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Hey guys...I know that everyone has been teling me to get lockers... Or L.S. but to get LS you have to switch out the axle and stuff and thats just too much of a hastle lol.. So, im thinking lockers.. but they are so freaking expensive and i have no idea what to get and where...

So im figuring if i get a good 8000lbs or 9500lbs winch, i will be able to get myself out if i do get stuck... what do you guys think?
--not to mention it would look cool


Oh and anyone got any ideas on how i could mount it to the cattle gaurd? I know im going to have to fab. a housing, which is no prob.. just dont know where to put it....

Ideas would be great!!!

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hey man u gotta do sumthin...
lol i got stuck today and i was wishin i had a locker/limited slip/ winch!
any of em woulda worked.
i think im gonna invest in a LS tho.
cuz its a great investment even tho it is rather spendy.
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i would go with lockers. the winch can get in the way of your frontal clearance. example: going up a short but steep dirt bank. i have seen so many people have trouble with those after they get a winch
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i want to get lockers but i dont know where to get them and what to get.. any ideas?
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so yeah..so now i know i need 2 arb air lockers... but i dont know which ones...
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im clueless from that point on. i dont know much, i just know where to get them. truthfully, i dont even know what a locker does...or limited slip
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the guide is saying ive got a dana 35 front end?? it gives me a model number for my axle witht he stock gears.. but with the 4.56 gears, it changes axles.. im going to have the stock axel with the 4.56 gears.. so which air locker model do i need?
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soo... yeah i just looked at the price.... no cheaper than 800 for one... ewww lol.... from what i read i need two since they only work with one axle each... thats almost 2000 for both... plus install.. plus i have to buy the gears still and install on those lol... .
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i have no idea. lol
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so yeah..so now i know i need 2 arb air lockers... but i dont know which ones...
i know you cant get the arb for the front because i wanted one for my truck and posted a thread. and i would say get a winch, a cradle, and a front hitch and your good. when u get stuck put the cradle in + pin and your good to go.
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another advantage to haveing a winch and cradle is you can wire it with quick disconnects and have it either front or rear. and a locker wont do anything if u get hung up on the frame or axle.


plus a winch could pull a buddy out easier from a farther distance with out getting yourself stuck.
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i know you cant get the arb for the front because i wanted one for my truck and posted a thread. and i would say get a winch, a cradle, and a front hitch and your good. when u get stuck put the cradle in + pin and your good to go.
i have no idea what a cradle is and a front hitch? would that be the front tow hooks?? i feel like a dumb ***...lol
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i have no idea what a cradle is and a front hitch? would that be the front tow hicks?? i feel like a dumb ***...lol
no worries, i always feel like a dumbass when people start talkin about serious offroad stuff. lol
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haha.. well atleast i know im not alone lol

hey, i know i mentioned that i still had to get the 4.56 for the truck... well i found the whole kit.. tell me what you think...


http://www.4wheelparts.com/PDT291587.aspx

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i would just get an aussie locker for the front and a lock-right for the rear.

thats less then $800 for two lockers.
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a locker locks both of your wheels together so its impossible to get a one wheel peel. right now your truck is 2wd in tricky situations. for example, when offroading you will have only one traction wheel in the front and one in the rear. i would get a limited slip for the rear, which limits your wheel slipping, but is also very good for on-road because lockers are not very road friendly unless you need to know how to use them. lockers arent too expensive, but selective lockers are, such as the air locker you were looking at, but personally i would go with an e-locker. Your front axle is a d35, the website was correct. you can get full time locker for the front, but you will have to get used to the steering when engaged in 4 wheel drive.

if i were you i would get a limited slip for the rear (make sure you get clutchless so it doesnt wear out, meaning a gear driven limited slip) and for the front i would get a full time locker. the decision is yours, but i would work on not getting stuck before you work on things to get you unstuck, ie a winch

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i would just get an aussie locker for the front and a lock-right for the rear.

thats less then $800 for two lockers.
an aussie locker is an excellent locker for the front
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ok... so the Limited Slip in the rear... Do i have to replace the whole axle? and the front locker.. aussie? Is that ARB? I know im asking alot of questions, sorry...

working on not getting stuck instead of working on how to get out if i do... wow.. why cnat i think of stuff like that lol..

the arb air locker only ingages when i flip the switch.. So, it wouldnt do anything to the truck drivability on the road..
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a front hitch is a like a trailer hitch u would find on the back of the truck but is mounted on the front. a cradle is a bracket that a winch can be mounted to and that is designed to to be put into a a receiver hitch. thus making it removable and capable of being used from the front or rear.





http://www.4wheelparts.com/PPT6382T3390.aspx
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no you do not have to replace the whole axle for a limited slip.

yes you are right, an arb air locker would not affect your driving on the road, but you mentioned how you dont want to spend $800 on a selectable locker, so go with a full time locker like the aussie. aussie is not arb, aussie is a brand of locker. ideally you would want selectable front and rear, or selectable rear and full time front. but a limited slip in the rear and full time in the front shouldnt run you too much
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^ and you could take it off when your not using it. (the winch)


imo, i wouldn't get a limited slip unless you aren't going to wheel alot.
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ok... so the Limited Slip in the rear... Do i have to replace the whole axle? and the front locker.. aussie? Is that ARB? I know im asking alot of questions, sorry...

working on not getting stuck instead of working on how to get out if i do... wow.. why cnat i think of stuff like that lol..

the arb air locker only ingages when i flip the switch.. So, it wouldnt do anything to the truck drivability on the road..
no you wont have to replace the axle and aussie is the name of the locker. this is one that is close to it......

http://www.4wheelparts.com/PPT2221T5589.aspx
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i plan to run lock-rights in the front and rear of my truck.

but thats going to be with the d30(solid axle) and the 8.8

i have a lock-right in my 7.5 right now and it has decent on-road manners.
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yeah... i dont know.. im going to see how much funds i have saved up when i get home in may/june after i get the gears, etc... if i have the funds ill just go ahead and get the arbs for the front and rear.. i dont want to skimp out on my truck.. only the best for my baby lol.. its just whether or not i have the money at the time...


which model of the ARB Air locker do i need for the front/rear.. it was showing me a bunch of numbers that i had no idea what they ment....

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If i go with the quick lock lockers, how well do they work... and whats the diff. in performance from them and the air lockers.. (besides the selectability))
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