so i'm 2 weeks into my ownership, take it to the service department and.... - Ranger-Forums - The Ultimate Ford Ranger Resource


General Technical & Electrical General technical and electrical discussion for the Ford Ranger that does not fit in any other sub-forum.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 09-30-2009
--weezl--'s Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary AB, Canada
Posts: 3,139
so i'm 2 weeks into my ownership, take it to the service department and....

so i take it in, it's been 2 weeks, when i bought it, i had a 1 year powertrain warranty, and a 1 year 20 000km clutch warranty. i've made a list of things that are bothering me about the truck,

when driving in 3rd gear, the shifter shakes around, almost like a broken tooth in the transmission or something

there is an intermittent misfire when cruizing at hiway speeds, and it has a rough idle sometimes, while sitting at 1200rpm

clutch pedal has a squeek, that i can feel in the pedal, AND the brake pedal, about an inch off the floor

the clutch has a different squeek which i'll just flat out tell you i'm 99% sure is the slave cylinder

there is a vibration in the back end of the truck when going down the hiway at a fast speed (90mphish)

and the drivers door weather seal isn't good, i hear wind noise

here's what they told me, 3rd gear they would look at, but it would be hard to figure out because it is probably inside the transmission

intermittent mis and rough idle would be hard to figure out because the check engine light has not come on, and that it probably wouldn't be covered by the powertrain warranty

neither of the squeeks in the clutch would be covered by the PT warranty (this is when i mentioned my clutch warranty) and he said he would need to check with a manager first

vibration they would not look at, as their drivers will not go above the speed limit at all...

door they would look at if they have time, but wouldn't be covered by any warranty


is it just me, or should my truck have a 30day bumper to bumper or something like that?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-30-2009
Tys 4x4 FTW's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 6,575
yeah it definitely should. how many miles does the truck have on it?

thats BS. ive been looking at a lot of cars lately, some at smaller dealerships with higher miles, and they even guarantee EVERYTHING for 30 days. you definitely need to call them out on their **** IMO. but maybe thats just me.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-30-2009
j99ranger4x4's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Delaware, OH
Posts: 1,381
agreed, thats how dealers make tons of money because people who dont know any better or are scared to speak up go in there with a problem.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-30-2009
brianjwilson's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Posts: 3,650
Usually any warranty (especially aftermarket) covers failure of a component.
Squeaks and rattles are part of buying a used car, and you should have checked it out better before buying it.
You have a shake at 90mph? It's a truck with LT tires that probably aren't rated for that speed anyway. It is probably just a balance issue with the tires. Rotate them and see if it changes.
The rough idle and misfire should be checked out, but what can they do if it isn't throwing any codes? Randomly start replacing things?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-30-2009
--weezl--'s Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary AB, Canada
Posts: 3,139
yeah, i figure i'll have a conversation with a manager on the sales floor, not in his office, so other customers can hear what the problem is... i am pretty sure that almost all of the dealerships in my area do the 30 day bumper to bumper waranty, except this one it looks like...

Quote:
Originally Posted by brianjwilson View Post
Usually any warranty (especially aftermarket) covers failure of a component.
Squeaks and rattles are part of buying a used car, and you should have checked it out better before buying it.
You have a shake at 90mph? It's a truck with LT tires that probably aren't rated for that speed anyway. It is probably just a balance issue with the tires. Rotate them and see if it changes.
The rough idle and misfire should be checked out, but what can they do if it isn't throwing any codes? Randomly start replacing things?
i don't know, fix it, that's why they get paid 40$ an hour, and why shop time at the dealership is worth 100$ an hour...

the truck has 63,000 km on it now, which is about 40 000 miles
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-30-2009
Roach2004's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 8,320
These trucks suck A$$ switch whatever you can with aftermarket stuff not motorcrap.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-30-2009
graniteguy's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,221
could the 90mph shake be a result of the rev limiter kicking in?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-30-2009
brianjwilson's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Posts: 3,650
Quote:
Originally Posted by --weezl-- View Post

i don't know, fix it, that's why they get paid 40$ an hour, and why shop time at the dealership is worth 100$ an hour...

the truck has 63,000 km on it now, which is about 40 000 miles
I feel your frustration, we have all had intermittent problems that mysteriously don't happen when the dealer looks at it. It sucks. But honestly unless it happens when they have it, there isn't much they can do other than start replacing parts. If there is no CEL, they can't even be sure that it is a misfire.
Maybe you need to work on maintenance items like fuel filter, air filter, check the plugs/wires, etc. If they don't offer a warranty, it is your problem. This is part of buying a used car man. Try talking to the manager and see if they will help, just be nice about it because he doesn't have to do anything about it from what I am hearing.

And yes there is a speed limiter usually around 90mph.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-30-2009
HarryTasker's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,491
weezl, you should open your owners manual and check the warranty informationt here, you should have a ford 5 year 60,000 mile power train warranty already. if the service guy tell s you again that it isn't covered tell the finance guy you want to cancel your extended warranty, you will get money back, and take your truck to another dealership.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-30-2009
Red_Ak_Ranger's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 17,221
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryTasker View Post
weezl, you should open your owners manual and check the warranty informationt here, you should have a ford 5 year 60,000 mile power train warranty already. if the service guy tell s you again that it isn't covered tell the finance guy you want to cancel your extended warranty, you will get money back, and take your truck to another dealership.

I'm pretty sure its a used truck
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-30-2009
--weezl--'s Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary AB, Canada
Posts: 3,139
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Ak_Ranger View Post
I'm pretty sure its a used truck
yes it is a used truck, no there is no extended warranty, and no the vibration at 90mph isn't the speed governor, that kicks in about 10 km/h after and has a completely different feel to it, this feels like an unbalanced drive shaft, i was driving another one that had a shot u-joint and it felt the same, but more severe, they told me they would check the tires... it's been in there 6.5 hours now, and i still have not heard back from them...
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-30-2009
HarryTasker's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Ak_Ranger View Post
I'm pretty sure its a used truck
So, fords factory warranties are on the vehicle not the owner.

Did you check the manual to confirm the absense of a warranty?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-30-2009
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Okeechobee,FL / Singapore
Posts: 563
wind noise.... lol..... good luck on that one...
Bought my truck with 27 miles that I put on it during the test drive and mentioned the wind noise when I went in to do the paperwork..... I saw a few people looking at the door trying to fix it, had to keep the laugh to myself.... i had heard from other owners about it and I wanted to see if the dealership knew anything about the noise.... The seal wouldn't stay in the top corner of the door from day 1.... never lets water in but the wind noise is still there... Don't really care at this point its been 121,000 miles and 6 years..... Good luck though.....
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-30-2009
Machine090767's Avatar
RF Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 6,410
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryTasker View Post
So, fords factory warranties are on the vehicle not the owner.

Did you check the manual to confirm the absense of a warranty?
correct. if you purchase a new ford and sell it before the warranty expires, the warranty is void when the new owner buys your truck.

always read the fine print when getting a warranty (especially one with a used truck)
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-30-2009
Tys 4x4 FTW's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 6,575
i dont get any wind noise on my ranger.. lol

but good luck with the stealership. i avoid them at all costs.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-30-2009
Toreador4x4's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Livonia, MI
Posts: 3,958
they can definately diag the motor without a check engine light, they can do power balance tests, relative compression tests, injector flow tests and read all the outputs from the CKP, CMP etc etc.

secondly, not ALL techs make $40/hour, most dont make $40/hour. there is no tech at my dealership that makes $40, i make $8/hour and ill spend more time doing diag then they will. If they want to find th epeoblem, they most likely will. i think they are more likely to find it ona cash job, because a cash job pays alot more diag time than a warranty job.

please let me know what they find with the shifter as my truck does it too.

thats BS that they dont speed in customer cars, a new mustang came back and said he had a driveshaft vibration, so we took it on M5 about 120 to verify this, same with a Ford GT i was working on, you gotta do what you gotta do lol
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-30-2009
Rolldogg's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 3,424
My 01 has wind noise and the shifter rattles in 3rd as well.

Welcome to owning a Ranger.......common issues. The 3rd gear rattle isn't bad, it just does it. You can get tar adhesive strips for weather stripping. You simply put it behind the weatherstripping causing it to stick out farther, filling in the voids. Simple fix.

Good luck with the dealership though.........
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-30-2009
--weezl--'s Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary AB, Canada
Posts: 3,139
ok so it was there for 7 1/2 hours, what did they find? they couldn't get it to misfire or have a rough idle, and the transmission guy was too busy to look at it... that took them 7 1/2 hours...

the clutch i had to argue with the manager to even look at it... he finally agreed to say he would get the mechanic to look at it, if he says it's fine, just noisy, then i deal with it, and if he says it's ****ed, they will replace it, the clutch is inhouse and out of their pocket, so they don't want to deal with it at all
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-30-2009
brianjwilson's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Posts: 3,650
How does it squeak? Does it have a high pitched squeal when you let it out in first gear? If so it is common and not hurting anything. It is just annoying.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-30-2009
--weezl--'s Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary AB, Canada
Posts: 3,139
no, it's almost like a farting noise, when you push it in and pull it out, it's identical to when my dad's slave went in his f-150 and my buddy's ranger
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 09-30-2009
93mk8's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: ap mi
Posts: 105
Like Justin said.. Most techs hate warranty ****. Especially pita warranty customers. If your a pita cash customer they're more likely to do more in depth diagnosis. With warranty diag, even if they do verify it, they find it a pain to do all that diag for the **** hours warranty pays... Depending on the dealer I'd bet once that thing is out of it's warranty they will verify most if not all of your concerns. Just how it is unless you know people.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-30-2009
HarryTasker's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Machine090767 View Post
correct. if you purchase a new ford and sell it before the warranty expires, the warranty is void when the new owner buys your truck.

always read the fine print when getting a warranty (especially one with a used truck)
No that is not correct, ford warranites the vehicle, not the owner. a 3 year 36 is still in effect if the vehicle is bought and sold 5 times in those years or miles, same witht he power train.

At least this is the case in the USA.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-30-2009
BLK02's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BC
Posts: 1,350
Quote:
Originally Posted by --weezl-- View Post
no, it's almost like a farting noise, when you push it in and pull it out


Im sorry, I just HAD to quote this
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-30-2009
Fx4wannabe01's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (23)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Boring, Oregon
Posts: 21,721
squeek from inside the cab = master cyl.

windnoise....deal with it. Marie's 08 has it and the truck only has 20k on it or so.

rattle you hear is likely normal....boots on fx4's dont do a good job of sound deadening.

vibration....tire balance, drivetrain wear?


fwiw, i bought mine with a 20k drivetrain warranty...come to find out it only covers internally lubricated parts. They wouldnt touch my timing chain noises.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-30-2009
BLK02's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BC
Posts: 1,350
anyway.. every ranger ive been in has had bad wind noise whether it was old or brand new.. its a cheap vehicle that also happens to be a truck, they make noises.. i didnt want to hear that at first either but ive learned to accept it and I'm on my 3rd ranger so it cant be THAT bad.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
redundant department of redundency department --weezl-- Wheels & Tires Semi-Tech 10 04-03-2010 02:08 AM
fire department/rangers DillonT General Ford Ranger Discussion 22 06-01-2008 09:46 PM
Just went to the local Ford Dealer Parts/Service Department bryanjints General Ford Ranger Discussion 23 09-06-2007 03:24 PM
Fun with the service department ... V8 Level II Ranger Products, Company, & Member Reviews 24 12-29-2005 10:40 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:42 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.