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Piaa Vs Silverstar Bulb comparison with 2 pics

i have had thes pics for a wile and i havent seen anyone on here show a diffrence in light comparison. i know people love there silverstars and hate Piaa so u can say what u want but the pics show you what is brighter.

truck on the left. 02 ranger 4x4 ex cab w/silverstars w.clear headlights and silverstars 9145 fog bulb.

Truck on right. 99 ranger 4x4 ex cab w/Piaa Xtream whites w/diamond cut HL and Piaa 9145 fog bulbs.

(also to run piaa make sure to use upgraded wire harness!!!)

Low beam:

High beam: where did my truck go??




also the piaas are a light whiter light when driving.
this is not to make anyone mad just to show a diffrent rought then silverstars if you want the best light

(also to run piaa make sure to use upgraded wire harness!!! should buy for any bulbs for better light power.)

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of course the PIAAs are brighter, theyre double the wattage of the silverstars...
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if there was a silverstar with the same watts as the piaas then it would be a better comparison, although the piaas do seem whiter.

where did you get the harnesses for the piaa?
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if there was a silverstar with the same watts as the piaas then it would be a better comparison, although the piaas do seem whiter.

where did you get the harnesses for the piaa?
Here is the link he sent me. Summit Racing Then search for APC harness
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I pretty much hate my silverstars
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of course the PIAAs are brighter, theyre double the wattage of the silverstars...
close to double not quite. but if you want the best light u get what you pay for. i went threw 2 pairs of silverstars within a year . friends on his 2nd. my piaas i payed 60$ + harness was 30 when i got it = 90$ and thats a little more then 2 pairs of silverstars.
i have had my piaas for about a year and a half and no problems they even made it threw my last rangers accident lol.

but this was just to show the people that love Bright Lights that there are better options then silverstars cause there hasent been a comparison of them yet.

silverstars 9007 = 1000/1350Lumens Max. 60/70 >>>4000K <<<<<

PIAA 9007 = Wattage 65/55w = 120/110w, >>>4000K <<<

Kelvin or the K means the temp its burned at.
Kelvin: Color temperature is a unit of measure for the color of light it is not necessarily related to the heat of the light source. A higher color temperature represents a color closer to actual sunlight.

as pics show the piaas are a lot whiter than the silverstars with the same Kelvin raiting.
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Not sure I buy the pics as evidence they are "whiter", the non-linearities of digital cameras and image compression being what they are. They're not necessarily "whiter".

In addition, you're running the bulbs in two different trucks -- without measuring the voltage at the lamps, you can't tell if it's voltage or design which makes the color difference you perceive. The 4000K is based on a fixed reference supply voltage -- change it and the color temperature changes.

They are for sure a lot brighter, but then again you need to update your harness/sockets if you want to do this. Lot's of Rangers going back over the 5 years I've owned one have ended up with crispy wiring and connectors from running these bulbs without upgrades.
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yes you do i made sure to add that in to the first post i made 2 time so i dont get blamed lol. YOU DO HAVE TO GET UPGRADED HARNESSES.

ill try to meet my friend one night and put a silverstar in my truck so i got 1 silver and one piaa did it before i changed them out. you can also look at the ground infront of the trucks and you can see what side looks brighter at the ground. i also have in my 05 chevy work van 3500 with no upgrade harness and my boss has in his 04 silverado with no upgrade must be better wires. never changed and never got dull overtime.

again this is just for people who want something brighter then the silverstars but dont want to buy HID's the instpection guy checked to make sure they wernt hid's cause they are ileagal and i fooled him.
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me 2 lol i dont got the $$ for them now. i wany my bama first lol
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yes you do i made sure to add that in to the first post i made 2 time so i dont get blamed lol. YOU DO HAVE TO GET UPGRADED HARNESSES.

ill try to meet my friend one night and put a silverstar in my truck so i got 1 silver and one piaa did it before i changed them out. you can also look at the ground infront of the trucks and you can see what side looks brighter at the ground. i also have in my 05 chevy work van 3500 with no upgrade harness and my boss has in his 04 silverado with no upgrade must be better wires. never changed and never got dull overtime.

again this is just for people who want something brighter then the silverstars but dont want to buy HID's the instpection guy checked to make sure they wernt hid's cause they are ileagal and i fooled him.
Absolutely with regard to the wires: Rangers have what I consider to be UNUSUALLY small wires for a power circuit. They designed them with virtually no "headroom" in terms of circuit rating. Definitely not a "conservative" design, lol.

And I'm not criticizing the bulbs -- they really are a nice bright bulb. Not sure how their life is and all, but lot's of people run them an love them. My only point really was about the color temperature and why bulb comparisons have to be done with that in mind. It's not a constant, it depends on voltage and just a few tenths can make a visible difference.
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i agree. ill have to try to get some shots up against a garage door with i piaa and i silver see what it looks like.

ya i burned both sockets lol i didnt have the $ for the harness righ away and i had to get NAPA replacements and temp them in. the ground burned out on both light sockets. i noticed them being really dim at night i was like O NO!!!! lol thats when i broke down and got the harness.

ya the chevys harness already had 14AWG wire for harness mine only looked like 18 AWG if that lol maby 16 very little.
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The PIAA's draw the exact same wattage as the silverstars 65/55 as it shows on the package, the 120/110 is what they claim there bulbs output to be equal to. I have had both and by far prefer the PIAA bulbs. If they burn out in the first year, PIAA will send you a new one for free. Actually I burned on out and emailed them a picture of my receipt and they mailed me two new ones for free. www.suvlights.com has a nice upgraded harness that is very easy to install.
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exactly and there soposto have a resister inside that is to prevent harness burning to but didnt work for me lol. they worked perfectyl in my 96 ranger with no harness for about 10 months then got my new truck.

atleast someone else that has them posted so it looks like i'm not the only one using them lol
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yeah but what about the new silver stars?
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With regard to PIAA's: they may pull the same electrical draw (but I'd like to measure that), but they burn much hotter.

By the way, there's virtually NO WAY they could pull the same wattage, be that much brighter, and have any life to them at all. That runs contrary to the limits of incandescent lamp design.

I think you'll find that their ratings are a little suspect.

Phrases like "twice as bright" are being thrown around -- well for that to happen at the same electrical drain, they would have to have TWICE the efficiency of other halogen bulbs -- that's just not very likely...in fact it borders on ridiculous.

I posted before about this: you can get brighter, whiter light by raising the filament temperature, or by pouring more power through a filament with more surface area. There's nothing else will make any difference.

So, they are either very thing filaments that get VERY hot (and therefore don't last), or they are higher wattage bulbs with thicker filaments.

There really aren't any other ways for you to increase the light.

Halogen gases were the big advance that allowed hotter filaments. The halogen gas forces a portion of ionized metal "vapor" from the filament to recombine on the filament so that the filament does not burn out so soon. When you see the blackening or silvering of the inside of an incandescent bulb after it ages, that's the metal that was ionized plating the inside of the glass.

Halogen bulbs minimize this and so you can run them hotter with the same life -- but ALL auto bulbs are halogen these days.

Many Rangers have burned harnesses (actually, the connectors mostly) with these bulbs so SOMETHING is up about them.

Where does it state outright that they only draw 55/65 watts?
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idk John i cant find online exactly how much watts they take like experiments but all sight say the same the Quarts halogen desogn mixed with the gas they use thay can create a higher wattage bulb with lower wattage. kinda like thoes energy saver bulbs that intake 15w but put out 75w kinda thing accept there florecent. i got these specs from a sight i found.

Features

Brighter Than Standard Halogen Bulbs
XTRA Technology Performs Like a 110/120W Bulb
Improved Visibility, Less Eye Strain
Bright, White Light Output
High Quality, Heat Resistant Glass Tube
Welded Focus Ring for Proper Beam Positioning
One Piece Filament Support
Glass Tube Secured By Metal Band
Industry Standard Mounting Base
Fully DOT and SAE Compliant
Specifications
Mounting Type: 9007 (also known as HB5)
Power Consumption: 55W Low Beam / 65W High Beam
Color Temperature: Approx. 4000K (Xtreme White Plus)
DOT / SAE Approved: Yes
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it says on the package and on the base of the bulb itself 65/55. The filiament appears the same size as the factory bulbs and both are quite a bit thinner that a pair of 80/100 clear bulbs that I have, luks I think is the brand of them. I ran them for approx. 6 months and burnt 3 of them, much brighter light, but the same color light output as standrad bulbs. The PIAA's as with all of the bulbs with the blue tint to them are not as bright, but the color of light that they produce is much better, especially while driving in the rain or snow, they don't reflect nearly as much. As for the factory harness or sockets burning up, they are know for that, even with stock bulbs, the harness is barley enough to support the draw of regular bulbs and is prone to having the ground part of the light socket burning/melting. Just adding an upgraded harness with the factory bulbs improves the light output.
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^^ my friends harness in his 02 buned his ground using silverstars so it really isnt anything shocking. getting a upraded harness will make stock bulbs brighter. with my piaas the light i have is a lot greater visable distance it seems. i drive my dads exploder wit stock GE bulbs and i get fustrated cause i cna see as far with them lol. i keep the high beams on when ever there are no cars around cause the light is yellow as pee and has a short distance of visibuility. i cant stand driving it at night.

i agree in snow and rain piaas do very well some bulbs make it so it dosent light up anyhting and these do wonders.
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im thinking about making my own harness now.
all i would need is two realys, wire, ends, and two light sockets.
but where would i get the improved light sockets at?
because i know my wires get warm..
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you can make your own i know TireIron made his own. its really easy if you know car DC wiring and relay wireing. i think he made his with 10AWG witch is kinda overkill lol but you can run 14 gauge stranded to the sockets. i got my replacement from napa when mine melted and the napa ones seemed to be a thicker wire on them then my stock wire.

i know i have seen upgraded sockets at Pep boys they do say upgraded headlight sockets! its with there silverstars i think and there turn signal bulbs i was them. i know it was at a couple stores i saw them at GRR.

hopefully someone comes on that can tell u. can try suvlights.com also.
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sweet ill stop by napa and advanced tomarrow to see what they have.
maybe ill make a how-to
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i never thought of making my own till i saw how easy it was to put in lol just remember to ask for like a upgraded one. check a pepboys if there are any around you
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the only pepboys i know of around here is in detriot.
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