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Old 08-20-2009
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hi i was just wondering about the piaa xtreme white head lights are they better then silver star ultras, if i just want to put the stock watt in i don't have to do any thing to my wire harness to run them or do i?
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never used em. but no you don't have to modify anything.
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cool thanks alot you must only have to modify with you put a hid kit in
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It depends. If they are a higher wattage then you may want to beef up the wiring as its fairly skimpy. If its just a colored bulb you should be ok.

Hid kits don't require re wiring, they only draw 35w except the startup draw. Most kits are "plug and play" meaning the wires for the hid ballasts plug directly into your existing terminals.
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cool thanks alot you must only have to modify with you put a hid kit in
If you intend to run the 65 lows and 100 watt highs, then consider a new harness.
Aftr Mkt harnesses are good and if rated for the wattage bulbs you are running then they should work OK but if you want to build a harness use some 10 ga wire for the main battery feed.
Use the existing OEM wiring to control the relays, all it takes is a little cut and paste and correctly rated components.

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yea all i am runing is 55/65 watt so i should be alright then its the same wattige just higer out put
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yea all i am runing is 55/65 watt so i should be alright then its the same wattige just higer out put
You should be OK but to get all of the light out of the new bulbs you will need a better wiring system.

The OEM stuff is just at the limits of carrying enough current to light the lights, once you have added an aftr mkt harness (or home make setup) the lights will work at the full potential and you will notice an increase in the brightness.
Even OEM Head Lights give a little more light when a better harness is added.

Not something you have to do but something to consider.

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I have never used them but everyone I know who runs them, likes them.
I want to try them but they are spendy! I am going to try Nokya 5000k bulbs just for ***** and giggles. I am using Silverstars now but I don't remember them lasting very long.
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Let me know how the Nokya's work out.
I am always looking for a bright bulb.

thanks and good luck on the new lights and don't forget later on to try the new harness, there are plenty out there on the web.
I have one of the HD (150 W) Harness from the web, don't remember the name of the suppler but if it works out OK I will post some info.

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I have the Nokya 2500k bulbs that I ran in the fog lights for a while, love them. The silverstars are great when it is dry, and even better in the snow. But when the roads are rain covered a lot of the light seems to reflect away instead of back at you.
I stopped using the yellow fogs for now since it is more dry lately and the yellow looks annoying to other people. They do not hurt your eyes more than standard bulbs, didn't reflect off of anything bad, they are just very yellow and look king of annoying, just because it's not a color you're not used to seeing. I still never got flashed with them so maybe it's just me I don't know. I will probably put them back in soon though as they look so good (from the drivers seat).

I kind of have a hard time believing a new wiring harness would make a huge difference in light but maybe it would. I guess there is a bit of loss in all the factory wiring. Maybe when I'm bored one day I'll make up some nice wiring harnesses with relays and compare them side to side.
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I like yellow fogs but my latest ones aren't.

Sometimes the harnesses make a difference some times not...

I have heard a lot of people say they do, I will have first hand info as soon as I install mine.
Making a new headlight harness is my usual way but the eStore had this harness rated for the 150W lights and it is actuated by the existing harness with a new power wire from the battery. The harness looks ok but only time will tell; I probably should have made one but it was there and the price was right.

Let me know on the new bulbs.
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I'll let you know and take some pictures when I install them.

When I put a tube bumper on my ranger I installed KC 100 watt lights on the bumper, and made a new harness to power them using the stock foglight wiring. Basically the plug from the original fog light wiring activated a new relay with new heavier (and shorter) wiring right from the battery, so as to not melt the stock wiring.
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When I put a tube bumper on my ranger I installed KC 100 watt lights on the bumper, and made a new harness to power them using the stock foglight wiring. Basically the plug from the original fog light wiring activated a new relay with new heavier (and shorter) wiring right from the battery, so as to not melt the stock wiring.
That's a good way to do it as long as all connections are soldered and water tight.
When I wire up my extra lights I will wire the fogs basically the same way but pull the wire back to the OEM FL relay and run all new wires from there.

The LR and DL will be all wired with a new home brew harness.

One other thing I like to do... run all of the ground wires back to a common point near the battery, then connect the common point to the battery with a heavy gauge wire to carry all of the voltage, I also use a fuse on both the positive and negative lines. (I know over kill)

I have a Light Bar made up but don't like the way it looks now that I have seen it on the truck but I am trying to get one of the guys on TRS.com to make me a front winch bumper like his, then I can mount the lights and get it done.

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My Nokya bulbs (cosmic white) showed up when I was out of town last Thursday. I installed one today, and the light output seemed to be less than the Silverstar. However it was day time and a little hard to judge, plus it seemed to get a little brighter after a few minutes. I put in the other bulb and it was significantly brighter. I though that was a little weird... I turned on the brights and one light pattern moved up, the other moved down. Turns out the idiots wired one of the bulbs backwards, and the connector on the back was loose and fell off.
I emailed the seller on ebay and I'm waiting for a response. No problems with the 2500k nokya fog lights bulbs I have on the other hand.
I'll respond again if/when I get replacements, grr.
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