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Old 10-19-2006
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Hydrolocked....now what?

So yeah I'm sure most of you heard about my truck dead in a foot of water, lol. She's going in to get repaired tomorrow, for the nasty tap in the engine. I was meaning to do alot of these things to the truck seeing as I don't know the maintenance schedule of the previous owner. I'm trying to compile a list of "to-do's" if you will to get her back in shape. Everything listed needed to be done anyhow, lol. Glad I didn't get crazy with it when I first bought it. I'm sure I'd be much angrier. I did just change the oil a week before the incident so there's a $40 case of oil down the drain. Truck has 55k miles so scheduled maintenance stuff is on the list as well.

Things that def need to happen because of water entering the engine or from just plain sitting in the water.
-Oil Flush - Drain oil, add cheap stuff, run a bit, flush again, add fully synthetic again
-New Oil Filter - It was just changed as well, not 100% sure if it's neccessary though
-Change Tranny Fluid
-Change both differentials
-Change T-Case Fluid
-Check/Clean or Replace MAF
-Check compression - If not done at the shop, not sure of the needed repairs just yet.

Probably Unrelated/Unaffected by the water but needed anyhow...
-Flush Radiator
-Replace Calipers/Pads
-Change Plugs/Wires - The stock plugs looked horrible! The one looked like it was filed to a tip and that same one had a freakin 1/4" gap!
-New Fuel Filter
-New IAC - Was giving me problems prior and sure didn't help that day. I'm not so sure my clutch is gonna take many more take offs from 300 rpms =\

I'm sure I'm missing much more, that's why I'm looking for input. Things to check, replace, rebuild, whatever. It was due up for some scheduled maintenance but now it's def needed. Thanks in advance!

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ur brakes shouldnt have gotton harmed. just clean the mudd out of them and they be good as new.
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hey i did the samething to my truck but mine doesnt have compression on the driver side now. i posted a while back about my problem cause i got the truck to run but then it died heres the link to my post and i have done everything u mentioned that ur goin to do

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dude that sucks!
i hope everything is fine on it..
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this is why i never hit a puddle hard. 2wd or not, id rather get stuck, then fugg the engine.
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I think most of the issue came down to the cold air intake which had a piece of the stock air box that acted like a bath tub.. He hit the water and filled the tub.. I am glad we could get you started and out of the woods... Hope the repairs do not cost you to much.
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change that intake while you are at it......lol........i know you are building your snorkle.....

sounds like you got everything covered good.....you dont need new pads just like stated above, just clean out the mud..........
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alot of that stuff i hope you are planning on doing yourself.....if not it will cost you major at a repair shop.....

hopefully the pinging fix dont cost you too much!
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Yeah, the worst part about it was he said he was going to put the snorkel on earlier that week but ran out of time...
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not good,that was some wicked water
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Have you performed a compression test yet? A tap is likely a bent valve smacking the seat since water doesn't compress and has to go somewhere.

Hopefully anyway, and not a rod or worse main bearing beat up from the piston hitting something solid and about 100 fps.
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Doesn't sound like anything in the bottom end -- to thin a sound. Definitely sounds like something in the top end.
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damn dude u just arnt having any luck with rangers...........hope u get her fixed and it isnt to costly
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Damn Travis that sucks!
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You prolly want to clean the MAF sensor and Throttle body as well. Your "tap" may be carbon broken lose from water getting into the cylinders. Not saying thats what it is, but I lookin on the bright side for you!
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You prolly want to clean the MAF sensor and Throttle body as well. Your "tap" may be carbon broken lose from water getting into the cylinders. Not saying thats what it is, but I lookin on the bright side for you!
if that is the case, then try some sea foam into the break booster vacum tube first before taking it to the shop...
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Why would you hit a puddle that fast?

I learned my lesson on that before, creeping is where it's at.

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ur brakes shouldnt have gotton harmed. just clean the mudd out of them and they be good as new.
Oh I know. They are under the "I'm going to do them anyway" list. I stole the new rotors and pads (500 miles on em) off my old truck before it was towed =]

The driver side rotor is scored up pretty bad and the brakes needed a tune-up even before I left. I was a bit concerned about the drive out there and back but soon found out that they were the least of my worries

I've got everything for that damn snorkel sitting at my parent's house and the stuff has been there for over two weeks! UGH!

Whoever installed the cone filter bought an adaptor plate but then decided to use cardboard as a gasket. Duh! I'm sure that didn't help the situation any. Like Doc mentioned, the bottom part of the stock airbox was left in place. I thought it was left there for a reason, to help shield the cone filter. Not the case, it was a water filled basin the cone filter sat in and sucked up the lovely h2o.

We removed the intake plenum from the manifold and found water sitting in a pool in front of the butterfly valve! After soaking up that water, I throttled the valve and wiped the inside to find nothing but some major carbon build-up!

I'm thinking this engine could've used an overhaul reguardless. My ford tech friend is trying to talk me into getting it "built". Not exactly sure what he has in mind but said he could do the same thing he did to a mustang 4.0 for a price. I'm not so sure my fiancee would appreciate the price tag as much as I'd appreciate the power! I left out a few parts on why the truck was pinging and out of commision to her =\ Shhh! She's been having major problems with kidney stones the last two weeks and wasn't too happy to hear that my truck was, essentially, limping home. lol

I seafoam'd the truck a day before the oil was changed so about eight days before the incident. The ping has gotten slightly lighter after my drive home. No odd sounds from the bottom end, just a light tap coming from the middle of the driver's side top that goes with the rpm's.

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Why would you hit a puddle that fast?

I learned my lesson on that before, creeping is where it's at.

Brenton
Not always. Creeping is a tool to use -- but it's not the only one or the best for every situation. I've made it through things faster that 4x4's got bogged down in creeping. So that's a bit simplistic I think.

Also, that's NOT a "puddle" -- that's a small pond fed and drained by a stream.
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alot of that stuff i hope you are planning on doing yourself.....if not it will cost you major at a repair shop.....

hopefully the pinging fix dont cost you too much!
Oh trust me, I do any and all repairs limited to my tools and willingness to make the situation worse if I don't know what I'm doing =]

So I just found out that my friend who's a Ford tech doesn't work at the Ford dealership anymore but still works for a garage so he has access to the tools. I found this out after asking him to run the VIN to see if the original purchaser had bought the extended warranty. I was told that the extended warranty carries over even if the vehicle changes hands, ownership-wise.

Anybody have access to run my VIN to see if I'm eligible for warranty repair?

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I still feel bad over the fact that this occurred. I've read about this condition occurring, but it's the 1st I've experienced it. I guess the scary part for me is that my stock air-box is pretty much in the same location as your cone is. The fact that your cone was exposed and "resting" in the bottom of the air box certainly didn't help things. I did learn a bunch of good information that day, as a result of your bad experience. I know that's not helping the situation, but it's true. I really learned some good stuff.

Seeing this for myself got me thinkin'. Granted, you hit that "lake" pretty fast, but if someone were to attempt it and go slow, at what point should someone realize it's too deep a plot a course backwards? For instance, if I'm slowly going thru a body of water like that, at what point "should" I know it's too deep............. OR is it generally too late by then? One last question concerning the changing of the tranny and the diff fluids............ how much water does one have to go into for this to be changed?

Another way of asking this question I guess is.......... you guys were there with me that day. I was the wimp of the bunch, but I should I be concerned that I got water into the tranny or diffs?
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It carries over if the original owner didn't ask for a balance refund. You can get a pro-rata refund based on how far you are into the warranty extension -- but a lot of folks don't know that. If the warranty is still in effect, then I think you're right you can try to take advantage of it.
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If the water level is above the breathers change the fluid, if the differentials are submerged for an extended length of time change the fluids.

I'm glad you learned from my misfortunes! I mean that in a good way, I too have gathered much information this way. It sucks when it happens to you but if it makes someone else wiser to the situation at least something positive came about.
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Thats a real bummer.
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That sucks man....Hopefully you get her up and running again...

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