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2x4 Ranger to a 4x4

I have a question for anyone that knows this answer. I have a 1994 Ford Ranger XLT 2x4, and one of my buddys found me the same truck but it is 4x4 but it is not extended cab, same year and everything. The 4wd truck was in an accident and the frame is badly bent so I cant fix the frame but everything else is ok. And I was wondering if the front end would bolt onto my 2wd truck and the transfer case and all the 4wd excesseries? Or would I have to make new holes for everything?

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well. from what i know about turning a 2wd truck into a 4wd.......might as well just buy a 4x4 truck. too much money. too much time. and your truck is gonna be in a shop for a lonnngg time
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Not so. In the process. You can't buy a newer truck with a solid axle for instance.

Furthermore, if you do it right it's a lot cheaper than losing money buying another truck.

And I'm not the only one who's done it. But you better be sure you're up for it.

I SAS'd mine and it's a lot of work -- but worth it.

But a direct answer to the specific question: NO. It won't bolt up without welding on new brackets. 4x2 XLT's and 4x4's use different front mounting brackets and steering components.
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its a lot harder to do on the old TTB trucks than on the newer IFS trucks... if you are serious about going 4x4 then you should save his tranny and transfer case and SAS your truck with those
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^ i don't see how it would be harder, all you would have to do it change the drop brackets and a few other parts.

if the truck has the same motor you could swap the 4wd trans for yours, but as someone else posted, it would be a lot of work.
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^ i don't see how it would be harder, all you would have to do it change the drop brackets and a few other parts.

if the truck has the same motor you could swap the 4wd trans for yours, but as someone else posted, it would be a lot of work.
No.....the TTB and TIB trucks have different engine cross members......you would have to swap out that whole cross member.....

The easiest way and cheapest way for you to have 4wd is to do a SAS (solid axle swap)......since you already have the coil buckets and steering box it wouldn't be all that expensive or hard......
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its a lot harder to do on the old TTB trucks than on the newer IFS trucks... if you are serious about going 4x4 then you should save his tranny and transfer case and SAS your truck with those
A SAS is actually a lot easier on the TTB or TIB trucks because of the 2 hardest parts to mount/aquire is already on the truck from the factory (steering box and coil buckets)
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Alright I dont want to sound stupid or anything but i have no idea what TTB trucks and IFS trucks are sorry. But I have the time, but would it be worth it, and the time? I just want to really know if its worth it? Because you guys def. know what your talking about.
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IFS- independent front suspenstion
TTB- twin traction? Beams
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Alright I dont want to sound stupid or anything but i have no idea what TTB trucks and IFS trucks are sorry. But I have the time, but would it be worth it, and the time? I just want to really know if its worth it? Because you guys def. know what your talking about.
TTB = Twin Traction Beam ('97 and older 4wd Rangers front suspension)
TIB = Twin I Beam ('97and older 2wd Rangers front suspension)

Both are a form of IFS (Independant Front Suspension) as are the newer Rangers.....

The only way to make your truck 4wd and it be worth your time, effort, or money would be to do a SAS (Solid Axle Swap).....if you don't do a SAS you will have to cut out the front crossmember of your truck and replace it with the front cross member off the donor truck......a SAS is by far the easiest, fastest, and cheapest way to do it
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So your trying to turn a 2x4 in to a 4x4 ranger. Good luck with that.
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So your trying to turn a 2x4 in to a 4x4 ranger. Good luck with that.
its been done before, do some research.
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i didnt know ford came out with a 2x4. i always thought that was lumber, you learn something everyday :)

haha
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its been done before, do some research.
i think that was a joke.......2x4 = lumber.....
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Ha Maurice got it lol.
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So to do a SAS what would I need to do?
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Mabey some of the SAS guys will chime in but I can tell you that you need a good welder,parts,and most important the knowledge to make it all work. Its not a weekend job.
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with the '97 or older Rangers i bet you could do it in a weekend.....they already have the coil buckets and steering box mounted....

the only welding you will need is for the radius arm mounts, trac bar, and tie rods........
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A buddy of mine has a locker on his 2wd.... almost like having 4wd but not quite... try that
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a locker still wont allow a 2wd Ranger to do things a 4wd Ranger can, no matter how good of a driver you are.......
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i think that was a joke.......2x4 = lumber.....
oh haha, i get it now.

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a locker still wont allow a 2wd Ranger to do things a 4wd Ranger can, no matter how good of a driver you are.......
tis true, even tho the locker does help a lot.
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Im in the same process right now changing my 4x2 truck into 4x4. I have 05 3.0 auto right now. I just bought a D44 81' wagoneer full high steer with same gears 4.88 and lockright. Im doing a leaf spring front may even do springs later but i have the leafs so ill run those for now. I literally have almost everything from the donor to bolt and weld on I just need a tranny swap and transfer case. Im talking to N3lz (i think it is) that has done the actual SAS to his 02 edge.
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i bought a bunch of 2x4's at home depot yesterday haha j/k
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you nail 2 2x4s together to get a 4x4
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you nail 2 2x4s together to get a 4x4
wouldn't that be a 4x8?
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