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LEDs all around

As of today i have LEDs in my Brake lights, Reverse lights, and my side markers (clear Corners)...I am getting some for my blinkers off ebay from this guy but im having a little problem..my blinker blinks like CRAZY...the only way to fix that is to get a resistor...like this...



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

there 4.99 then like 4 for shipping...and im gunna need 4 of them...

so i was wondering if i could go to like Radio Shack and get some resistors and wire em up or somethin so i dont have to spend another 30 bucks in fixing my blinkers...

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Just buy a heavy duty flasher module.
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Yay, lets make all our marker lights dimmer!
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well I dont want that i want brighter....so get that guys on ebay or can i rig my own up at Radio Shack
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wowak was meaning, that LEDs are a LOT less brighter than regular light bulbs....

not too safe....

but i'm sure Radio Shak has what you need, remember, "you have questions, we have answers"
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wowak was meaning, that LEDs are a LOT less brighter than regular light bulbs....

not too safe....

but i'm sure Radio Shak has what you need, remember, "you have questions, we have answers"

lol yeah i just hate goin there and asking a question bout stuff and them not knowing it..like CBs..i had the Stainless Steel ball mount and the co-ax doesnt screw straight up to it..so i was like how do u hook it up...he had no clue....then i got another set up...

but i think it can be done i just gotta figure it out and i thought somebody would know..

Bob hasnt posted but im sure he will...
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actually jam strait makes some LEDs that are much brighter than regular bulbs, in fact they have warnings that they should not be used in clear lenses. the biggest problem with LED bulbs is that they only project light straight forward, so if the light housing is designed to reflect light forward, they wont work as well. on the ranger and F150, the lens on the headlights throws the light, so light coming straight forward would still be ok. its the LEDs in the taillights that dont look right, becuase the lens does not spread the light, the chrome housing does, and it does not get any light to reflect, so all you will see is just a small round red circle
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yeah..u remember Justin from the meet...red edge...HIDS..LEDs

im got the ones he has in his clear corners and gettin the blinker ones..but wanted to see if i could get around 30 bucks in resistors
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actually jam strait makes some LEDs that are much brighter than regular bulbs, in fact they have warnings that they should not be used in clear lenses. the biggest problem with LED bulbs is that they only project light straight forward, so if the light housing is designed to reflect light forward, they wont work as well. on the ranger and F150, the lens on the headlights throws the light, so light coming straight forward would still be ok. its the LEDs in the taillights that dont look right, becuase the lens does not spread the light, the chrome housing does, and it does not get any light to reflect, so all you will see is just a small round red circle
IN the front turn signals the lense helps to disperse the light reflected by the concave reflector. While it will *HELP* disperse the direct (small cone) light from LEDs, it will not make up for their shortcomings. This problem is of course much worse for the taillights, where the lense will do nothing to diffuse the light. LEDs are ONLY brighter in their direct cone of dispersal. Incandescent bulbs are ESSENTIAL for safety because of their omni-directional light emmissions.

I'm not going to discuss it any further, but LEDs are NOT as bright, and are NOT as safe as incandescent bulbs. If you want to use them, thats your choice to accept the risks and responsibilities. But if you choose to believe that they are NOT inferior to incandescent bulbs as a safety feature, then you're just an idiot.
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I fixed my rapid flashing with an electronic flasher module. Bought it at Auto Zone.
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I have jam straits all around now with the resistors and it is working like normal now. I don't have any problems with the brightness. I can see the signs flashing with my lights on so it can definately be seen. Now I just need to get my sequential turn signals wired in lol
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I have jam straits all around now with the resistors and it is working like normal now. I don't have any problems with the brightness. I can see the signs flashing with my lights on so it can definately be seen. Now I just need to get my sequential turn signals wired in lol
Whered u buy ur resistors at and how much

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I fixed my rapid flashing with an electronic flasher module. Bought it at Auto Zone.
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is that under the Dash?
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IN the front turn signals the lense helps to disperse the light reflected by the concave reflector. While it will *HELP* disperse the direct (small cone) light from LEDs, it will not make up for their shortcomings. This problem is of course much worse for the taillights, where the lense will do nothing to diffuse the light. LEDs are ONLY brighter in their direct cone of dispersal. Incandescent bulbs are ESSENTIAL for safety because of their omni-directional light emmissions.

I'm not going to discuss it any further, but LEDs are NOT as bright, and are NOT as safe as incandescent bulbs. If you want to use them, thats your choice to accept the risks and responsibilities. But if you choose to believe that they are NOT inferior to incandescent bulbs as a safety feature, then you're just an idiot.
If incandescent bulbs were so essential for safety then BMW, Volvo, Infiniti, and all other car companies wouldn't use them for brake lights as well as any other indicator lights. Don't try to tell me that they design the tailights so the the lense is built specifically for the LED installed because they're not. My mom has a G35 6M and her taillights are not special; they're just clear which makes the light brigher overall.

My bulbs are brighter than incandescent bulbs and i'll back and argue that anyday because i've compared them side by side. Incandescent bulbs take longer to blink, heat up, and looks crappy when compared to LED's. LED's are better because they last longer, require less wattage from the vehicle in question, and are more exact as far as using them as signals...etc. I will agree thay are brigher when looked at directly but most people see you from the back or the front anyways...

Another thing is that there are cheap stuff and there are expensive stuff. You can choose to be cheap and get crappy lights that won't show jack or you can spend your money right and get the stuff that works.

My LED's are 20 direct firing with 1 main led in the middle and 5 directional firing for the sides so mine and Evans will fill all of our lenses up. He won't have a problem seeing his lights and he won't have a problem being seen.
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There ARE LEDs that are made to disperse light out of the sides instead of facing straight forward. They make the tip of the LED concave instead of rounded. I had some in my clear corners. There are also some LEDs made for tail lights....check the link below.

http://autolumination.com/3157_3156.htm

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Side facing LEDs


Inverted (concave) lens


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Just get the resisters to even it out.......
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I had stylin concepts order mine. They weren't listed online, so I called them and they got them for me.
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yeah thats wat im gunna do i was just hopin that there was a way that i could rig somethin up..oh well i guess another 30 bucks in resistors...darn
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like I said....get a heavy duty flasher unit that accepts variable loads
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how much is that gunna set me back

is the unit found under the dash??
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They're not that expensive. Maybe 10 bucks. The flasher module is under the dash on the driver's side.
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a load equilizer is what you need, they can be fount at stylinconcepts
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a load equilizer is what you need, they can be fount at stylinconcepts
A heavy duty flasher unit does the SAME THING!!! Plus...you don't have to wire $hit. Just plug the module in and go...
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How many load equilizers will I need to do my front turn & rear tail lights? and will it fix the blown fuses?
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dunno bout the fuses y cant u just replace those...


im gettin one for each light so a total of 4
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There is a BIG difference between the high end cars that come stock with LED's and these replacement bulbs. Those car's have their tailights designed to work properly with the panel of LED's in them. They have to meet all the federal FMVSS standards just like they would with an incandecent bulb and reflector housing. You can't compare a $5 3157 LED replacement bulb that is sold 'for off-road use only' since they meet no standards with a Caddilac tailight that has an entire panel of LED's in it that is designed to meet the standards and requirements.

With that said, a good majority of the LED replacement bulbs are inferior. The talight housing is designed to have a 360 degree bulb in it, utilizing it's internal reflector and lens fluting to disperse the light properly. If you just toss an LED in there, it is going to defeat all of that. There is no way it an have same dispersion as an incandecent bulb. The only way it is going to work adequately is if you get an LED replacement that has a lot of bright LED's going in all directions. One bundle of LED's pointing straight ahead is not going to cut it. I seriously doubt any of them actually meet FMVSS standards but neither do many other things in common use. As long as you can meet or exceed the incandecent bulb's effect in all directions, I think it is ok.
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