whats goin on - Ranger-Forums - The Ultimate Ford Ranger Resource


Member Introductions New to Ranger-Forums.com? Please take a moment and introduce yourself.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 02-02-2010
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Norfolk, VA/Reidsville,GA
Posts: 38
whats goin on

i just joined joined i have a 2004 ranger fx4 xlt 4.0 with a 2.5" leveling kit ( torsion keys ) that only made the front to high whats the best safest and possibly cheapest way to level the rear with the front and im trying to figure out how to convert my hubs to locking hubs?? sorry to start off with so many questions.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-02-2010
whippersnapper02's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 7,415
1. Get rid of the keys ASAP. They will tear apart your ball joints
2. To get manual locking hubs you would have to switch to the older style knuckles, cvs and bearing. The live axle your truck has works just fine.

Oh and welcome.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-02-2010
KLC's Avatar
KLC KLC is offline
RF Veteran
iTrader: (29)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 13,115
Quote:
Originally Posted by striker4 View Post
i just joined joined i have a 2004 ranger fx4 xlt 4.0 with a 2.5" leveling kit ( torsion keys ) that only made the front to high whats the best safest and possibly cheapest way to level the rear with the front and im trying to figure out how to convert my hubs to locking hubs?? sorry to start off with so many questions.
I wouldn't use aftermarket torsion keys to lift the front end. You can lift the rear by adding shackles or AAL. And, I don't understand your last question. Are you wanting a locker?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-02-2010
--weezl--'s Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary AB, Canada
Posts: 3,139
if you want to level your truck, there is a bolt, facing upwards, through a hole in the guards, covering your keys, under neath each seat, tighten that, it will level your truck out... on your 04, there is no need to put new keys in... if you really want to, you can buy longer bolts (bolt mentioned above) and tighten them up, but it will make your suspension up front (ball joints, tie rod ends, cv shafts, ect, wear out faster, as for the rear, there are 3 things you can do, shackles, everyone on here, use 2.5" lowering shackles from a chevy (a chevy's shackles are upside down compared to ours, so a longer shackle will lower theirs, and will raise ours... you can do an add a leaf, or a block under the spring... a lot of people will choose to do all 3 at some point or another... and do them in that order... i would say the shackle would be the easiest, and is going to be my first choice when i need to lift the back end
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-02-2010
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Norfolk, VA/Reidsville,GA
Posts: 38
im talking about the old style manuel locking hubs that would be located in the center of your front wheels and what exactly is AAL
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-02-2010
whippersnapper02's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 7,415
Quote:
Originally Posted by striker4 View Post
im talking about the old style manuel locking hubs that would be located in the center of your front wheels
Again you would have to switch to the older style unit bearings, steering knuckles and CVs. Not worth it in my book just to have a weaker manual locking hub.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-02-2010
KLC's Avatar
KLC KLC is offline
RF Veteran
iTrader: (29)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 13,115
Quote:
Originally Posted by striker4 View Post
im talking about the old style manuel locking hubs that would be located in the center of your front wheels and what exactly is AAL
Okay, I see.

AAL stands for Add a Leaf. You add another leaf to the leaf spring pack, which gains height.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-02-2010
--weezl--'s Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary AB, Canada
Posts: 3,139
mr snapper there is the first person i have heard say that they think the warn hubs are weaker than stock, although it is a lot of work to change them... just wait till the stock hubs blow up, then put the locking ones on...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-02-2010
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Norfolk, VA/Reidsville,GA
Posts: 38
what i would like to do to the truck is lift it w/out a suspension kit i just dont have the money and it seems there are plenty of ways to raise the rear because i do want the truck higher than stock but without touching the torsion bars and if i were to put the stock torsion keys back how would i make the front level with the back after raising the rear any where from 1.5"- 2.5"?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-02-2010
KLC's Avatar
KLC KLC is offline
RF Veteran
iTrader: (29)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 13,115
Quote:
Originally Posted by --weezl-- View Post
mr snapper there is the first person i have heard say that they think the warn hubs are weaker than stock, although it is a lot of work to change them... just wait till the stock hubs blow up, then put the locking ones on...
What? He has a live axle, which means no hubs.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-02-2010
--weezl--'s Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary AB, Canada
Posts: 3,139
ok, like i said, there is a bolt under the seats, tighten it

body lifts come, readily available, in up to 3 inches, larger can be gotten i believe, but i haven't seen them... i have seen 3" for as cheap as 168$
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-02-2010
steveo1271's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: lexington,sc
Posts: 780
get a 3in body lift
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-02-2010
KLC's Avatar
KLC KLC is offline
RF Veteran
iTrader: (29)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 13,115
Quote:
Originally Posted by striker4 View Post
what i would like to do to the truck is lift it w/out a suspension kit i just dont have the money and it seems there are plenty of ways to raise the rear because i do want the truck higher than stock but without touching the torsion bars and if i were to put the stock torsion keys back how would i make the front level with the back after raising the rear any where from 1.5"- 2.5"?
Short of a suspension lift, your only option is to mess with the torsion bar preload. Although aftermarket torsion keys isn't the way to do it. Just put the stock keys back in and crank the torsion bars.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-02-2010
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Norfolk, VA/Reidsville,GA
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by --weezl-- View Post
ok, like i said, there is a bolt under the seats, tighten it

body lifts come, readily available, in up to 3 inches, larger can be gotten i believe, but i haven't seen them... i have seen 3" for as cheap as 168$
i heard body lifts were not good for a vehicle and the bolts that you speak of would that not have anything to do with the torsion bars and in doing that if i were to get the shackles would my rear be higher lower or pref. level after tightening these bolts
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-02-2010
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Norfolk, VA/Reidsville,GA
Posts: 38
ok cool thx for the info
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-02-2010
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Norfolk, VA/Reidsville,GA
Posts: 38
oh one more thing the chevy shackles wnat type of vehicle are they for so ill know what to ask for
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-02-2010
whippersnapper02's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 7,415
Quote:
Originally Posted by --weezl-- View Post
mr snapper there is the first person i have heard say that they think the warn hubs are weaker than stock, although it is a lot of work to change them... just wait till the stock hubs blow up, then put the locking ones on...
You can't get Warn hubs for the pulse vacuum hub setup which is what he would have to swap to. He would be stuck with AVM hubs which are weak. People brake them all the time and also the CV itself is held on by a plastic clip instead of a CV nut like the live axle trucks. Finally live axle trucks like yours don't have hubs at all. I know what I'm talking about dude. I don't just pull this out of my @ss.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-02-2010
KLC's Avatar
KLC KLC is offline
RF Veteran
iTrader: (29)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 13,115
Quote:
Originally Posted by striker4 View Post
i heard body lifts were not good for a vehicle and the bolts that you speak of would that not have anything to do with the torsion bars and in doing that if i were to get the shackles would my rear be higher lower or pref. level after tightening these bolts
Personally, I don't care for body lifts, but many like them. It's really a matter of personal preference.

Yes, tightening the adjustment bolts affect the torsion bars. You could set the shackles on the middle setting to net 1.5" of lift. You should be able to get 1" to 1.5" in the front. So it should be fairly level.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-02-2010
KLC's Avatar
KLC KLC is offline
RF Veteran
iTrader: (29)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 13,115
Quote:
Originally Posted by striker4 View Post
oh one more thing the chevy shackles wnat type of vehicle are they for so ill know what to ask for
Search for Belltech 6400. I got mine from Amazon.com.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-02-2010
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Norfolk, VA/Reidsville,GA
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by whippersnapper02 View Post
You can't get Warn hubs for the pulse vacuum hub setup which is what he would have to swap to. He would be stuck with AVM hubs which are weak. People brake them all the time and also the CV itself is held on by a plastic clip instead of a CV nut like the live axle trucks. Finally live axle trucks like yours don't have hubs at all. I know what I'm talking about dude. I don't just pull this out of my @ss.
yeah i dont dont usually pull stuff out of my @ss either sorta painful
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 02-02-2010
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Norfolk, VA/Reidsville,GA
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by KLC View Post
Search for Belltech 6400. I got mine from Amazon.com.
cool just looked em up and found them thanks how long yall reckon it would take for the torsion keys to wear out my ball joints i have had them in now nearly 6 months
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 02-02-2010
whippersnapper02's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 7,415
Quote:
Originally Posted by striker4 View Post
yeah i dont dont usually pull stuff out of my @ss either sorta painful
LOL. Some of these guys think just cuz I dumped the Ranger for a Taco that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-02-2010
KLC's Avatar
KLC KLC is offline
RF Veteran
iTrader: (29)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 13,115
Quote:
Originally Posted by striker4 View Post
cool just looked em up and found them thanks how long yall reckon it would take for the torsion keys to wear out my ball joints i have had them in now nearly 6 months
It depends upon a lot of factors, but I have heard as little as one year.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 02-02-2010
--weezl--'s Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary AB, Canada
Posts: 3,139
Quote:
Originally Posted by whippersnapper02 View Post
You can't get Warn hubs for the pulse vacuum hub setup which is what he would have to swap to. He would be stuck with AVM hubs which are weak. People brake them all the time and also the CV itself is held on by a plastic clip instead of a CV nut like the live axle trucks. Finally live axle trucks like yours don't have hubs at all. I know what I'm talking about dude. I don't just pull this out of my @ss.
seeing as he said locking hubs, the most logical choice would be warn... as you said your self, he would have to change the spindles...
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 02-02-2010
--weezl--'s Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary AB, Canada
Posts: 3,139
Quote:
Originally Posted by whippersnapper02 View Post
LOL. Some of these guys think just cuz I dumped the Ranger for a Taco that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
trust me, it has nothing to do with you getting the taco that makes me think you have no idea what you are talking about
Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
This is a very detailed description of whats goin on...a miss-fire!!! sam0330 2.9L & 3.0L V6 Tech 4 12-21-2009 04:31 PM
Whats goin on guys Ford04Ranger4.0 Member Introductions 22 12-21-2008 12:56 AM
whats goin on everyone, opinions please! quicksilver2001 General Ford Ranger Discussion 20 01-16-2008 06:18 AM
what the hells goin on? Ushkie General Technical & Electrical 7 05-27-2007 05:08 PM
goin up or down.... TippnOver New Ideas 50 02-24-2005 06:36 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:35 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.