Shady.
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Shady.
hmm this seems to shady heres the link to this socalled programer.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/22-HO...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERFO...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/22-HO...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERFO...QQcmdZViewItem
Last edited by mx2007; Nov 6, 2007 at 05:35 PM.
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Ebay is shady business, I would say anything that looks like the guy will sell it for dirt cheap is something that he doesn't even own and just took either photos of an item that wasn't his or copy and pasted from another website or auction.
Take for example: I was going to buy a 2005 Bass Tracker Pro Team 175 powered with a 2005 50hp Mercury off of ebay last week. (Idk if you guys know anything about boats, but I figured I'de give you some details).
I had e-mailed the guy a few days before the auction ended and low balled him, because at the time there was zero bids on the item, so I figured he'd be willing to cut it lose. So I didn't hear back from the guy until the auction ended. (The auction ended at $6,700 **the auction started at $5,200**
The were only two bidders). So he e-mails me to tell me that the high bidder backed out and asked if I was still interested so I offered him $5,500 free shipping, my best guess was the shipping would cost at least $500.
So he e-mails me back and tells me he will accept my offer.
I wait a few days and tell him that I can only arrange $5,000 and that would still include free shipping. He complies with me, and give me some bank address to wire him the money. I wait a day or two later just to check on this auction to see if he was legit and sure enough the high bidder on the boat left feedback saying that it was a scam and that the seller does not even own the boat! So I wrote the "seller" a nice little e-mail telling him off!
The boat was worth about $10k or so. I was trying to buy it to flip the boat and make a couple thousand dollars next spring when I could get a quick sale.
So I learned a valuable lesson, double check and then recheck on ebay sellers and make sure they are 100% legit.
Take for example: I was going to buy a 2005 Bass Tracker Pro Team 175 powered with a 2005 50hp Mercury off of ebay last week. (Idk if you guys know anything about boats, but I figured I'de give you some details).
I had e-mailed the guy a few days before the auction ended and low balled him, because at the time there was zero bids on the item, so I figured he'd be willing to cut it lose. So I didn't hear back from the guy until the auction ended. (The auction ended at $6,700 **the auction started at $5,200**
The were only two bidders). So he e-mails me to tell me that the high bidder backed out and asked if I was still interested so I offered him $5,500 free shipping, my best guess was the shipping would cost at least $500.
So he e-mails me back and tells me he will accept my offer.
I wait a few days and tell him that I can only arrange $5,000 and that would still include free shipping. He complies with me, and give me some bank address to wire him the money. I wait a day or two later just to check on this auction to see if he was legit and sure enough the high bidder on the boat left feedback saying that it was a scam and that the seller does not even own the boat! So I wrote the "seller" a nice little e-mail telling him off!
The boat was worth about $10k or so. I was trying to buy it to flip the boat and make a couple thousand dollars next spring when I could get a quick sale.
So I learned a valuable lesson, double check and then recheck on ebay sellers and make sure they are 100% legit.
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In the real world, nobody buys 10-30 extra HP for a 5 bucks.
The "PERFORMANCE SPEED CHIP" is a fraud that's been around for many years. It's really just a half-assed attempt to fool the PCM into dumping more fuel into the cylinders in order to try and get around the limitations posed by "ideal" stoichiometric ratio(s). The underlying premise of the so-called "chip" is that, the colder the incoming air, the more the PCM will try and increase fuel requirements to compensate, and more fuel is always a good thing. Or at least that's the theory.
But even the premise itself is faulty, inasmuch as the "chip" does nothing to affect or increase air flow and volume. What good is more fuel if there isn't any more air to mix in and burn with it? Instead of making more power, you end up with an overly-rich a/f mixture (at least initially) which degrades gas mileage and increases hydrocarbons and other emissions.
Moreover, what about the 02 sensors? It's not as if they will simply ignore all the extra fuel being dumped without reporting back to the PCM that the a/f mixture is too rich. In which case the PCM will determine that less fuel needs to be squirted into the cylinders, and so fuel injector pulse widths will be shortened accordingly (which of course essentially defeats the whole purpose of the "chip" in the first place).
The "PERFORMANCE SPEED CHIP" is a fraud that's been around for many years. It's really just a half-assed attempt to fool the PCM into dumping more fuel into the cylinders in order to try and get around the limitations posed by "ideal" stoichiometric ratio(s). The underlying premise of the so-called "chip" is that, the colder the incoming air, the more the PCM will try and increase fuel requirements to compensate, and more fuel is always a good thing. Or at least that's the theory.
But even the premise itself is faulty, inasmuch as the "chip" does nothing to affect or increase air flow and volume. What good is more fuel if there isn't any more air to mix in and burn with it? Instead of making more power, you end up with an overly-rich a/f mixture (at least initially) which degrades gas mileage and increases hydrocarbons and other emissions.
Moreover, what about the 02 sensors? It's not as if they will simply ignore all the extra fuel being dumped without reporting back to the PCM that the a/f mixture is too rich. In which case the PCM will determine that less fuel needs to be squirted into the cylinders, and so fuel injector pulse widths will be shortened accordingly (which of course essentially defeats the whole purpose of the "chip" in the first place).
Originally Posted by KGRangerLuvr
Ebay is shady business, I would say anything that looks like the guy will sell it for dirt cheap is something that he doesn't even own and just took either photos of an item that wasn't his or copy and pasted from another website or auction.
Take for example: I was going to buy a 2005 Bass Tracker Pro Team 175 powered with a 2005 50hp Mercury off of ebay last week. (Idk if you guys know anything about boats, but I figured I'de give you some details).
I had e-mailed the guy a few days before the auction ended and low balled him, because at the time there was zero bids on the item, so I figured he'd be willing to cut it lose. So I didn't hear back from the guy until the auction ended. (The auction ended at $6,700 **the auction started at $5,200**
The were only two bidders). So he e-mails me to tell me that the high bidder backed out and asked if I was still interested so I offered him $5,500 free shipping, my best guess was the shipping would cost at least $500.
So he e-mails me back and tells me he will accept my offer.
I wait a few days and tell him that I can only arrange $5,000 and that would still include free shipping. He complies with me, and give me some bank address to wire him the money. I wait a day or two later just to check on this auction to see if he was legit and sure enough the high bidder on the boat left feedback saying that it was a scam and that the seller does not even own the boat! So I wrote the "seller" a nice little e-mail telling him off!
The boat was worth about $10k or so. I was trying to buy it to flip the boat and make a couple thousand dollars next spring when I could get a quick sale.
So I learned a valuable lesson, double check and then recheck on ebay sellers and make sure they are 100% legit.
Take for example: I was going to buy a 2005 Bass Tracker Pro Team 175 powered with a 2005 50hp Mercury off of ebay last week. (Idk if you guys know anything about boats, but I figured I'de give you some details).
I had e-mailed the guy a few days before the auction ended and low balled him, because at the time there was zero bids on the item, so I figured he'd be willing to cut it lose. So I didn't hear back from the guy until the auction ended. (The auction ended at $6,700 **the auction started at $5,200**
The were only two bidders). So he e-mails me to tell me that the high bidder backed out and asked if I was still interested so I offered him $5,500 free shipping, my best guess was the shipping would cost at least $500.
So he e-mails me back and tells me he will accept my offer.
I wait a few days and tell him that I can only arrange $5,000 and that would still include free shipping. He complies with me, and give me some bank address to wire him the money. I wait a day or two later just to check on this auction to see if he was legit and sure enough the high bidder on the boat left feedback saying that it was a scam and that the seller does not even own the boat! So I wrote the "seller" a nice little e-mail telling him off!
The boat was worth about $10k or so. I was trying to buy it to flip the boat and make a couple thousand dollars next spring when I could get a quick sale.
So I learned a valuable lesson, double check and then recheck on ebay sellers and make sure they are 100% legit.
