks like you can just change it up to make it correct........top right theres that HLG or HGL. That's gotta be the problem area.
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from looking at the directions....it looks like you can just change it up to make it correct........top right theres that HLG or HGL. That's gotta be the problem area.
I'm not sure. The picture is kind of cut off, above the HLG is marked 9004, above the HGL is marked 9007.
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This might be kind of a hack job idea.......but you could just swap the high wire with the low wire at the plug....and that should cure this problem. But do go over your set up to make sure all in installed correctly.....espicially the hi/low part.
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This might be kind of a hack job idea.......but you could just swap the high wire with the low wire at the plug....and that should cure this problem. But do go over your set up to make sure all in installed correctly.....espicially the hi/low part.
Got it figured out. 05BLKEDGE has the same setup and was having the same problem so I'll link him to this...

The connector seen circled in this picture needs to be re-wired:

The 9004 bulb pictured on the left is wired for High Low Ground. Our 9007 bulb pictured on the right is wired for High Ground Low. For some reason my connector was setup for the 9004 bulb when I ordered it, so I wasn't aware the connector wiring was something that may need to be changed, or was easy to change. I simply swapped the Ground & Low wires going to the connector.

Now with that said....
Shane, thank you for your help.
Matt, thank you for your help.
Alon, thank you for your help (I called him =P).
05BLKEDGE, thank you for your help.


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Awesome, glad you got it working. I can't wait til I have money to blow on stuff like this again haha
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yahoo! i actually helped someone! lol......glad ya got it all figured out....not whre's the pics!???
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Glad I could help man, now I just need to fix mine.
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get out there and fix it charlie! I get my teloscopic at the post office today!
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I'm going to tommorrow, let me know how the teloscopic ones are, I might just have to order them, I dont really like how blue mine are now, I think I going to order 4300K bulbs next time.
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I got mine too. Hoping to get them installed this evening!
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